Dog 'ripped to shreds' by Bullmastiff 'killing machine' in Chislehurst park

News Shopper: German Shorthaired Pointer Fitch after the attack. German Shorthaired Pointer Fitch after the attack.

A WOMAN says her dog was "ripped to shreds" by a Bullmastiff "killing machine" while out walking in a Chislehurst park.

Karen South, of Widmore Road, Bromley, was walking 4-year-old Fitch, a German Shorthaired Pointer, in Scadbury Park on Saturday (January 4) morning.

There she encountered a man with two Bullmastiffs, one white and one black.

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Fitch before the attack.

The 48-year-old said: "I have seen the man before and normally he keeps them on a lead.

"On Saturday they weren't.

"My dog was walking in front of me, all peaceful and quiet.

"He walked round the corner. Then I could hear what sounded like a fight going on and a man's voice.

"I turned the corner and there was my dog being attacked by the white one. He grabbed my dog in his mouth.

"Fitch was yelping and screaming, his eyes were bulging.

"He had no chance, he just had to take the attack. This animal was like a killing machine.

"I was witnessing him being ripped to shreds in front of me."

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Injuries suffered by Fitch.

Ms South and the man desperately tried to separate them, but for 20 minutes they could do nothing.

She said: "The man was yelling at the white one to get off.

"He was kicking him and punching him and squeezing his testicles but he wouldn't move.

"I tried open the other dog's mouth to get him off.

"It was 20 minutes of sustained attack, it was like something out of Hound of the Baskervilles. It was horrific."

Eventually Ms South managed to separate the dogs, before rushing Fitch straight to the vet.

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Ms South was also hurt in the attack.

She added: "In the end we managed to get my dog off. He had puncture wounds on the back of his spine and all around his neck and side.

"The vet quickly sedated him and cleaned him up. He was treated for five hours.

"The vet told me he is lucky to have all his limbs and he is lucky to be alive.

"I've got extensive bruising and puncture marks on my arm. I've a cut on my finger where I put my hand in the other dog's mouth.

"A smaller dog would have been ripped to shreds or God forbid what would have happened to a toddler."

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6:42pm Wed 8 Jan 14

molsey says...

Mastiffs not on leads, any witnesses? Get the Mastiff owner nicked.
Mastiffs not on leads, any witnesses? Get the Mastiff owner nicked. molsey
  • Score: 21

6:07am Thu 9 Jan 14

sarfflondonbird says...

I hope your dog makes a good recovery from this terrible episode. Maybe it's time to have all of these types of dog muzzled when out, at least just to be on the safe side.
I hope your dog makes a good recovery from this terrible episode. Maybe it's time to have all of these types of dog muzzled when out, at least just to be on the safe side. sarfflondonbird
  • Score: 26

8:28am Thu 9 Jan 14

Happygolucky13 says...

It's not the dog, its the owner that needs training. I own a mastiff, and from 8 weeks old she was socialised with every type of dog. Its so much easier and a pleasure to take her for a walk. It's these people who have these dogs as a status symbol that need a muzzle.
It's not the dog, its the owner that needs training. I own a mastiff, and from 8 weeks old she was socialised with every type of dog. Its so much easier and a pleasure to take her for a walk. It's these people who have these dogs as a status symbol that need a muzzle. Happygolucky13
  • Score: 14

8:45am Thu 9 Jan 14

kentlad says...

I also walk my dogs in Scadbury and know of the gentleman you are referring to although not by name just seen him out walking too. I have seen him on numerous occasions I must admit his dogs have always been ok. All dogs must be kept on leads within the reserve for the protection of farm animals and also the horses.
A friend of mine has two mastiffs and to be honest I was always worried about them mainly due to their large scale and of course power. As the pups grew they got to know my kids and play with my dogs of which is actually quite funny as the male mastiff actually runs away from my little dog :)
As with any dog it’s not always the breed that can make them turn it’s also the people who own them for one reason only as a status sympbol and to scare. Any powerful dog such as the mastiff in my opinion should be muzzled and definitely all dogs should be kept on leads.
I also walk my dogs in Scadbury and know of the gentleman you are referring to although not by name just seen him out walking too. I have seen him on numerous occasions I must admit his dogs have always been ok. All dogs must be kept on leads within the reserve for the protection of farm animals and also the horses. A friend of mine has two mastiffs and to be honest I was always worried about them mainly due to their large scale and of course power. As the pups grew they got to know my kids and play with my dogs of which is actually quite funny as the male mastiff actually runs away from my little dog :) As with any dog it’s not always the breed that can make them turn it’s also the people who own them for one reason only as a status sympbol and to scare. Any powerful dog such as the mastiff in my opinion should be muzzled and definitely all dogs should be kept on leads. kentlad
  • Score: 22

9:20am Thu 9 Jan 14

wellze says...

My two nine month old paterdale terriers where attacked by a staf when l was at my local park and the owner did not even seem bothered just said oh he don't normally do that. l agree with the comment above all dogs known to be dangers to other dogs and people if aloud to be kept as pets should have to ever be on a lead or if off the lead be wearing a muzzle its about time l and overs like me got the chance to take are dogs for a walk without having to worry if are dogs going to be safe.
My two nine month old paterdale terriers where attacked by a staf when l was at my local park and the owner did not even seem bothered just said oh he don't normally do that. l agree with the comment above all dogs known to be dangers to other dogs and people if aloud to be kept as pets should have to ever be on a lead or if off the lead be wearing a muzzle its about time l and overs like me got the chance to take are dogs for a walk without having to worry if are dogs going to be safe. wellze
  • Score: 11

11:07am Thu 9 Jan 14

Enzo22 says...

I am in absolute shock by what I read within this article. I regularly walk around scadbury park with my family and have passed Fitch around the course. On all occasions, he has been very people-friendly and responsive to his owner. I can not help but think "what if?" In a situation like this, in case it was a young child, elderly, or even a 'weaker' adult for that matter. It is inexcusable that the Bullmastiffs should have been on a lead, as the owner clearly knew they were aggressive or needed control, demonstrated by the other times they were on a lead. In my opinion, dogs of this threat to humans and other animals should only be kept in possession of the military or the Police. I hope that not only Karen and Fitch make a full recovery, but also their family from emotional stress.
I am in absolute shock by what I read within this article. I regularly walk around scadbury park with my family and have passed Fitch around the course. On all occasions, he has been very people-friendly and responsive to his owner. I can not help but think "what if?" In a situation like this, in case it was a young child, elderly, or even a 'weaker' adult for that matter. It is inexcusable that the Bullmastiffs should have been on a lead, as the owner clearly knew they were aggressive or needed control, demonstrated by the other times they were on a lead. In my opinion, dogs of this threat to humans and other animals should only be kept in possession of the military or the Police. I hope that not only Karen and Fitch make a full recovery, but also their family from emotional stress. Enzo22
  • Score: 21

2:25pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Pish2009 says...

I can't believe this has happened to Fitch! I often take my dogs to Scadbury and have seen Fitch and his owner Karen walking regularly over the past couple of years. Fitch is extremely tolerant towards his owner and other dogs, I can't imagine him provoking any kind of brawl. It's likely that people are now going to worry about walking their dog at Scadbury, which is a massive shame as it's the perfect place to walk with dogs or family. It is clear that the two Bullmastiffs are aggressive and therefore should be on a lead at all times, especially if they're not wearing a muzzle! I can't imagine how horrible it must have been for Karen having to witness Fitch being mauled right in front of her, I hope both Karen and Fitch make a speedy recovery.
I can't believe this has happened to Fitch! I often take my dogs to Scadbury and have seen Fitch and his owner Karen walking regularly over the past couple of years. Fitch is extremely tolerant towards his owner and other dogs, I can't imagine him provoking any kind of brawl. It's likely that people are now going to worry about walking their dog at Scadbury, which is a massive shame as it's the perfect place to walk with dogs or family. It is clear that the two Bullmastiffs are aggressive and therefore should be on a lead at all times, especially if they're not wearing a muzzle! I can't imagine how horrible it must have been for Karen having to witness Fitch being mauled right in front of her, I hope both Karen and Fitch make a speedy recovery. Pish2009
  • Score: 10

10:24pm Thu 9 Jan 14

lorririch says...

I am horrified by this unprovoked attack and wish Fitcn a speedy recovery and hope that this does not make him nervous.
Does anyone know the owner of the Bullmaistiffs? and has this attack been reported? as many have said this could be a child next time.
I am horrified by this unprovoked attack and wish Fitcn a speedy recovery and hope that this does not make him nervous. Does anyone know the owner of the Bullmaistiffs? and has this attack been reported? as many have said this could be a child next time. lorririch
  • Score: 8

1:41pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Wiff180 says...

Poor dog and owner, must have been very traumatic. Having had dogs all my life it's true they are what you make them. Idiot chavs with these vicious dogs should be held responsible.
I bet the Police won't do anything until it attacks a child.
Poor dog and owner, must have been very traumatic. Having had dogs all my life it's true they are what you make them. Idiot chavs with these vicious dogs should be held responsible. I bet the Police won't do anything until it attacks a child. Wiff180
  • Score: 6

5:31pm Fri 10 Jan 14

oldmanhumbug says...

Although this is a very bad incident, both the woman and dog must have been terrified and I hope the man with these dogs is caught and also that dog makes a full recovery both in body and mind but I’ve got to say as a Bullmastiff owner myself that before everyone jumps on the band wagon and starts committing on and giving bullmastiff’s/mast
iff’s a bad name (once again mistaken identity) that these two dogs are not and cannot be bullmastiffs, she says she encountered a man with two Bullmastiffs, one white and one black. I’m afraid to say that Bullmastiff’s/Mast
iff’s do not come in those colours so I would like it if the news shopper would change their headline to this story (Dog 'ripped to shreds' by Bullmastiff 'killing machine' in Chislehurst Park) because it is simply untrue.
Although this is a very bad incident, both the woman and dog must have been terrified and I hope the man with these dogs is caught and also that dog makes a full recovery both in body and mind but I’ve got to say as a Bullmastiff owner myself that before everyone jumps on the band wagon and starts committing on and giving bullmastiff’s/mast iff’s a bad name (once again mistaken identity) that these two dogs are not and cannot be bullmastiffs, she says she encountered a man with two Bullmastiffs, one white and one black. I’m afraid to say that Bullmastiff’s/Mast iff’s do not come in those colours so I would like it if the news shopper would change their headline to this story (Dog 'ripped to shreds' by Bullmastiff 'killing machine' in Chislehurst Park) because it is simply untrue. oldmanhumbug
  • Score: 12

6:21pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Enzo22 says...

oldmanhumbug wrote:
Although this is a very bad incident, both the woman and dog must have been terrified and I hope the man with these dogs is caught and also that dog makes a full recovery both in body and mind but I’ve got to say as a Bullmastiff owner myself that before everyone jumps on the band wagon and starts committing on and giving bullmastiff’s/mast

iff’s a bad name (once again mistaken identity) that these two dogs are not and cannot be bullmastiffs, she says she encountered a man with two Bullmastiffs, one white and one black. I’m afraid to say that Bullmastiff’s/Mast

iff’s do not come in those colours so I would like it if the news shopper would change their headline to this story (Dog 'ripped to shreds' by Bullmastiff 'killing machine' in Chislehurst Park) because it is simply untrue.
Oldmanhumbug,

May I ask whether you keep your dog on a lead whilst walking?

As for the comment in regards to the colour, what other dog could it have been? I personally have seen a white and a black bullmastiff in the past, and I have just researched this to confirm the identity of these dogs.
[quote][p][bold]oldmanhumbug[/bold] wrote: Although this is a very bad incident, both the woman and dog must have been terrified and I hope the man with these dogs is caught and also that dog makes a full recovery both in body and mind but I’ve got to say as a Bullmastiff owner myself that before everyone jumps on the band wagon and starts committing on and giving bullmastiff’s/mast iff’s a bad name (once again mistaken identity) that these two dogs are not and cannot be bullmastiffs, she says she encountered a man with two Bullmastiffs, one white and one black. I’m afraid to say that Bullmastiff’s/Mast iff’s do not come in those colours so I would like it if the news shopper would change their headline to this story (Dog 'ripped to shreds' by Bullmastiff 'killing machine' in Chislehurst Park) because it is simply untrue.[/p][/quote]Oldmanhumbug, May I ask whether you keep your dog on a lead whilst walking? As for the comment in regards to the colour, what other dog could it have been? I personally have seen a white and a black bullmastiff in the past, and I have just researched this to confirm the identity of these dogs. Enzo22
  • Score: -7

7:19pm Fri 10 Jan 14

oldmanhumbug says...

Enzo22 wrote:
oldmanhumbug wrote:
Although this is a very bad incident, both the woman and dog must have been terrified and I hope the man with these dogs is caught and also that dog makes a full recovery both in body and mind but I’ve got to say as a Bullmastiff owner myself that before everyone jumps on the band wagon and starts committing on and giving bullmastiff’s/mast


iff’s a bad name (once again mistaken identity) that these two dogs are not and cannot be bullmastiffs, she says she encountered a man with two Bullmastiffs, one white and one black. I’m afraid to say that Bullmastiff’s/Mast


iff’s do not come in those colours so I would like it if the news shopper would change their headline to this story (Dog 'ripped to shreds' by Bullmastiff 'killing machine' in Chislehurst Park) because it is simply untrue.
Oldmanhumbug,

May I ask whether you keep your dog on a lead whilst walking?

As for the comment in regards to the colour, what other dog could it have been? I personally have seen a white and a black bullmastiff in the past, and I have just researched this to confirm the identity of these dogs.
Yes i do walk mine on a lead all the time because there are too many people out there that cannot and do not control their dogs i have had to many dogs try to attack mine but like these and other posts show if it’s between a poodle and a bullmastiff/mastiff the later will always be the bad dog. The dogs in question are probably American bulldogs but because i haven't seen them that would only be a guess.

The Bullmastiff/mastiff bred comes in fawn, red and brindle so as for your research can you put the link on where it shows a white bullmastiff if you don't i will presume that you can’t.
[quote][p][bold]Enzo22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldmanhumbug[/bold] wrote: Although this is a very bad incident, both the woman and dog must have been terrified and I hope the man with these dogs is caught and also that dog makes a full recovery both in body and mind but I’ve got to say as a Bullmastiff owner myself that before everyone jumps on the band wagon and starts committing on and giving bullmastiff’s/mast iff’s a bad name (once again mistaken identity) that these two dogs are not and cannot be bullmastiffs, she says she encountered a man with two Bullmastiffs, one white and one black. I’m afraid to say that Bullmastiff’s/Mast iff’s do not come in those colours so I would like it if the news shopper would change their headline to this story (Dog 'ripped to shreds' by Bullmastiff 'killing machine' in Chislehurst Park) because it is simply untrue.[/p][/quote]Oldmanhumbug, May I ask whether you keep your dog on a lead whilst walking? As for the comment in regards to the colour, what other dog could it have been? I personally have seen a white and a black bullmastiff in the past, and I have just researched this to confirm the identity of these dogs.[/p][/quote]Yes i do walk mine on a lead all the time because there are too many people out there that cannot and do not control their dogs i have had to many dogs try to attack mine but like these and other posts show if it’s between a poodle and a bullmastiff/mastiff the later will always be the bad dog. The dogs in question are probably American bulldogs but because i haven't seen them that would only be a guess. The Bullmastiff/mastiff bred comes in fawn, red and brindle so as for your research can you put the link on where it shows a white bullmastiff if you don't i will presume that you can’t. oldmanhumbug
  • Score: 13

8:52am Sun 12 Jan 14

Teaspoon says...

I own a Cocker Spaniel and I never take him anywhere off the lead, I even cross the road to avoid other dogs. My dog is 6 and has been 'had a go at' 5 times since he was a puppy. I am very weary of all 'dangerous' breeds, mastiffs, staffs, bull terriers, I don't care what people say, its always these breeds that attack other dogs and children. I think all dogs should wear muzzles whilst out walking (even mine).
I own a Cocker Spaniel and I never take him anywhere off the lead, I even cross the road to avoid other dogs. My dog is 6 and has been 'had a go at' 5 times since he was a puppy. I am very weary of all 'dangerous' breeds, mastiffs, staffs, bull terriers, I don't care what people say, its always these breeds that attack other dogs and children. I think all dogs should wear muzzles whilst out walking (even mine). Teaspoon
  • Score: 3

1:04pm Sun 12 Jan 14

supershopper says...

Amazing that theres a £1000 fine for leaving dogs mess around and yet you dont get "dog wardens" ensuring safety. Think of the money councils would make. Could rival the profits they make with parking fines.
Amazing that theres a £1000 fine for leaving dogs mess around and yet you dont get "dog wardens" ensuring safety. Think of the money councils would make. Could rival the profits they make with parking fines. supershopper
  • Score: 3

2:56pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Woopsthatwentabitwrong says...

ALL dogs are potentially dangerous. And yes, I agree that the onus lies with the owner to both train them properly, and act with due diligence when the dog is out in public places - or could escape into public places.
However, it is always the same type of doges responsible for attacks - no matter what their general temperament is, they seemingly have the ability to snap, and a dog that usually "cuddles babies" is ripping the face off a child, or attacking a smaller dog.
These dogs I refer to have been bred for hunting and fighting - it's in their DNA, and I find the frequency I read about similar attacks worrying.
I have never read headlines such as " Pug goes mental and rips the face off a toddler", "Poodle escapes and kills Bullmastiff in fit of rage".
Apologies for my lack of specifics in dog breeds, as I am no expert, but I think I made my point as a layman.
ALL dogs are potentially dangerous. And yes, I agree that the onus lies with the owner to both train them properly, and act with due diligence when the dog is out in public places - or could escape into public places. However, it is always the same type of doges responsible for attacks - no matter what their general temperament is, they seemingly have the ability to snap, and a dog that usually "cuddles babies" is ripping the face off a child, or attacking a smaller dog. These dogs I refer to have been bred for hunting and fighting - it's in their DNA, and I find the frequency I read about similar attacks worrying. I have never read headlines such as " Pug goes mental and rips the face off a toddler", "Poodle escapes and kills Bullmastiff in fit of rage". Apologies for my lack of specifics in dog breeds, as I am no expert, but I think I made my point as a layman. Woopsthatwentabitwrong
  • Score: -2

2:01pm Thu 16 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

Woopsthatwentabitwro
ng
wrote:
ALL dogs are potentially dangerous. And yes, I agree that the onus lies with the owner to both train them properly, and act with due diligence when the dog is out in public places - or could escape into public places.
However, it is always the same type of doges responsible for attacks - no matter what their general temperament is, they seemingly have the ability to snap, and a dog that usually "cuddles babies" is ripping the face off a child, or attacking a smaller dog.
These dogs I refer to have been bred for hunting and fighting - it's in their DNA, and I find the frequency I read about similar attacks worrying.
I have never read headlines such as " Pug goes mental and rips the face off a toddler", "Poodle escapes and kills Bullmastiff in fit of rage".
Apologies for my lack of specifics in dog breeds, as I am no expert, but I think I made my point as a layman.
I beg to differ. All breeds may fight. Corgies and Pekes can be particularly aggressive. (As can Poodles.)

The problem comes when you have a large dog with an enormously powerful bite, and with some breeds, jaws which lock.

So yes, you do generally only hear about attacks by certain breeds, simply because of the damage they can do, not because of the number of attacks. Some miniatures are particularly aggressive, and you may see a large dog looking rather sheepish and wondering what to do about the yapping fury leaping around its legs.

But it is down to the owner. Dogs want to please.

There is also the problem with small children being left with any dog. Children too young to understand can be quite unintentionally terribly cruel, or they may take the dog's most prized possession. I would not leave a small child with any pet.
[quote][p][bold]Woopsthatwentabitwro ng[/bold] wrote: ALL dogs are potentially dangerous. And yes, I agree that the onus lies with the owner to both train them properly, and act with due diligence when the dog is out in public places - or could escape into public places. However, it is always the same type of doges responsible for attacks - no matter what their general temperament is, they seemingly have the ability to snap, and a dog that usually "cuddles babies" is ripping the face off a child, or attacking a smaller dog. These dogs I refer to have been bred for hunting and fighting - it's in their DNA, and I find the frequency I read about similar attacks worrying. I have never read headlines such as " Pug goes mental and rips the face off a toddler", "Poodle escapes and kills Bullmastiff in fit of rage". Apologies for my lack of specifics in dog breeds, as I am no expert, but I think I made my point as a layman.[/p][/quote]I beg to differ. All breeds may fight. Corgies and Pekes can be particularly aggressive. (As can Poodles.) The problem comes when you have a large dog with an enormously powerful bite, and with some breeds, jaws which lock. So yes, you do generally only hear about attacks by certain breeds, simply because of the damage they can do, not because of the number of attacks. Some miniatures are particularly aggressive, and you may see a large dog looking rather sheepish and wondering what to do about the yapping fury leaping around its legs. But it is down to the owner. Dogs want to please. There is also the problem with small children being left with any dog. Children too young to understand can be quite unintentionally terribly cruel, or they may take the dog's most prized possession. I would not leave a small child with any pet. flea_in_ear
  • Score: 0

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