Bexleyheath residents fume at plans to build house in councillor's back garden

News Shopper: Residents of Garden Avenue, Bexleyheath have started a petition to stop the building of a house at the end of their gardens. Residents of Garden Avenue, Bexleyheath have started a petition to stop the building of a house at the end of their gardens.

A GROUP of residents living in an "idyllic" Bexleyheath street are angry a councillor neighbour plans to build a house at the end of her back garden.

Labour councillor Margaret O'Neill, who represents Erith and is on Bexley Council's planning committee, has submitted an application to build the two-storey house which will front Palmar Road.

Neighbours in Garden Avenue reacted in horror when they received a letter on January 3 informing them of the plans.

Former prison officer Tony Evan, who has lived in the road for eight years, has started a petition against the idea.

The 52-year-old said: "I was shocked and quite angry when we got the letter.

"There was no warning of this until the letter came through the door.

"We haven't been given much time to react but we have all put comments into the council and we got 34 signatures on the petition on the first day.

"If this house is built it will overlook my garden and ruin the view from my house. I will also lose sunlight and be blocked in.

"This is an idyllic spot."

Eddie Hambly, 60, who has lived in the road for three years, added: "I am a lover of wildlife and this is going to cripple that.

"They are going to have to chop down at least three mature holly trees that are filled with birds."

Mrs O'Neill was unavailable for comment at the time of going to press.

A spokesman for Bexley Council added: "Being fair and being seen to be fair is at the heart of the planning system.

“Cllr Margaret O’Neill’s planning application will be processed in the same way as other applications but, because she is a Councillor, her application will have to be considered at a meeting of the Planning Committee.

“The committee will make its decision on the basis of the information put to the meeting and the issues will discussed and the decision made in public.

“If she is present at the meeting, Cllr Margaret O’Neill will need to declare an interest in the application and leave the meeting while it is discussed."

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1:51pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Brook says...

Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves. Brook

2:57pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Hello_Mate says...

What kind of "house" will it be? that plot only looks big enough for a shed.
What kind of "house" will it be? that plot only looks big enough for a shed. Hello_Mate

3:19pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

I got some family could park a nice caravan in there. It's make your mind up time, house or caravan.
Nice bit o grass there too fer the horses be the look of it.
I got some family could park a nice caravan in there. It's make your mind up time, house or caravan. Nice bit o grass there too fer the horses be the look of it. Gypo.Joe

3:19pm Wed 15 Jan 14

ksc says...

Brook wrote:
Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.
[quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment. ksc

3:30pm Wed 15 Jan 14

the wall says...

"There was no warning of this until the letter came through the door"...... That is the warning.
"There was no warning of this until the letter came through the door"...... That is the warning. the wall

3:36pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

the wall wrote:
"There was no warning of this until the letter came through the door"...... That is the warning.
Perhaps they thought the town crier should announce it.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: "There was no warning of this until the letter came through the door"...... That is the warning.[/p][/quote]Perhaps they thought the town crier should announce it. Gypo.Joe

6:06pm Wed 15 Jan 14

cherished says...

I know a similar problem, a councillor on a planning committee, they tend to get away with it however many people object... Its who you know!!!
I know a similar problem, a councillor on a planning committee, they tend to get away with it however many people object... Its who you know!!! cherished

6:58pm Wed 15 Jan 14

molsey says...

ksc wrote:
Brook wrote:
Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.
These people are known as NIMBY'S.
[quote][p][bold]ksc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.[/p][/quote]These people are known as NIMBY'S. molsey

7:02pm Wed 15 Jan 14

molsey says...

cherished wrote:
I know a similar problem, a councillor on a planning committee, they tend to get away with it however many people object... Its who you know!!!
Yes, the Planning Officers report and recommendation will make interesting reading.
[quote][p][bold]cherished[/bold] wrote: I know a similar problem, a councillor on a planning committee, they tend to get away with it however many people object... Its who you know!!![/p][/quote]Yes, the Planning Officers report and recommendation will make interesting reading. molsey

7:03pm Wed 15 Jan 14

molsey says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
the wall wrote:
"There was no warning of this until the letter came through the door"...... That is the warning.
Perhaps they thought the town crier should announce it.
Or perhaps a plane towing a banner.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: "There was no warning of this until the letter came through the door"...... That is the warning.[/p][/quote]Perhaps they thought the town crier should announce it.[/p][/quote]Or perhaps a plane towing a banner. molsey

7:41pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

Listen stop fooling yaselves, this was all sorted out down the lodge over a few beers with their trouser leg rolled up.

On the square....OK.


I'm the widows son Hiram Abiff. today.
Listen stop fooling yaselves, this was all sorted out down the lodge over a few beers with their trouser leg rolled up. On the square....OK. I'm the widows son Hiram Abiff. today. Gypo.Joe

9:12pm Wed 15 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

There will be a planning meeting. It is vital that anyone opposing the plan actually attends in person. You don't get long to speak. Write down the issues you have, and ensure that they are reaonable objections.
There will be a planning meeting. It is vital that anyone opposing the plan actually attends in person. You don't get long to speak. Write down the issues you have, and ensure that they are reaonable objections. flea_in_ear

9:17pm Wed 15 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

molsey wrote:
ksc wrote:
Brook wrote:
Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.
These people are known as NIMBY'S.
Dear Molsey, Everyone is a NIMBY. Even you. Everyone has the thing that they cannot possibly tolerate. The person who loves foxes and cannot stand the people living nextdoor who hunt. The person who feeds the foxes to the dismay of their neighbours who keep chickens. The couple with a young child who discovers that there are plans afoot to try and rehabilitate paedophiles in a house nearby. Labels are a method of diminishing an argument because the labels in themselves do not mean anything - it is like arguing with a toddler. Now your sensible comment is?
[quote][p][bold]molsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ksc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.[/p][/quote]These people are known as NIMBY'S.[/p][/quote]Dear Molsey, Everyone is a NIMBY. Even you. Everyone has the thing that they cannot possibly tolerate. The person who loves foxes and cannot stand the people living nextdoor who hunt. The person who feeds the foxes to the dismay of their neighbours who keep chickens. The couple with a young child who discovers that there are plans afoot to try and rehabilitate paedophiles in a house nearby. Labels are a method of diminishing an argument because the labels in themselves do not mean anything - it is like arguing with a toddler. Now your sensible comment is? flea_in_ear

11:03pm Wed 15 Jan 14

ISaidThis says...

There's an "idyllic" Bexleyheath street?
There's an "idyllic" Bexleyheath street? ISaidThis

7:41am Thu 16 Jan 14

cherished says...

When you buy a house its because you like the area and enjoy life as it is, no one likes change especially when its forced upon you. Good luck in your fight but it's probably already decided.
When you buy a house its because you like the area and enjoy life as it is, no one likes change especially when its forced upon you. Good luck in your fight but it's probably already decided. cherished

9:54am Thu 16 Jan 14

the wall says...

flea_in_ear wrote:
molsey wrote:
ksc wrote:
Brook wrote:
Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.
These people are known as NIMBY'S.
Dear Molsey, Everyone is a NIMBY. Even you. Everyone has the thing that they cannot possibly tolerate. The person who loves foxes and cannot stand the people living nextdoor who hunt. The person who feeds the foxes to the dismay of their neighbours who keep chickens. The couple with a young child who discovers that there are plans afoot to try and rehabilitate paedophiles in a house nearby. Labels are a method of diminishing an argument because the labels in themselves do not mean anything - it is like arguing with a toddler. Now your sensible comment is?
Ha Ha - Spot on!
[quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ksc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.[/p][/quote]These people are known as NIMBY'S.[/p][/quote]Dear Molsey, Everyone is a NIMBY. Even you. Everyone has the thing that they cannot possibly tolerate. The person who loves foxes and cannot stand the people living nextdoor who hunt. The person who feeds the foxes to the dismay of their neighbours who keep chickens. The couple with a young child who discovers that there are plans afoot to try and rehabilitate paedophiles in a house nearby. Labels are a method of diminishing an argument because the labels in themselves do not mean anything - it is like arguing with a toddler. Now your sensible comment is?[/p][/quote]Ha Ha - Spot on! the wall

11:03am Thu 16 Jan 14

highway warrior says...

Seems a perfectly sound idea to me, it's a big garden and half of Palmar Road was built on the back Gardens of Garden Avenue. I bet they barely even raise an eye brow at Briarfield Close now. Houses need to be built.
Seems a perfectly sound idea to me, it's a big garden and half of Palmar Road was built on the back Gardens of Garden Avenue. I bet they barely even raise an eye brow at Briarfield Close now. Houses need to be built. highway warrior

12:16pm Thu 16 Jan 14

kentlad says...

Brook wrote:
Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
I don’t think its jealousy I totally understand where the neighbours who live directly either side of the house are feeling. A friend of mine has lived at his current address for nearly seven years and his neighbour built a two bedroom house at the bottom of the garden where his double garage was for his teenage son. Not only does my friend have noise coming from both directions when relaxing in the garden his teenage daughter and wife can’t even sunbath or relax in their own garden as the teenage son and his friends are always hanging out of their window smoking and watching them. My friends is a four bedroom converted chalet house in Chislehurst, it’s been valued at £480k so it’s not cheap however, this has been reduced three times over the past year due to them struggling to sell even though it’s like a show home WHY??? because the estate agents don’t tell potential buyers about the neighbours house at the bottom of the garden and when people come to view they take one look outside into the garden and say no thanks!!!! Numerous estate agents have told my friends most people love the house but, don’t like being over looked by the house at the bottom and lets be fair for a house just below half a million you expect some privacy!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.[/p][/quote]I don’t think its jealousy I totally understand where the neighbours who live directly either side of the house are feeling. A friend of mine has lived at his current address for nearly seven years and his neighbour built a two bedroom house at the bottom of the garden where his double garage was for his teenage son. Not only does my friend have noise coming from both directions when relaxing in the garden his teenage daughter and wife can’t even sunbath or relax in their own garden as the teenage son and his friends are always hanging out of their window smoking and watching them. My friends is a four bedroom converted chalet house in Chislehurst, it’s been valued at £480k so it’s not cheap however, this has been reduced three times over the past year due to them struggling to sell even though it’s like a show home WHY??? because the estate agents don’t tell potential buyers about the neighbours house at the bottom of the garden and when people come to view they take one look outside into the garden and say no thanks!!!! Numerous estate agents have told my friends most people love the house but, don’t like being over looked by the house at the bottom and lets be fair for a house just below half a million you expect some privacy!!!! kentlad

12:20pm Thu 16 Jan 14

molsey says...

flea_in_ear wrote:
molsey wrote:
ksc wrote:
Brook wrote:
Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.
These people are known as NIMBY'S.
Dear Molsey, Everyone is a NIMBY. Even you. Everyone has the thing that they cannot possibly tolerate. The person who loves foxes and cannot stand the people living nextdoor who hunt. The person who feeds the foxes to the dismay of their neighbours who keep chickens. The couple with a young child who discovers that there are plans afoot to try and rehabilitate paedophiles in a house nearby. Labels are a method of diminishing an argument because the labels in themselves do not mean anything - it is like arguing with a toddler. Now your sensible comment is?
B******s! How's that?
[quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ksc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.[/p][/quote]These people are known as NIMBY'S.[/p][/quote]Dear Molsey, Everyone is a NIMBY. Even you. Everyone has the thing that they cannot possibly tolerate. The person who loves foxes and cannot stand the people living nextdoor who hunt. The person who feeds the foxes to the dismay of their neighbours who keep chickens. The couple with a young child who discovers that there are plans afoot to try and rehabilitate paedophiles in a house nearby. Labels are a method of diminishing an argument because the labels in themselves do not mean anything - it is like arguing with a toddler. Now your sensible comment is?[/p][/quote]B******s! How's that? molsey

12:24pm Thu 16 Jan 14

molsey says...

highway warrior wrote:
Seems a perfectly sound idea to me, it's a big garden and half of Palmar Road was built on the back Gardens of Garden Avenue. I bet they barely even raise an eye brow at Briarfield Close now. Houses need to be built.
Ha ha - Spot on!
[quote][p][bold]highway warrior[/bold] wrote: Seems a perfectly sound idea to me, it's a big garden and half of Palmar Road was built on the back Gardens of Garden Avenue. I bet they barely even raise an eye brow at Briarfield Close now. Houses need to be built.[/p][/quote]Ha ha - Spot on! molsey

1:09pm Thu 16 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

highway warrior wrote:
Seems a perfectly sound idea to me, it's a big garden and half of Palmar Road was built on the back Gardens of Garden Avenue. I bet they barely even raise an eye brow at Briarfield Close now. Houses need to be built.
Houses need to be considered to be built when empty second homes are considered, or third homes etc. There are too many properties in foreign ownership which are used as a holiday base, and occupied perhaps for six weeks a year if that. Far too many in London.
[quote][p][bold]highway warrior[/bold] wrote: Seems a perfectly sound idea to me, it's a big garden and half of Palmar Road was built on the back Gardens of Garden Avenue. I bet they barely even raise an eye brow at Briarfield Close now. Houses need to be built.[/p][/quote]Houses need to be considered to be built when empty second homes are considered, or third homes etc. There are too many properties in foreign ownership which are used as a holiday base, and occupied perhaps for six weeks a year if that. Far too many in London. flea_in_ear

1:09pm Thu 16 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

molsey wrote:
flea_in_ear wrote:
molsey wrote:
ksc wrote:
Brook wrote:
Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.
These people are known as NIMBY'S.
Dear Molsey, Everyone is a NIMBY. Even you. Everyone has the thing that they cannot possibly tolerate. The person who loves foxes and cannot stand the people living nextdoor who hunt. The person who feeds the foxes to the dismay of their neighbours who keep chickens. The couple with a young child who discovers that there are plans afoot to try and rehabilitate paedophiles in a house nearby. Labels are a method of diminishing an argument because the labels in themselves do not mean anything - it is like arguing with a toddler. Now your sensible comment is?
B******s! How's that?
Oh dear. Have you borrowed Daddy's laptop?
[quote][p][bold]molsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ksc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.[/p][/quote]These people are known as NIMBY'S.[/p][/quote]Dear Molsey, Everyone is a NIMBY. Even you. Everyone has the thing that they cannot possibly tolerate. The person who loves foxes and cannot stand the people living nextdoor who hunt. The person who feeds the foxes to the dismay of their neighbours who keep chickens. The couple with a young child who discovers that there are plans afoot to try and rehabilitate paedophiles in a house nearby. Labels are a method of diminishing an argument because the labels in themselves do not mean anything - it is like arguing with a toddler. Now your sensible comment is?[/p][/quote]B******s! How's that?[/p][/quote]Oh dear. Have you borrowed Daddy's laptop? flea_in_ear

1:28pm Thu 16 Jan 14

PaulErith says...

ksc wrote:
Brook wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.
Totally agree that they have the right to voice their opinion. However, I can't see any need whatsoever to go to the local paper! They were sent the letter telling them about the proposal - Yep, that's normal and in line with procedure. They have the right to put their concerns and objections to the council - Again, that's normal procedure. Then, a decision will be made!

Now, if it got permission and there was some evidence of corruption, etc. then fair enough. However, at the moment, this is all in line with standards, so no need at all to bleat to the papers.
[quote][p][bold]ksc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.[/p][/quote]Totally agree that they have the right to voice their opinion. However, I can't see any need whatsoever to go to the local paper! They were sent the letter telling them about the proposal - Yep, that's normal and in line with procedure. They have the right to put their concerns and objections to the council - Again, that's normal procedure. Then, a decision will be made! Now, if it got permission and there was some evidence of corruption, etc. then fair enough. However, at the moment, this is all in line with standards, so no need at all to bleat to the papers. PaulErith

2:03pm Thu 16 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

PaulErith wrote:
ksc wrote:
Brook wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.
Totally agree that they have the right to voice their opinion. However, I can't see any need whatsoever to go to the local paper! They were sent the letter telling them about the proposal - Yep, that's normal and in line with procedure. They have the right to put their concerns and objections to the council - Again, that's normal procedure. Then, a decision will be made!

Now, if it got permission and there was some evidence of corruption, etc. then fair enough. However, at the moment, this is all in line with standards, so no need at all to bleat to the papers.
But I thought a stop was being put to the piggy-back housing - the houses built on gardens. Does no one else remember that promise?
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ksc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.[/p][/quote]I don't think it's a matter of "getting over" anything, this application quite clearly doesn't affect you in any way, otherwise your views, (excuse the pun) would be very much different, these people have a genuine concern so why would they not use the system to voice those concerns. Could you imagine a world where you can't raise an objection to any decisions made by higher powers, you would end up with a car park in your back garden and a council recycling plant in your front garden, but of course, you would be too busy getting over yourself to raise an objection, and happily accept any building projects around your property, and of course if you don't have a garden to call your own, then I can understand why you used the word JEALOUS in your comment.[/p][/quote]Totally agree that they have the right to voice their opinion. However, I can't see any need whatsoever to go to the local paper! They were sent the letter telling them about the proposal - Yep, that's normal and in line with procedure. They have the right to put their concerns and objections to the council - Again, that's normal procedure. Then, a decision will be made! Now, if it got permission and there was some evidence of corruption, etc. then fair enough. However, at the moment, this is all in line with standards, so no need at all to bleat to the papers.[/p][/quote]But I thought a stop was being put to the piggy-back housing - the houses built on gardens. Does no one else remember that promise? flea_in_ear

6:13pm Thu 16 Jan 14

cherished says...

At least they have applied for what they are actually planning. The trick they also use is to get something smaller passed then change the plan to what they really want. By then there is little one can object to. Check the declarations register, is this person a developer?
At least they have applied for what they are actually planning. The trick they also use is to get something smaller passed then change the plan to what they really want. By then there is little one can object to. Check the declarations register, is this person a developer? cherished

9:22pm Thu 16 Jan 14

MrsJ2012 says...

Not good form for a Councillor to do something so blatantly un-neighbourly is it.......and why does a Councillor representing Erith live in Bexleyheath? Not really representing their constituents are they - probably think Erith is not 'idyllic' enough ;) Typical Labour - 'we're on the side of the normal working man on the street ........we just don't want to have to go anywhere near them'.
Not good form for a Councillor to do something so blatantly un-neighbourly is it.......and why does a Councillor representing Erith live in Bexleyheath? Not really representing their constituents are they - probably think Erith is not 'idyllic' enough ;) Typical Labour - 'we're on the side of the normal working man on the street ........we just don't want to have to go anywhere near them'. MrsJ2012

10:37am Fri 17 Jan 14

highway warrior says...

It's only a story because a councillor owns the house!
I wonder if a 3 bed house will magically turn into a block flats after planning is granted lol
It's only a story because a councillor owns the house! I wonder if a 3 bed house will magically turn into a block flats after planning is granted lol highway warrior

11:12am Fri 17 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

Jealousy mixed with a little nimbyism nothing more. Grit your teeth ( after taking them out of the glass ) and get over it FFS.

Of course you could all club together and buy the property yourselves.
Jealousy mixed with a little nimbyism nothing more. Grit your teeth ( after taking them out of the glass ) and get over it FFS. Of course you could all club together and buy the property yourselves. Gypo.Joe

12:44pm Fri 17 Jan 14

PaulErith says...

MrsJ2012 wrote:
Not good form for a Councillor to do something so blatantly un-neighbourly is it.......and why does a Councillor representing Erith live in Bexleyheath? Not really representing their constituents are they - probably think Erith is not 'idyllic' enough ;) Typical Labour - 'we're on the side of the normal working man on the street ........we just don't want to have to go anywhere near them'.
The fact that it's a councillor really shouldn't make any difference! It's the only reason that it's become a story in the first place, but it's a load of rubbish. Many people, every day apply for planning permission to do a variety of things on their land. So long as it goes through the proper channels, then this really is a non-story.
[quote][p][bold]MrsJ2012[/bold] wrote: Not good form for a Councillor to do something so blatantly un-neighbourly is it.......and why does a Councillor representing Erith live in Bexleyheath? Not really representing their constituents are they - probably think Erith is not 'idyllic' enough ;) Typical Labour - 'we're on the side of the normal working man on the street ........we just don't want to have to go anywhere near them'.[/p][/quote]The fact that it's a councillor really shouldn't make any difference! It's the only reason that it's become a story in the first place, but it's a load of rubbish. Many people, every day apply for planning permission to do a variety of things on their land. So long as it goes through the proper channels, then this really is a non-story. PaulErith

1:15pm Fri 17 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Jealousy mixed with a little nimbyism nothing more. Grit your teeth ( after taking them out of the glass ) and get over it FFS.

Of course you could all club together and buy the property yourselves.
Well, no, you are making assumptions that people are jealous. This property does not affect me, but I have a reasonably long back garden in comparison to many modern homes, and I suppose I could put a small house on it, but I really wouldn't want to. And as I said before, NIMBY applies to everyone. It just depends upon what matters someone has an issue with. You will have issues with some things.

With additional housing there can be problems with parking, access roads, privacy. And there was the promise of no further building on back gardens, you may recall?
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Jealousy mixed with a little nimbyism nothing more. Grit your teeth ( after taking them out of the glass ) and get over it FFS. Of course you could all club together and buy the property yourselves.[/p][/quote]Well, no, you are making assumptions that people are jealous. This property does not affect me, but I have a reasonably long back garden in comparison to many modern homes, and I suppose I could put a small house on it, but I really wouldn't want to. And as I said before, NIMBY applies to everyone. It just depends upon what matters someone has an issue with. You will have issues with some things. With additional housing there can be problems with parking, access roads, privacy. And there was the promise of no further building on back gardens, you may recall? flea_in_ear

3:17pm Fri 17 Jan 14

ms day says...

THIS COUNCILLOR WORKS FOR GREENWICH COUNCIL THEY ALL CROOKS THEY HELP THEMSELVES FIRST .
THIS COUNCILLOR WORKS FOR GREENWICH COUNCIL THEY ALL CROOKS THEY HELP THEMSELVES FIRST . ms day

3:09pm Sun 19 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

ms day wrote:
THIS COUNCILLOR WORKS FOR GREENWICH COUNCIL THEY ALL CROOKS THEY HELP THEMSELVES FIRST .
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]ms day[/bold] wrote: THIS COUNCILLOR WORKS FOR GREENWICH COUNCIL THEY ALL CROOKS THEY HELP THEMSELVES FIRST .[/p][/quote]Spot on. white rabbit9

4:48pm Sun 19 Jan 14

goldenbroomboy says...

PaulErith wrote:
MrsJ2012 wrote: Not good form for a Councillor to do something so blatantly un-neighbourly is it.......and why does a Councillor representing Erith live in Bexleyheath? Not really representing their constituents are they - probably think Erith is not 'idyllic' enough ;) Typical Labour - 'we're on the side of the normal working man on the street ........we just don't want to have to go anywhere near them'.
The fact that it's a councillor really shouldn't make any difference! It's the only reason that it's become a story in the first place, but it's a load of rubbish. Many people, every day apply for planning permission to do a variety of things on their land. So long as it goes through the proper channels, then this really is a non-story.
OK Paul, would you be happy if your next door neighbour built a huge workshop next to your shared fence & then started a business repairing cars?
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrsJ2012[/bold] wrote: Not good form for a Councillor to do something so blatantly un-neighbourly is it.......and why does a Councillor representing Erith live in Bexleyheath? Not really representing their constituents are they - probably think Erith is not 'idyllic' enough ;) Typical Labour - 'we're on the side of the normal working man on the street ........we just don't want to have to go anywhere near them'.[/p][/quote]The fact that it's a councillor really shouldn't make any difference! It's the only reason that it's become a story in the first place, but it's a load of rubbish. Many people, every day apply for planning permission to do a variety of things on their land. So long as it goes through the proper channels, then this really is a non-story.[/p][/quote]OK Paul, would you be happy if your next door neighbour built a huge workshop next to your shared fence & then started a business repairing cars? goldenbroomboy

11:28pm Sun 19 Jan 14

toomush2drink says...

kentlad wrote:
Brook wrote:
Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.
I don’t think its jealousy I totally understand where the neighbours who live directly either side of the house are feeling. A friend of mine has lived at his current address for nearly seven years and his neighbour built a two bedroom house at the bottom of the garden where his double garage was for his teenage son. Not only does my friend have noise coming from both directions when relaxing in the garden his teenage daughter and wife can’t even sunbath or relax in their own garden as the teenage son and his friends are always hanging out of their window smoking and watching them. My friends is a four bedroom converted chalet house in Chislehurst, it’s been valued at £480k so it’s not cheap however, this has been reduced three times over the past year due to them struggling to sell even though it’s like a show home WHY??? because the estate agents don’t tell potential buyers about the neighbours house at the bottom of the garden and when people come to view they take one look outside into the garden and say no thanks!!!! Numerous estate agents have told my friends most people love the house but, don’t like being over looked by the house at the bottom and lets be fair for a house just below half a million you expect some privacy!!!!
Everything sells at the right price and as you mentioned its not cheap, doesnt take much working out how to sell it.
[quote][p][bold]kentlad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get over yourselves. Obviously jealous your gardens don't front another road so can't build one yourselves.[/p][/quote]I don’t think its jealousy I totally understand where the neighbours who live directly either side of the house are feeling. A friend of mine has lived at his current address for nearly seven years and his neighbour built a two bedroom house at the bottom of the garden where his double garage was for his teenage son. Not only does my friend have noise coming from both directions when relaxing in the garden his teenage daughter and wife can’t even sunbath or relax in their own garden as the teenage son and his friends are always hanging out of their window smoking and watching them. My friends is a four bedroom converted chalet house in Chislehurst, it’s been valued at £480k so it’s not cheap however, this has been reduced three times over the past year due to them struggling to sell even though it’s like a show home WHY??? because the estate agents don’t tell potential buyers about the neighbours house at the bottom of the garden and when people come to view they take one look outside into the garden and say no thanks!!!! Numerous estate agents have told my friends most people love the house but, don’t like being over looked by the house at the bottom and lets be fair for a house just below half a million you expect some privacy!!!![/p][/quote]Everything sells at the right price and as you mentioned its not cheap, doesnt take much working out how to sell it. toomush2drink

12:27pm Mon 20 Jan 14

PaulErith says...

goldenbroomboy wrote:
PaulErith wrote:
MrsJ2012 wrote: Not good form for a Councillor to do something so blatantly un-neighbourly is it.......and why does a Councillor representing Erith live in Bexleyheath? Not really representing their constituents are they - probably think Erith is not 'idyllic' enough ;) Typical Labour - 'we're on the side of the normal working man on the street ........we just don't want to have to go anywhere near them'.
The fact that it's a councillor really shouldn't make any difference! It's the only reason that it's become a story in the first place, but it's a load of rubbish. Many people, every day apply for planning permission to do a variety of things on their land. So long as it goes through the proper channels, then this really is a non-story.
OK Paul, would you be happy if your next door neighbour built a huge workshop next to your shared fence & then started a business repairing cars?
No of course not. That's not the point. If it happened, I would post my objections when the planning permission application was made. However, I respect my neighbours have every right to apply to do that if they want. That's all I'm saying with regards to this story, nobody has done anything wrong. It's just a standard planning permission application so running to the papers criticising the guy is not necessary.
[quote][p][bold]goldenbroomboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrsJ2012[/bold] wrote: Not good form for a Councillor to do something so blatantly un-neighbourly is it.......and why does a Councillor representing Erith live in Bexleyheath? Not really representing their constituents are they - probably think Erith is not 'idyllic' enough ;) Typical Labour - 'we're on the side of the normal working man on the street ........we just don't want to have to go anywhere near them'.[/p][/quote]The fact that it's a councillor really shouldn't make any difference! It's the only reason that it's become a story in the first place, but it's a load of rubbish. Many people, every day apply for planning permission to do a variety of things on their land. So long as it goes through the proper channels, then this really is a non-story.[/p][/quote]OK Paul, would you be happy if your next door neighbour built a huge workshop next to your shared fence & then started a business repairing cars?[/p][/quote]No of course not. That's not the point. If it happened, I would post my objections when the planning permission application was made. However, I respect my neighbours have every right to apply to do that if they want. That's all I'm saying with regards to this story, nobody has done anything wrong. It's just a standard planning permission application so running to the papers criticising the guy is not necessary. PaulErith

11:20pm Thu 6 Feb 14

councillor con says...

From the planning permission review, it is quite plain to see that this proposed house, on their own property, is being built so that they can move into it (at the end of their own garden) so they can sell the larger front house, avoiding capital gains tax.

There is no need for a house to be built there, at all. This will effect the many people who neighbour the property, and wildlife, all for one councillors greed.
From the planning permission review, it is quite plain to see that this proposed house, on their own property, is being built so that they can move into it (at the end of their own garden) so they can sell the larger front house, avoiding capital gains tax. There is no need for a house to be built there, at all. This will effect the many people who neighbour the property, and wildlife, all for one councillors greed. councillor con

6:56am Fri 7 Feb 14

cherished says...

Trouble is they usually say it's to helping the housing market, affordable homes etc, when its just greed. Look at a story Archer Way Swanley, I was following this news story of pure council manipulation and greed! Good luck to these residents.
Trouble is they usually say it's to helping the housing market, affordable homes etc, when its just greed. Look at a story Archer Way Swanley, I was following this news story of pure council manipulation and greed! Good luck to these residents. cherished

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