Orpington disabled mother-of-four's New Year's ruined after ceiling collapse causes two-week leak

News Shopper: Tina Harman with her kids Chloe, 13, Callum, six, and Codi, four, in the front room. Tina Harman with her kids Chloe, 13, Callum, six, and Codi, four, in the front room.

A DISABLED mother-of-four says her New Year's was ruined after her ceiling fell in, causing a leak that wrecked her carpet and sofas.

To add insult to injury Tina Harman's housing association, Affinity Sutton, has refused to help her replace the damaged items.

Miss Harman lives in Quilter Road, Orpington, with her children Chloe, 13, Connor, seven, Callum, six and four-year-old Codi.

The 37-year-old suffered a mini stoke four years ago, and as a result doesn't have full use of her left leg.

She moved into the property on December 16, before taking her children to stay with her parents over Christmas.

The family returned to find the ceiling in the front room had fallen in, while water was leaking into the flat.

News Shopper:

She told News Shopper: "I came back on the December 28 to find the ceiling of my front room on the floor.

"There was water leaking into the flat. The carpet and my sofas were absolutely soaked.

"I'd been told the house was safe to live in but it doesn't bear thinking about if we had been there."

Miss Harman immediately contacted Affinity Sutton, who sent someone around later that day.

They took the rest of the ceiling down to secure the room and left, without fixing the leak.

Miss Harman added: "I rang them every day after that to ask someone to come and sort it out but no one came.

"They kept saying put buckets down but it wasn't that kind of leak.

"Water was leaking the whole length of my front room.

"My furniture has been ruined and Affinity Sutton have told me they won't even help me replace it."

Water continued to leak into Ms Harman's front room until January 7, nearly two weeks later.

News Shopper:

An Affinity Sutton spokeswoman said: "We sympathise with Ms Harman, whose ceiling was damaged as a result of theft of lead flashing across the lower roof of her property, and appreciate the inconvenience this will have caused.

"The Christmas period was our busiest on record in terms of out of hours call outs because of the severe weather conditions and we attended many similar water leak emergencies.

"We have rectified the missing flashing to prevent further damage and have placed a dehumidifier in Ms Harman’s property to assist with the drying out process.

"We will now work swiftly to ensure the ceiling is reinstated as soon as possible.

"The theft has been reported to the police and we hope that they are able to arrest the perpetrator to prevent this from happening to other residents in the area."

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6:08pm Wed 15 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

Where are the fathers? why aren't the fathers helping?????????????
????

This getting beyond the joke. WHERE ARE THE MALES??????????

Affinity Sutton, PROFIT MARGINS GOING TO BE HIT AGAIN ARE THEY?

DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!
Where are the fathers? why aren't the fathers helping????????????? ???? This getting beyond the joke. WHERE ARE THE MALES?????????? Affinity Sutton, PROFIT MARGINS GOING TO BE HIT AGAIN ARE THEY? DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! white rabbit9
  • Score: 3

6:18pm Wed 15 Jan 14

molsey says...

These type of stories are always about complaints by housing association or council tenants, and very rarely, if at all, about private landlords and never from a home owner. I wonder why that is?
These type of stories are always about complaints by housing association or council tenants, and very rarely, if at all, about private landlords and never from a home owner. I wonder why that is? molsey
  • Score: -5

7:18pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Virtual-Monster says...

This type of situation is exactly why household contents insurance exists.

If the landlord has not been negligent (theft of lead flashing is NOT negligence on the part of the landlord) then it is not responsible for compensating its tenants.

Just another non story which should never have been published by the NS.
This type of situation is exactly why household contents insurance exists. If the landlord has not been negligent (theft of lead flashing is NOT negligence on the part of the landlord) then it is not responsible for compensating its tenants. Just another non story which should never have been published by the NS. Virtual-Monster
  • Score: 3

7:43pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

My lips are sealed on this story. Shame someone else's weren't too.
My lips are sealed on this story. Shame someone else's weren't too. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 9

7:46pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

By the way I'm not being rude, I meant WR9


Honestly. Honest.

Well .......no HONEST.
By the way I'm not being rude, I meant WR9 Honestly. Honest. Well .......no HONEST. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -6

8:52pm Wed 15 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

People are soon going to be better off in tents
People are soon going to be better off in tents white rabbit9
  • Score: 3

9:16pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
People are soon going to be better off in tents
Or burrows. Much more convenient to gas you then when the NWO take over.

Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: People are soon going to be better off in tents[/p][/quote]Or burrows. Much more convenient to gas you then when the NWO take over. Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -8

9:29pm Wed 15 Jan 14

sarfflondonbird says...

This housing association (if you can call it that) seems to have a very bad reputation with regard to upkeep of their properties don't they? So glad they are not my landlords. What a disgusting way to treat a vulnerable disabled single parent. It doesn't matter that it's Christmas with high"out of hours"call outs. This is a bloody disaster through not fault of the new tenants making as she was not responsible for the lead theft either, yet some dick can only suggests she puts buckets under the leaks till another dick is available to botch it up. You couldn't make it up. Well I suppose Affinity could.
Again on a different note....arms folded means ready for action don't it?
This housing association (if you can call it that) seems to have a very bad reputation with regard to upkeep of their properties don't they? So glad they are not my landlords. What a disgusting way to treat a vulnerable disabled single parent. It doesn't matter that it's Christmas with high"out of hours"call outs. This is a bloody disaster through not fault of the new tenants making as she was not responsible for the lead theft either, yet some dick can only suggests she puts buckets under the leaks till another dick is available to botch it up. You couldn't make it up. Well I suppose Affinity could. Again on a different note....arms folded means ready for action don't it? sarfflondonbird
  • Score: 18

9:37pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Simon bald says...

sort the problem out yourself by saving food shopping money,you and your daughter would be happier for it.
sort the problem out yourself by saving food shopping money,you and your daughter would be happier for it. Simon bald
  • Score: -16

11:09pm Wed 15 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
People are soon going to be better off in tents
Or burrows. Much more convenient to gas you then when the NWO take over.

Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
What do you mean when? It's here already, you are just to programed to not see it. Get rid of the box!
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: People are soon going to be better off in tents[/p][/quote]Or burrows. Much more convenient to gas you then when the NWO take over. Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.[/p][/quote]What do you mean when? It's here already, you are just to programed to not see it. Get rid of the box! white rabbit9
  • Score: -15

4:46am Thu 16 Jan 14

Stop_Whining says...

Surprise surprise folks, we have someone folding their arms - love it!
Surprise surprise folks, we have someone folding their arms - love it! Stop_Whining
  • Score: 18

9:11am Thu 16 Jan 14

PaulErith says...

Sounds to me like the housing association have acted ok. They have rectified the problem but why should they pay for the furniture? Take some personal responsibility. I have contents insurance that would cover this - why hasn't she? You can't expect to get everything paid for free.
Sounds to me like the housing association have acted ok. They have rectified the problem but why should they pay for the furniture? Take some personal responsibility. I have contents insurance that would cover this - why hasn't she? You can't expect to get everything paid for free. PaulErith
  • Score: 0

9:34am Thu 16 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

Take some personal responsibility. I have contents insurance that would cover this - why hasn't she? You can't expect to get everything paid for free.

Clearly someone who doesn't take responsibility, INSURANCE IS A SCAM.
Oh no I have killed someone, I have insurance, thank god. (rolleyes)
Take some personal responsibility. I have contents insurance that would cover this - why hasn't she? You can't expect to get everything paid for free. Clearly someone who doesn't take responsibility, INSURANCE IS A SCAM. Oh no I have killed someone, I have insurance, thank god. (rolleyes) white rabbit9
  • Score: 8

12:13pm Thu 16 Jan 14

PaulErith says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Take some personal responsibility. I have contents insurance that would cover this - why hasn't she? You can't expect to get everything paid for free. Clearly someone who doesn't take responsibility, INSURANCE IS A SCAM. Oh no I have killed someone, I have insurance, thank god. (rolleyes)
Once again you show that you really don't have understanding of anything!
How exactly is insurance a scam? It is simply a way of pooling the risks of the many to give protection against accidents/unforseen circumstances. For a small premium, everyone gets piece of mind and help when, for example, their ceiling collapses and causes damage. It's totally personal choice to have buidings/contents insurance but if you choose not to, don't then moan, like this woman, that something has happened and you have to pay for new furniture.

As for killing someone, that's a much rarer scenario, and one whereby insurance does not help you at all if you've actually done something wrong. e.g.. you drive dangerously or under the influence and kill or seriously injure someone. The insurance will pay compensation to the victim, but the person that's done it doesn't think 'thank god I've got insurance'. Instead they get arrested and hopefully a jail term.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Take some personal responsibility. I have contents insurance that would cover this - why hasn't she? You can't expect to get everything paid for free. Clearly someone who doesn't take responsibility, INSURANCE IS A SCAM. Oh no I have killed someone, I have insurance, thank god. (rolleyes)[/p][/quote]Once again you show that you really don't have understanding of anything! How exactly is insurance a scam? It is simply a way of pooling the risks of the many to give protection against accidents/unforseen circumstances. For a small premium, everyone gets piece of mind and help when, for example, their ceiling collapses and causes damage. It's totally personal choice to have buidings/contents insurance but if you choose not to, don't then moan, like this woman, that something has happened and you have to pay for new furniture. As for killing someone, that's a much rarer scenario, and one whereby insurance does not help you at all if you've actually done something wrong. e.g.. you drive dangerously or under the influence and kill or seriously injure someone. The insurance will pay compensation to the victim, but the person that's done it doesn't think 'thank god I've got insurance'. Instead they get arrested and hopefully a jail term. PaulErith
  • Score: -3

12:40pm Thu 16 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

Once again you show that you really don't have understanding of anything!

look in the mirror.

The police use this one, "you have no insurance"? "what if you kill someone"?

Having insurance incase you kill someone!! Ha ha ha ha. SCAM!!

Everyone gets piece of mind

CLUELESS!

Terms and conditions. I bet they would turn around and say: This is clearly someone else's fault. This was no accident, it was sabotage.

lol

You are so normal I laugh my head off.
Once again you show that you really don't have understanding of anything! look in the mirror. The police use this one, "you have no insurance"? "what if you kill someone"? Having insurance incase you kill someone!! Ha ha ha ha. SCAM!! Everyone gets piece of mind CLUELESS! Terms and conditions. I bet they would turn around and say: This is clearly someone else's fault. This was no accident, it was sabotage. lol You are so normal I laugh my head off. white rabbit9
  • Score: -4

12:42pm Thu 16 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

The insurance will pay compensation to the victim.

And this doesn't encourage anything. I thought you said "insurance is peace of mind". Now i am worried that someone will bump me off and the misses gets the insurance. PMSL. Can't see the woods for the tree's.
The insurance will pay compensation to the victim. And this doesn't encourage anything. I thought you said "insurance is peace of mind". Now i am worried that someone will bump me off and the misses gets the insurance. PMSL. Can't see the woods for the tree's. white rabbit9
  • Score: 9

1:11pm Thu 16 Jan 14

PaulErith says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Once again you show that you really don't have understanding of anything! look in the mirror. The police use this one, "you have no insurance"? "what if you kill someone"? Having insurance incase you kill someone!! Ha ha ha ha. SCAM!! Everyone gets piece of mind CLUELESS! Terms and conditions. I bet they would turn around and say: This is clearly someone else's fault. This was no accident, it was sabotage. lol You are so normal I laugh my head off.
You are one of the most clueless people I've encountered. Why do millions and millions of people take out home insurance then? Try answering that sensibly for me!! Obviously it's because it's a vital service that gives them piece of mind. There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance?
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Once again you show that you really don't have understanding of anything! look in the mirror. The police use this one, "you have no insurance"? "what if you kill someone"? Having insurance incase you kill someone!! Ha ha ha ha. SCAM!! Everyone gets piece of mind CLUELESS! Terms and conditions. I bet they would turn around and say: This is clearly someone else's fault. This was no accident, it was sabotage. lol You are so normal I laugh my head off.[/p][/quote]You are one of the most clueless people I've encountered. Why do millions and millions of people take out home insurance then? Try answering that sensibly for me!! Obviously it's because it's a vital service that gives them piece of mind. There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance? PaulErith
  • Score: 0

1:22pm Thu 16 Jan 14

PaulErith says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
The insurance will pay compensation to the victim. And this doesn't encourage anything. I thought you said "insurance is peace of mind". Now i am worried that someone will bump me off and the misses gets the insurance. PMSL. Can't see the woods for the tree's.
Obviously if you believe that everything and everyone is against you, then you would worry that the wife would bump you off. For normal people, the fact that they have might have a large amount of life insurance to make sure that their wife and kids are able to survive, is a piece of mind!
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: The insurance will pay compensation to the victim. And this doesn't encourage anything. I thought you said "insurance is peace of mind". Now i am worried that someone will bump me off and the misses gets the insurance. PMSL. Can't see the woods for the tree's.[/p][/quote]Obviously if you believe that everything and everyone is against you, then you would worry that the wife would bump you off. For normal people, the fact that they have might have a large amount of life insurance to make sure that their wife and kids are able to survive, is a piece of mind! PaulErith
  • Score: -1

2:20pm Thu 16 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

You are one of the most clueless people I've encountered. Why do millions and millions of people take out home insurance then?

World trade centre the zionist guy took out a massive insurance policy incase anything happened to it. Oooppss 2 planes crashed into them and look they made lots of money out of it. So glad they had insurance.

It's all a scam for the rich to get richer. Make a claim on your insurance and the premiums goes up in price. SCAM SCAM SCAM. FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR.
You are one of the most clueless people I've encountered. Why do millions and millions of people take out home insurance then? World trade centre the zionist guy took out a massive insurance policy incase anything happened to it. Oooppss 2 planes crashed into them and look they made lots of money out of it. So glad they had insurance. It's all a scam for the rich to get richer. Make a claim on your insurance and the premiums goes up in price. SCAM SCAM SCAM. FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR. white rabbit9
  • Score: 5

2:30pm Thu 16 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance?

Think how much money these insurance companies make from having peace of mind? Now lets look at the thus insurance companies!

I remember when the insurance companies were in the red, their was to many claimants and the insurance company didn't have the money to pay out so it asked the government for help. I believe the government went to the banks and so the banks had to give the governments money, and where did that money come from? OUT OF THIN AIR and created more DEBT! insurance is a scam. You got to go beyond the BOXHEAD to see it, REMOVE THE BOX AND STEP AWAY FROM IT. lol
There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance? Think how much money these insurance companies make from having peace of mind? Now lets look at the thus insurance companies! I remember when the insurance companies were in the red, their was to many claimants and the insurance company didn't have the money to pay out so it asked the government for help. I believe the government went to the banks and so the banks had to give the governments money, and where did that money come from? OUT OF THIN AIR and created more DEBT! insurance is a scam. You got to go beyond the BOXHEAD to see it, REMOVE THE BOX AND STEP AWAY FROM IT. lol white rabbit9
  • Score: 7

2:51pm Thu 16 Jan 14

PaulErith says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance? Think how much money these insurance companies make from having peace of mind? Now lets look at the thus insurance companies! I remember when the insurance companies were in the red, their was to many claimants and the insurance company didn't have the money to pay out so it asked the government for help. I believe the government went to the banks and so the banks had to give the governments money, and where did that money come from? OUT OF THIN AIR and created more DEBT! insurance is a scam. You got to go beyond the BOXHEAD to see it, REMOVE THE BOX AND STEP AWAY FROM IT. lol
I tell you what, I'm now going to do (and urge others to do) what I should have done a while ago. After this, I won't be replying to any of your comments as you are clearly just a troll. You only argument is to call people names - very clever and original! You don't actually answer any questions that people ask you. i.e. why do people take out home insurance - they must think it's a good deal or they wouldn't do it - simple. More importantly, I realise that it's not possible to have a sensible debate with a loony. Seriously, I mean this nicely, go and get some help.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance? Think how much money these insurance companies make from having peace of mind? Now lets look at the thus insurance companies! I remember when the insurance companies were in the red, their was to many claimants and the insurance company didn't have the money to pay out so it asked the government for help. I believe the government went to the banks and so the banks had to give the governments money, and where did that money come from? OUT OF THIN AIR and created more DEBT! insurance is a scam. You got to go beyond the BOXHEAD to see it, REMOVE THE BOX AND STEP AWAY FROM IT. lol[/p][/quote]I tell you what, I'm now going to do (and urge others to do) what I should have done a while ago. After this, I won't be replying to any of your comments as you are clearly just a troll. You only argument is to call people names - very clever and original! You don't actually answer any questions that people ask you. i.e. why do people take out home insurance - they must think it's a good deal or they wouldn't do it - simple. More importantly, I realise that it's not possible to have a sensible debate with a loony. Seriously, I mean this nicely, go and get some help. PaulErith
  • Score: -1

3:57pm Thu 16 Jan 14

reasonable75 says...

If she had insurance she would make a claim for damage to her property - they would replace then contact the housing association for compensation

But if you don't bother with insurance......
If she had insurance she would make a claim for damage to her property - they would replace then contact the housing association for compensation But if you don't bother with insurance...... reasonable75
  • Score: 1

4:02pm Thu 16 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

You only argument is to call people names - very clever and original! You don't actually answer any questions that people ask you

what you want is the answers that you are looking for, that you are used to and can identify with. I don't bow down to NORMAL. when their are so many other dots to connect. The manipulation goes so deep that one answer is not enough because it wont encompass the huge amount of information that is available to answer the question. How can you fit 20 years of researching into a simple answer? Thanks for the input, I wont find it offensive in any way you ignoring me, I am still me, you are still you may you have a wonderful life as what is coming is to scary for words.
You only argument is to call people names - very clever and original! You don't actually answer any questions that people ask you what you want is the answers that you are looking for, that you are used to and can identify with. I don't bow down to NORMAL. when their are so many other dots to connect. The manipulation goes so deep that one answer is not enough because it wont encompass the huge amount of information that is available to answer the question. How can you fit 20 years of researching into a simple answer? Thanks for the input, I wont find it offensive in any way you ignoring me, I am still me, you are still you may you have a wonderful life as what is coming is to scary for words. white rabbit9
  • Score: 4

4:46pm Thu 16 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

I realise that it's not possible to have a sensible debate with a loony. Seriously, I mean this nicely, go and get some help.

This is not a debating website, this is a comments section. If you wanna debate I suggest you choose the arena.

I tell you what, I'm now going to do (and urge others to do)

I think people can think for themselves, no, true, maybe they can't.
I realise that it's not possible to have a sensible debate with a loony. Seriously, I mean this nicely, go and get some help. This is not a debating website, this is a comments section. If you wanna debate I suggest you choose the arena. I tell you what, I'm now going to do (and urge others to do) I think people can think for themselves, no, true, maybe they can't. white rabbit9
  • Score: 4

6:43pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

white rabbit9 is a cross between a lunatic and a raving lunatic. This creates a hybrid lunatic untreatable with modern medicines. There is no known cure and the only humane option is euthanasia.
white rabbit9 is a cross between a lunatic and a raving lunatic. This creates a hybrid lunatic untreatable with modern medicines. There is no known cure and the only humane option is euthanasia. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -1

9:15pm Thu 16 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
white rabbit9 is a cross between a lunatic and a raving lunatic. This creates a hybrid lunatic untreatable with modern medicines. There is no known cure and the only humane option is euthanasia.
Stick me in your box with your beliefs that will kill me very quickly.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: white rabbit9 is a cross between a lunatic and a raving lunatic. This creates a hybrid lunatic untreatable with modern medicines. There is no known cure and the only humane option is euthanasia.[/p][/quote]Stick me in your box with your beliefs that will kill me very quickly. white rabbit9
  • Score: 1

10:51pm Thu 16 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

Very confused by the above exchanges. Never mind. Insurance is equivalent to gambling. The insurance company puts money on an event not occurring. You put money on it happening. I think the main reasons the insurance companies have at times run into problems or have to increase their premiums is due to a claims culture for the tiniest issue, and the claims made falsely. They have to take in more money in premiums than they can reasonably expect to pay out. Not much consolation if you pay very low premiums and then the company goes under just as you're about to make a claim.
Very confused by the above exchanges. Never mind. Insurance is equivalent to gambling. The insurance company puts money on an event not occurring. You put money on it happening. I think the main reasons the insurance companies have at times run into problems or have to increase their premiums is due to a claims culture for the tiniest issue, and the claims made falsely. They have to take in more money in premiums than they can reasonably expect to pay out. Not much consolation if you pay very low premiums and then the company goes under just as you're about to make a claim. flea_in_ear
  • Score: 0

1:03am Fri 17 Jan 14

patwoodhouse says...

Personally I'm becoming increasingly sick of the attitude that whenever something goes wrong for a council tenant, someone else is expected to foot the bill. Why? Plenty of people confined to wheelchairs are more than capable of doing meaningful work and if this lady followed suit, she'd be able to provide for herself and her family and either save for this type of eventuality or buy insurance to protect against it. As things stand, all she's
doing is setting her children a perfect example of sponging.
Personally I'm becoming increasingly sick of the attitude that whenever something goes wrong for a council tenant, someone else is expected to foot the bill. Why? Plenty of people confined to wheelchairs are more than capable of doing meaningful work and if this lady followed suit, she'd be able to provide for herself and her family and either save for this type of eventuality or buy insurance to protect against it. As things stand, all she's doing is setting her children a perfect example of sponging. patwoodhouse
  • Score: -17

6:30am Fri 17 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Where are the fathers? why aren't the fathers helping?????????????

????

This getting beyond the joke. WHERE ARE THE MALES??????????

Affinity Sutton, PROFIT MARGINS GOING TO BE HIT AGAIN ARE THEY?

DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!
Regarding Affinity Sutton, they are supposed to be a non-profit-making organisation, but in that case one would have to assume that they are mainly manned by volunteers. Perhaps their profits or "lack of them" are at the expense of other people.....surely not.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Where are the fathers? why aren't the fathers helping????????????? ???? This getting beyond the joke. WHERE ARE THE MALES?????????? Affinity Sutton, PROFIT MARGINS GOING TO BE HIT AGAIN ARE THEY? DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!![/p][/quote]Regarding Affinity Sutton, they are supposed to be a non-profit-making organisation, but in that case one would have to assume that they are mainly manned by volunteers. Perhaps their profits or "lack of them" are at the expense of other people.....surely not. flea_in_ear
  • Score: 7

8:01am Fri 17 Jan 14

molsey says...

PaulErith wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance? Think how much money these insurance companies make from having peace of mind? Now lets look at the thus insurance companies! I remember when the insurance companies were in the red, their was to many claimants and the insurance company didn't have the money to pay out so it asked the government for help. I believe the government went to the banks and so the banks had to give the governments money, and where did that money come from? OUT OF THIN AIR and created more DEBT! insurance is a scam. You got to go beyond the BOXHEAD to see it, REMOVE THE BOX AND STEP AWAY FROM IT. lol
I tell you what, I'm now going to do (and urge others to do) what I should have done a while ago. After this, I won't be replying to any of your comments as you are clearly just a troll. You only argument is to call people names - very clever and original! You don't actually answer any questions that people ask you. i.e. why do people take out home insurance - they must think it's a good deal or they wouldn't do it - simple. More importantly, I realise that it's not possible to have a sensible debate with a loony. Seriously, I mean this nicely, go and get some help.
I agree, I too am going to stop commenting on anything WR9 writes, he is just a wind-up weirdo full of perverse views.

As an example just look at this article alone, he starts it and then every other comment involves everyone trying to put him straight, ridiculous!
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance? Think how much money these insurance companies make from having peace of mind? Now lets look at the thus insurance companies! I remember when the insurance companies were in the red, their was to many claimants and the insurance company didn't have the money to pay out so it asked the government for help. I believe the government went to the banks and so the banks had to give the governments money, and where did that money come from? OUT OF THIN AIR and created more DEBT! insurance is a scam. You got to go beyond the BOXHEAD to see it, REMOVE THE BOX AND STEP AWAY FROM IT. lol[/p][/quote]I tell you what, I'm now going to do (and urge others to do) what I should have done a while ago. After this, I won't be replying to any of your comments as you are clearly just a troll. You only argument is to call people names - very clever and original! You don't actually answer any questions that people ask you. i.e. why do people take out home insurance - they must think it's a good deal or they wouldn't do it - simple. More importantly, I realise that it's not possible to have a sensible debate with a loony. Seriously, I mean this nicely, go and get some help.[/p][/quote]I agree, I too am going to stop commenting on anything WR9 writes, he is just a wind-up weirdo full of perverse views. As an example just look at this article alone, he starts it and then every other comment involves everyone trying to put him straight, ridiculous! molsey
  • Score: -8

9:20am Fri 17 Jan 14

PaulErith says...

flea_in_ear wrote:
Very confused by the above exchanges. Never mind. Insurance is equivalent to gambling. The insurance company puts money on an event not occurring. You put money on it happening. I think the main reasons the insurance companies have at times run into problems or have to increase their premiums is due to a claims culture for the tiniest issue, and the claims made falsely. They have to take in more money in premiums than they can reasonably expect to pay out. Not much consolation if you pay very low premiums and then the company goes under just as you're about to make a claim.
Indeed, that's the best way to think about insurance. Some people take the gamble of not having it. They save a few hundred quid a year and hope that the money they save will suffice in the event of an incident. It is a gamble. If you never have a major flood or fire and don't own anything priceless that could be stolen, then you probably win. However, one serious incident could be very expensive. Personally I'd rather have the cover.

As for the claims culture, couldn't agree more. People complain that premiums rise, but it's people that want to claim for every little thing. Someone has hit their car at low speed in the rear - so it's a whiplash claim! It's a load of rubbish. No problem with genuine injuries being compensated, but the vast majority are exagerated. Same with house insurance. Too many people 'accidently' break their phone or computer to get a new one, or add a few items to a damaged list after a flood or theft. At the end of the day, it's committing a criminal offense and causes premiums to rise, but people seem to think it's acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: Very confused by the above exchanges. Never mind. Insurance is equivalent to gambling. The insurance company puts money on an event not occurring. You put money on it happening. I think the main reasons the insurance companies have at times run into problems or have to increase their premiums is due to a claims culture for the tiniest issue, and the claims made falsely. They have to take in more money in premiums than they can reasonably expect to pay out. Not much consolation if you pay very low premiums and then the company goes under just as you're about to make a claim.[/p][/quote]Indeed, that's the best way to think about insurance. Some people take the gamble of not having it. They save a few hundred quid a year and hope that the money they save will suffice in the event of an incident. It is a gamble. If you never have a major flood or fire and don't own anything priceless that could be stolen, then you probably win. However, one serious incident could be very expensive. Personally I'd rather have the cover. As for the claims culture, couldn't agree more. People complain that premiums rise, but it's people that want to claim for every little thing. Someone has hit their car at low speed in the rear - so it's a whiplash claim! It's a load of rubbish. No problem with genuine injuries being compensated, but the vast majority are exagerated. Same with house insurance. Too many people 'accidently' break their phone or computer to get a new one, or add a few items to a damaged list after a flood or theft. At the end of the day, it's committing a criminal offense and causes premiums to rise, but people seem to think it's acceptable. PaulErith
  • Score: 17

3:23pm Fri 17 Jan 14

reasonable75 says...

molsey wrote:
PaulErith wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance? Think how much money these insurance companies make from having peace of mind? Now lets look at the thus insurance companies! I remember when the insurance companies were in the red, their was to many claimants and the insurance company didn't have the money to pay out so it asked the government for help. I believe the government went to the banks and so the banks had to give the governments money, and where did that money come from? OUT OF THIN AIR and created more DEBT! insurance is a scam. You got to go beyond the BOXHEAD to see it, REMOVE THE BOX AND STEP AWAY FROM IT. lol
I tell you what, I'm now going to do (and urge others to do) what I should have done a while ago. After this, I won't be replying to any of your comments as you are clearly just a troll. You only argument is to call people names - very clever and original! You don't actually answer any questions that people ask you. i.e. why do people take out home insurance - they must think it's a good deal or they wouldn't do it - simple. More importantly, I realise that it's not possible to have a sensible debate with a loony. Seriously, I mean this nicely, go and get some help.
I agree, I too am going to stop commenting on anything WR9 writes, he is just a wind-up weirdo full of perverse views.

As an example just look at this article alone, he starts it and then every other comment involves everyone trying to put him straight, ridiculous!
And notice all his comments get a thumbs up, anyone disagreeing gets thumbs down

Strange
[quote][p][bold]molsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance? Think how much money these insurance companies make from having peace of mind? Now lets look at the thus insurance companies! I remember when the insurance companies were in the red, their was to many claimants and the insurance company didn't have the money to pay out so it asked the government for help. I believe the government went to the banks and so the banks had to give the governments money, and where did that money come from? OUT OF THIN AIR and created more DEBT! insurance is a scam. You got to go beyond the BOXHEAD to see it, REMOVE THE BOX AND STEP AWAY FROM IT. lol[/p][/quote]I tell you what, I'm now going to do (and urge others to do) what I should have done a while ago. After this, I won't be replying to any of your comments as you are clearly just a troll. You only argument is to call people names - very clever and original! You don't actually answer any questions that people ask you. i.e. why do people take out home insurance - they must think it's a good deal or they wouldn't do it - simple. More importantly, I realise that it's not possible to have a sensible debate with a loony. Seriously, I mean this nicely, go and get some help.[/p][/quote]I agree, I too am going to stop commenting on anything WR9 writes, he is just a wind-up weirdo full of perverse views. As an example just look at this article alone, he starts it and then every other comment involves everyone trying to put him straight, ridiculous![/p][/quote]And notice all his comments get a thumbs up, anyone disagreeing gets thumbs down Strange reasonable75
  • Score: -1

11:14am Sat 18 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

reasonable75 wrote:
molsey wrote:
PaulErith wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance? Think how much money these insurance companies make from having peace of mind? Now lets look at the thus insurance companies! I remember when the insurance companies were in the red, their was to many claimants and the insurance company didn't have the money to pay out so it asked the government for help. I believe the government went to the banks and so the banks had to give the governments money, and where did that money come from? OUT OF THIN AIR and created more DEBT! insurance is a scam. You got to go beyond the BOXHEAD to see it, REMOVE THE BOX AND STEP AWAY FROM IT. lol
I tell you what, I'm now going to do (and urge others to do) what I should have done a while ago. After this, I won't be replying to any of your comments as you are clearly just a troll. You only argument is to call people names - very clever and original! You don't actually answer any questions that people ask you. i.e. why do people take out home insurance - they must think it's a good deal or they wouldn't do it - simple. More importantly, I realise that it's not possible to have a sensible debate with a loony. Seriously, I mean this nicely, go and get some help.
I agree, I too am going to stop commenting on anything WR9 writes, he is just a wind-up weirdo full of perverse views.

As an example just look at this article alone, he starts it and then every other comment involves everyone trying to put him straight, ridiculous!
And notice all his comments get a thumbs up, anyone disagreeing gets thumbs down

Strange
Ever since I was accused by BOX HEAD I don't even touch the thumbs up or down. PARANOID WEIRDO'S. Wouldn't mind but if this is the reason why you are paranoid I envy you. Not that our paedophile government are killing people, no no that just doesn't happen.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=tLIzNSHDw
Ps#t=48

No it doesn't happen
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: There's no legal requirement to have it, so why does just about every property owner have insurance? Think how much money these insurance companies make from having peace of mind? Now lets look at the thus insurance companies! I remember when the insurance companies were in the red, their was to many claimants and the insurance company didn't have the money to pay out so it asked the government for help. I believe the government went to the banks and so the banks had to give the governments money, and where did that money come from? OUT OF THIN AIR and created more DEBT! insurance is a scam. You got to go beyond the BOXHEAD to see it, REMOVE THE BOX AND STEP AWAY FROM IT. lol[/p][/quote]I tell you what, I'm now going to do (and urge others to do) what I should have done a while ago. After this, I won't be replying to any of your comments as you are clearly just a troll. You only argument is to call people names - very clever and original! You don't actually answer any questions that people ask you. i.e. why do people take out home insurance - they must think it's a good deal or they wouldn't do it - simple. More importantly, I realise that it's not possible to have a sensible debate with a loony. Seriously, I mean this nicely, go and get some help.[/p][/quote]I agree, I too am going to stop commenting on anything WR9 writes, he is just a wind-up weirdo full of perverse views. As an example just look at this article alone, he starts it and then every other comment involves everyone trying to put him straight, ridiculous![/p][/quote]And notice all his comments get a thumbs up, anyone disagreeing gets thumbs down Strange[/p][/quote]Ever since I was accused by BOX HEAD I don't even touch the thumbs up or down. PARANOID WEIRDO'S. Wouldn't mind but if this is the reason why you are paranoid I envy you. Not that our paedophile government are killing people, no no that just doesn't happen. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=tLIzNSHDw Ps#t=48 No it doesn't happen white rabbit9
  • Score: 2

11:43am Sat 18 Jan 14

Marty1979 says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
The insurance will pay compensation to the victim.

And this doesn't encourage anything. I thought you said "insurance is peace of mind". Now i am worried that someone will bump me off and the misses gets the insurance. PMSL. Can't see the woods for the tree's.
If your attitude at home is similar to comments on here, perhaps you are right to be worried

Whether or not you have insurance
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: The insurance will pay compensation to the victim. And this doesn't encourage anything. I thought you said "insurance is peace of mind". Now i am worried that someone will bump me off and the misses gets the insurance. PMSL. Can't see the woods for the tree's.[/p][/quote]If your attitude at home is similar to comments on here, perhaps you are right to be worried Whether or not you have insurance Marty1979
  • Score: -2

12:06pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

I'm contacting the Bethlem and Maudsley, matron will soon take away WR9s internet access.

Back to the raffia baskets WR9, there's a good boy.
I'm contacting the Bethlem and Maudsley, matron will soon take away WR9s internet access. Back to the raffia baskets WR9, there's a good boy. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 20

12:43pm Sat 18 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

Marty1979 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
The insurance will pay compensation to the victim.

And this doesn't encourage anything. I thought you said "insurance is peace of mind". Now i am worried that someone will bump me off and the misses gets the insurance. PMSL. Can't see the woods for the tree's.
If your attitude at home is similar to comments on here, perhaps you are right to be worried

Whether or not you have insurance
Huh? very strange indeed.
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: The insurance will pay compensation to the victim. And this doesn't encourage anything. I thought you said "insurance is peace of mind". Now i am worried that someone will bump me off and the misses gets the insurance. PMSL. Can't see the woods for the tree's.[/p][/quote]If your attitude at home is similar to comments on here, perhaps you are right to be worried Whether or not you have insurance[/p][/quote]Huh? very strange indeed. white rabbit9
  • Score: -28

12:46pm Sat 18 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
I'm contacting the Bethlem and Maudsley, matron will soon take away WR9s internet access.

Back to the raffia baskets WR9, there's a good boy.
Who is to say what is normal? Try watching, 'one flew over the cuckoo's nest'. You sound like matron.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: I'm contacting the Bethlem and Maudsley, matron will soon take away WR9s internet access. Back to the raffia baskets WR9, there's a good boy.[/p][/quote]Who is to say what is normal? Try watching, 'one flew over the cuckoo's nest'. You sound like matron. white rabbit9
  • Score: -25

1:38pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

WR9, "what ya want me to take a sh1t on the floor, is that crazy enough for you " ?
WR9, "what ya want me to take a sh1t on the floor, is that crazy enough for you " ? Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 18

4:59pm Sat 18 Jan 14

toomush2drink says...

R9 yes we are all mad for daring to challenge your outbursts.

You quite freely and frequently tell us how everything means the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Yet at the same time tell us money isnt reall and printed out of thin air.

Please explain how someone having more of this worthless money printed out of thin air is then rich considering by your own frequent posts telling us its worthless and a debt ?


Name calling doesnt count for an answer nor does linking to someone elses articles.

Please use your own words for the response because failure to answer it in this way exposes you for the hypocritical trolling buffoon you are.
R9 yes we are all mad for daring to challenge your outbursts. You quite freely and frequently tell us how everything means the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Yet at the same time tell us money isnt reall and printed out of thin air. Please explain how someone having more of this worthless money printed out of thin air is then rich considering by your own frequent posts telling us its worthless and a debt ? Name calling doesnt count for an answer nor does linking to someone elses articles. Please use your own words for the response because failure to answer it in this way exposes you for the hypocritical trolling buffoon you are. toomush2drink
  • Score: 2

7:11pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

WR9 you love posting up YouTube links, this one is just for you and only you..

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=pT9Y7mxl
mLE


THAnK yOU
WR9 you love posting up YouTube links, this one is just for you and only you.. Enjoy https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=pT9Y7mxl mLE THAnK yOU Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -7

8:46pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Beckenham Chris says...

A few questions need answering here.

Why is this a story ? - HOME INSURANCE should cover the damage - If you aint got it its not covered so why are you complaining Ms Harman ?
oh you cant afford it ? I see. Maybe cut back on the food a bit ?

2. Why is this a story ? - i know same question. but why do these people all look the same ? Has News Shopper got a supply of overweight single mothers with lots of kids who are on benefits and take no responsability for their own lives hidden in a shed, who get wheeled out to moan on thin news weeks. ?

3. Why is this a Story . ZZZZZZZZZ
A few questions need answering here. Why is this a story ? - HOME INSURANCE should cover the damage - If you aint got it its not covered so why are you complaining Ms Harman ? oh you cant afford it ? I see. Maybe cut back on the food a bit ? 2. Why is this a story ? - i know same question. but why do these people all look the same ? Has News Shopper got a supply of overweight single mothers with lots of kids who are on benefits and take no responsability for their own lives hidden in a shed, who get wheeled out to moan on thin news weeks. ? 3. Why is this a Story . ZZZZZZZZZ Beckenham Chris
  • Score: -2

8:47pm Sat 18 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
WR9 you love posting up YouTube links, this one is just for you and only you..

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=pT9Y7mxl

mLE


THAnK yOU
lmao.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: WR9 you love posting up YouTube links, this one is just for you and only you.. Enjoy https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=pT9Y7mxl mLE THAnK yOU[/p][/quote]lmao. white rabbit9
  • Score: -20

8:56pm Sat 18 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

toomush2drink wrote:
R9 yes we are all mad for daring to challenge your outbursts.

You quite freely and frequently tell us how everything means the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Yet at the same time tell us money isnt reall and printed out of thin air.

Please explain how someone having more of this worthless money printed out of thin air is then rich considering by your own frequent posts telling us its worthless and a debt ?


Name calling doesnt count for an answer nor does linking to someone elses articles.

Please use your own words for the response because failure to answer it in this way exposes you for the hypocritical trolling buffoon you are.
I've been researching this subject for a very long time, you want me to explain the process of how they rip off the human race in here with no outside sources? ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? Do you know how programmed the human race is to believe what they believe, do ya?
Only once you understand what they have done they will never be able to manipulate you again. This is how big this is.
[quote][p][bold]toomush2drink[/bold] wrote: R9 yes we are all mad for daring to challenge your outbursts. You quite freely and frequently tell us how everything means the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Yet at the same time tell us money isnt reall and printed out of thin air. Please explain how someone having more of this worthless money printed out of thin air is then rich considering by your own frequent posts telling us its worthless and a debt ? Name calling doesnt count for an answer nor does linking to someone elses articles. Please use your own words for the response because failure to answer it in this way exposes you for the hypocritical trolling buffoon you are.[/p][/quote]I've been researching this subject for a very long time, you want me to explain the process of how they rip off the human race in here with no outside sources? ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? Do you know how programmed the human race is to believe what they believe, do ya? Only once you understand what they have done they will never be able to manipulate you again. This is how big this is. white rabbit9
  • Score: -10

8:58pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Beckenham Chris says...

An attractive munter !
An attractive munter ! Beckenham Chris
  • Score: -7

9:00pm Sat 18 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
WR9 you love posting up YouTube links, this one is just for you and only you..

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=pT9Y7mxl

mLE


THAnK yOU
https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=aEe5INfI
Sy4

So you.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: WR9 you love posting up YouTube links, this one is just for you and only you.. Enjoy https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=pT9Y7mxl mLE THAnK yOU[/p][/quote]https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=aEe5INfI Sy4 So you. white rabbit9
  • Score: -12

3:27am Sun 19 Jan 14

toomush2drink says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
toomush2drink wrote:
R9 yes we are all mad for daring to challenge your outbursts.

You quite freely and frequently tell us how everything means the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Yet at the same time tell us money isnt reall and printed out of thin air.

Please explain how someone having more of this worthless money printed out of thin air is then rich considering by your own frequent posts telling us its worthless and a debt ?


Name calling doesnt count for an answer nor does linking to someone elses articles.

Please use your own words for the response because failure to answer it in this way exposes you for the hypocritical trolling buffoon you are.
I've been researching this subject for a very long time, you want me to explain the process of how they rip off the human race in here with no outside sources? ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? Do you know how programmed the human race is to believe what they believe, do ya?
Only once you understand what they have done they will never be able to manipulate you again. This is how big this is.
Well done for dodging the question yet again and not actually answering .

So you keep saying the rich get richer but also point out that money is just printed and a debt but dont explain is this is the case how the rich actually become richer and not debt laden.

That was the question not the process of how they rip off the human race, which is only your form of diversion to straight questions requiring straight answers.

You have been exposed as the trolling fool you are.

If you really are the educated,enlightened person you try to portray this simple question would have been an easy answer, wouldnt it ?

Dont ever end up in a court of law as you could fail miserably ignoring the questions asked of you.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]toomush2drink[/bold] wrote: R9 yes we are all mad for daring to challenge your outbursts. You quite freely and frequently tell us how everything means the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Yet at the same time tell us money isnt reall and printed out of thin air. Please explain how someone having more of this worthless money printed out of thin air is then rich considering by your own frequent posts telling us its worthless and a debt ? Name calling doesnt count for an answer nor does linking to someone elses articles. Please use your own words for the response because failure to answer it in this way exposes you for the hypocritical trolling buffoon you are.[/p][/quote]I've been researching this subject for a very long time, you want me to explain the process of how they rip off the human race in here with no outside sources? ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? Do you know how programmed the human race is to believe what they believe, do ya? Only once you understand what they have done they will never be able to manipulate you again. This is how big this is.[/p][/quote]Well done for dodging the question yet again and not actually answering . So you keep saying the rich get richer but also point out that money is just printed and a debt but dont explain is this is the case how the rich actually become richer and not debt laden. That was the question not the process of how they rip off the human race, which is only your form of diversion to straight questions requiring straight answers. You have been exposed as the trolling fool you are. If you really are the educated,enlightened person you try to portray this simple question would have been an easy answer, wouldnt it ? Dont ever end up in a court of law as you could fail miserably ignoring the questions asked of you. toomush2drink
  • Score: 0

12:03pm Sun 19 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

toomush2drink wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
toomush2drink wrote:
R9 yes we are all mad for daring to challenge your outbursts.

You quite freely and frequently tell us how everything means the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Yet at the same time tell us money isnt reall and printed out of thin air.

Please explain how someone having more of this worthless money printed out of thin air is then rich considering by your own frequent posts telling us its worthless and a debt ?


Name calling doesnt count for an answer nor does linking to someone elses articles.

Please use your own words for the response because failure to answer it in this way exposes you for the hypocritical trolling buffoon you are.
I've been researching this subject for a very long time, you want me to explain the process of how they rip off the human race in here with no outside sources? ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? Do you know how programmed the human race is to believe what they believe, do ya?
Only once you understand what they have done they will never be able to manipulate you again. This is how big this is.
Well done for dodging the question yet again and not actually answering .

So you keep saying the rich get richer but also point out that money is just printed and a debt but dont explain is this is the case how the rich actually become richer and not debt laden.

That was the question not the process of how they rip off the human race, which is only your form of diversion to straight questions requiring straight answers.

You have been exposed as the trolling fool you are.

If you really are the educated,enlightened person you try to portray this simple question would have been an easy answer, wouldnt it ?

Dont ever end up in a court of law as you could fail miserably ignoring the questions asked of you.
Do you have the internet? I have to assume you don't as it could be very hard to type into the internet "does money exist"? So you might have the internet and is fire walled off from certain words. Is ROTHSCHILDS fire walled off as well maybe? My point is you have to research 'it' as you can't take another persons word for anything. If this were true I would 'believe' in religion.
[quote][p][bold]toomush2drink[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]toomush2drink[/bold] wrote: R9 yes we are all mad for daring to challenge your outbursts. You quite freely and frequently tell us how everything means the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Yet at the same time tell us money isnt reall and printed out of thin air. Please explain how someone having more of this worthless money printed out of thin air is then rich considering by your own frequent posts telling us its worthless and a debt ? Name calling doesnt count for an answer nor does linking to someone elses articles. Please use your own words for the response because failure to answer it in this way exposes you for the hypocritical trolling buffoon you are.[/p][/quote]I've been researching this subject for a very long time, you want me to explain the process of how they rip off the human race in here with no outside sources? ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? Do you know how programmed the human race is to believe what they believe, do ya? Only once you understand what they have done they will never be able to manipulate you again. This is how big this is.[/p][/quote]Well done for dodging the question yet again and not actually answering . So you keep saying the rich get richer but also point out that money is just printed and a debt but dont explain is this is the case how the rich actually become richer and not debt laden. That was the question not the process of how they rip off the human race, which is only your form of diversion to straight questions requiring straight answers. You have been exposed as the trolling fool you are. If you really are the educated,enlightened person you try to portray this simple question would have been an easy answer, wouldnt it ? Dont ever end up in a court of law as you could fail miserably ignoring the questions asked of you.[/p][/quote]Do you have the internet? I have to assume you don't as it could be very hard to type into the internet "does money exist"? So you might have the internet and is fire walled off from certain words. Is ROTHSCHILDS fire walled off as well maybe? My point is you have to research 'it' as you can't take another persons word for anything. If this were true I would 'believe' in religion. white rabbit9
  • Score: -26

3:52pm Sun 19 Jan 14

toomush2drink says...

Yet again you dont or more likely cant answer a question asked of you, you are a fraud pure and simple.
Yet again you dont or more likely cant answer a question asked of you, you are a fraud pure and simple. toomush2drink
  • Score: 0

4:53pm Sun 19 Jan 14

goldenbroomboy says...

Beckenham Chris wrote:
A few questions need answering here. Why is this a story ? - HOME INSURANCE should cover the damage - If you aint got it its not covered so why are you complaining Ms Harman ? oh you cant afford it ? I see. Maybe cut back on the food a bit ? 2. Why is this a story ? - i know same question. but why do these people all look the same ? Has News Shopper got a supply of overweight single mothers with lots of kids who are on benefits and take no responsability for their own lives hidden in a shed, who get wheeled out to moan on thin news weeks. ? 3. Why is this a Story . ZZZZZZZZZ
So every time something bad happens to somebody you think that it is their own fault?

We don't all live in big houses in Bickley.
[quote][p][bold]Beckenham Chris[/bold] wrote: A few questions need answering here. Why is this a story ? - HOME INSURANCE should cover the damage - If you aint got it its not covered so why are you complaining Ms Harman ? oh you cant afford it ? I see. Maybe cut back on the food a bit ? 2. Why is this a story ? - i know same question. but why do these people all look the same ? Has News Shopper got a supply of overweight single mothers with lots of kids who are on benefits and take no responsability for their own lives hidden in a shed, who get wheeled out to moan on thin news weeks. ? 3. Why is this a Story . ZZZZZZZZZ[/p][/quote]So every time something bad happens to somebody you think that it is their own fault? We don't all live in big houses in Bickley. goldenbroomboy
  • Score: 35

7:00pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Beckenham Chris says...

goldenbroomboy wrote:
Beckenham Chris wrote:
A few questions need answering here. Why is this a story ? - HOME INSURANCE should cover the damage - If you aint got it its not covered so why are you complaining Ms Harman ? oh you cant afford it ? I see. Maybe cut back on the food a bit ? 2. Why is this a story ? - i know same question. but why do these people all look the same ? Has News Shopper got a supply of overweight single mothers with lots of kids who are on benefits and take no responsability for their own lives hidden in a shed, who get wheeled out to moan on thin news weeks. ? 3. Why is this a Story . ZZZZZZZZZ
So every time something bad happens to somebody you think that it is their own fault?

We don't all live in big houses in Bickley.
Whats got living in Bickley got to do with anything ? The REASON for insurance is to cover unexpected events like what hapened to this woman. If she had insurance she would have had a claim to make woulnt she ?
No insurance ? whos fault is that then ? Err.yes HERS obviously

A NON STORY about a dopey woman
[quote][p][bold]goldenbroomboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beckenham Chris[/bold] wrote: A few questions need answering here. Why is this a story ? - HOME INSURANCE should cover the damage - If you aint got it its not covered so why are you complaining Ms Harman ? oh you cant afford it ? I see. Maybe cut back on the food a bit ? 2. Why is this a story ? - i know same question. but why do these people all look the same ? Has News Shopper got a supply of overweight single mothers with lots of kids who are on benefits and take no responsability for their own lives hidden in a shed, who get wheeled out to moan on thin news weeks. ? 3. Why is this a Story . ZZZZZZZZZ[/p][/quote]So every time something bad happens to somebody you think that it is their own fault? We don't all live in big houses in Bickley.[/p][/quote]Whats got living in Bickley got to do with anything ? The REASON for insurance is to cover unexpected events like what hapened to this woman. If she had insurance she would have had a claim to make woulnt she ? No insurance ? whos fault is that then ? Err.yes HERS obviously A NON STORY about a dopey woman Beckenham Chris
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