Cancellations and delays likely on Southeastern trains all day

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SOUTHEASTERN says the majority of its services have now started running, though there is still widespread disruption due to heavy rains and strong winds overnight.

Trains running across the whole Southeastern network may be cancelled, delayed or revised at short notice. Disruption is expected to last right up until midnight tonight. 

Last night, the company warned that trains would not start until around midday.

In a statement, the company said: "The majority of Metro and Mainline services are now starting to run following the strong winds and heavy rain.

"Network Rail has been assessing the track for damage, flooding and fallen trees and is advising us when it is safe to start running trains.

"There'll be no service between Otford and Maidstone East all day following a landslip at Borough Green and Wrotham."

Visit southeasternrailway.co.uk or follow Se_Railway on Twitter for updates.

 

 

 

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12:13am Fri 27 Dec 13

oBLiVioN 70 says...

How hard can it be to run a metro service between London and Dartford with 3 lines to choose from.

How hard can it be to deal with the obvious problems of a storm by keeping controlled embankments free of trees and the like.

How hard is it to see Gareth Johnson is an idiot for blocking TFL from running the metro services and saying an unelected body will be running our rail? Who elected South Eastern and what is our elected person doing about them?

Boris is not interested in South East London but at least he can see gross incompetence when he sees it and be willing to try to do something about it.
How hard can it be to run a metro service between London and Dartford with 3 lines to choose from. How hard can it be to deal with the obvious problems of a storm by keeping controlled embankments free of trees and the like. How hard is it to see Gareth Johnson is an idiot for blocking TFL from running the metro services and saying an unelected body will be running our rail? Who elected South Eastern and what is our elected person doing about them? Boris is not interested in South East London but at least he can see gross incompetence when he sees it and be willing to try to do something about it. oBLiVioN 70

11:49am Fri 27 Dec 13

mick_a says...

oBLiVioN 70 wrote:
How hard can it be to run a metro service between London and Dartford with 3 lines to choose from.

How hard can it be to deal with the obvious problems of a storm by keeping controlled embankments free of trees and the like.

How hard is it to see Gareth Johnson is an idiot for blocking TFL from running the metro services and saying an unelected body will be running our rail? Who elected South Eastern and what is our elected person doing about them?

Boris is not interested in South East London but at least he can see gross incompetence when he sees it and be willing to try to do something about it.
Don't you read articles before spouting your political claptrap. It quite clearly says, "We will be making every effort to provide you with a train service as soon as NETWORK RAIL gives the 'all clear' and we are permitted to do so" What would you say if they ran the service without the lines being checked and there was an accident with death or injury due to a train hitting storm debris on the line.
[quote][p][bold]oBLiVioN 70[/bold] wrote: How hard can it be to run a metro service between London and Dartford with 3 lines to choose from. How hard can it be to deal with the obvious problems of a storm by keeping controlled embankments free of trees and the like. How hard is it to see Gareth Johnson is an idiot for blocking TFL from running the metro services and saying an unelected body will be running our rail? Who elected South Eastern and what is our elected person doing about them? Boris is not interested in South East London but at least he can see gross incompetence when he sees it and be willing to try to do something about it.[/p][/quote]Don't you read articles before spouting your political claptrap. It quite clearly says, "We will be making every effort to provide you with a train service as soon as NETWORK RAIL gives the 'all clear' and we are permitted to do so" What would you say if they ran the service without the lines being checked and there was an accident with death or injury due to a train hitting storm debris on the line. mick_a

11:53am Fri 27 Dec 13

chris8210 says...

All that had to be done is one line from dartord to be checked, then have replacement bus services from each station going to dartford. or just provide replacement bus service
All that had to be done is one line from dartord to be checked, then have replacement bus services from each station going to dartford. or just provide replacement bus service chris8210

12:11pm Fri 27 Dec 13

oBLiVioN 70 says...

mick_a wrote:
oBLiVioN 70 wrote:
How hard can it be to run a metro service between London and Dartford with 3 lines to choose from.

How hard can it be to deal with the obvious problems of a storm by keeping controlled embankments free of trees and the like.

How hard is it to see Gareth Johnson is an idiot for blocking TFL from running the metro services and saying an unelected body will be running our rail? Who elected South Eastern and what is our elected person doing about them?

Boris is not interested in South East London but at least he can see gross incompetence when he sees it and be willing to try to do something about it.
Don't you read articles before spouting your political claptrap. It quite clearly says, "We will be making every effort to provide you with a train service as soon as NETWORK RAIL gives the 'all clear' and we are permitted to do so" What would you say if they ran the service without the lines being checked and there was an accident with death or injury due to a train hitting storm debris on the line.
have over the years had c2c, great eastern, and the underground as my train provider and apart from the problems with the central line in 2002 I have never seen such a shambolic service on such a regular basis and that's saying something if you remember what c2c was like when it was first privatised.

Fair play if this was a one off but it's any excuse with south eastern.
[quote][p][bold]mick_a[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oBLiVioN 70[/bold] wrote: How hard can it be to run a metro service between London and Dartford with 3 lines to choose from. How hard can it be to deal with the obvious problems of a storm by keeping controlled embankments free of trees and the like. How hard is it to see Gareth Johnson is an idiot for blocking TFL from running the metro services and saying an unelected body will be running our rail? Who elected South Eastern and what is our elected person doing about them? Boris is not interested in South East London but at least he can see gross incompetence when he sees it and be willing to try to do something about it.[/p][/quote]Don't you read articles before spouting your political claptrap. It quite clearly says, "We will be making every effort to provide you with a train service as soon as NETWORK RAIL gives the 'all clear' and we are permitted to do so" What would you say if they ran the service without the lines being checked and there was an accident with death or injury due to a train hitting storm debris on the line.[/p][/quote]have over the years had c2c, great eastern, and the underground as my train provider and apart from the problems with the central line in 2002 I have never seen such a shambolic service on such a regular basis and that's saying something if you remember what c2c was like when it was first privatised. Fair play if this was a one off but it's any excuse with south eastern. oBLiVioN 70

1:35pm Fri 27 Dec 13

splatty1234 says...

mick_a wrote:
oBLiVioN 70 wrote:
How hard can it be to run a metro service between London and Dartford with 3 lines to choose from.

How hard can it be to deal with the obvious problems of a storm by keeping controlled embankments free of trees and the like.

How hard is it to see Gareth Johnson is an idiot for blocking TFL from running the metro services and saying an unelected body will be running our rail? Who elected South Eastern and what is our elected person doing about them?

Boris is not interested in South East London but at least he can see gross incompetence when he sees it and be willing to try to do something about it.
Don't you read articles before spouting your political claptrap. It quite clearly says, "We will be making every effort to provide you with a train service as soon as NETWORK RAIL gives the 'all clear' and we are permitted to do so" What would you say if they ran the service without the lines being checked and there was an accident with death or injury due to a train hitting storm debris on the line.
Understood, however what I don't understand is why Southern, SWT, FCC, C2C and Greater Anglia all had some trains running from 6am today? Why has Network rail singled out Southeastern?

I'm not a weatherman but how can adverse weather be so localized to the SE London / Kent regions?
[quote][p][bold]mick_a[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oBLiVioN 70[/bold] wrote: How hard can it be to run a metro service between London and Dartford with 3 lines to choose from. How hard can it be to deal with the obvious problems of a storm by keeping controlled embankments free of trees and the like. How hard is it to see Gareth Johnson is an idiot for blocking TFL from running the metro services and saying an unelected body will be running our rail? Who elected South Eastern and what is our elected person doing about them? Boris is not interested in South East London but at least he can see gross incompetence when he sees it and be willing to try to do something about it.[/p][/quote]Don't you read articles before spouting your political claptrap. It quite clearly says, "We will be making every effort to provide you with a train service as soon as NETWORK RAIL gives the 'all clear' and we are permitted to do so" What would you say if they ran the service without the lines being checked and there was an accident with death or injury due to a train hitting storm debris on the line.[/p][/quote]Understood, however what I don't understand is why Southern, SWT, FCC, C2C and Greater Anglia all had some trains running from 6am today? Why has Network rail singled out Southeastern? I'm not a weatherman but how can adverse weather be so localized to the SE London / Kent regions? splatty1234

3:16pm Fri 27 Dec 13

SidcupResident says...

As I've said before, vote with your feet and boycott them. Then they'll start to listen. As someone else pointed out before, the only time Southeastern has run a reliable service was when the tender was up for renewable and Southeastern and it's shareholders were scared they were going to lose it.
as soon as they were awarded the tender for another four years, it became a shambles again.

As I've also pointed out before you're better of getting a travelcard as you can use it on any london bus, regardless of the zone it covers. For example if you live in the Bexleyheath/Welling you can get a bus to North Greenwich and the tube it on a zone 1-2 travelcard, which is cheaper than a railcard from Bexleyheath or Welling station, even though you can't even use a railcard on the bus.

As soon as Southeastern start noticing an increasing number of empty seats on their trains, they might just start investing in better services again.
As I've said before, vote with your feet and boycott them. Then they'll start to listen. As someone else pointed out before, the only time Southeastern has run a reliable service was when the tender was up for renewable and Southeastern and it's shareholders were scared they were going to lose it. as soon as they were awarded the tender for another four years, it became a shambles again. As I've also pointed out before you're better of getting a travelcard as you can use it on any london bus, regardless of the zone it covers. For example if you live in the Bexleyheath/Welling you can get a bus to North Greenwich and the tube it on a zone 1-2 travelcard, which is cheaper than a railcard from Bexleyheath or Welling station, even though you can't even use a railcard on the bus. As soon as Southeastern start noticing an increasing number of empty seats on their trains, they might just start investing in better services again. SidcupResident

11:41am Sat 28 Dec 13

SidcupResident says...

Having looked at the 2014 fares, and using Bexley station as an example, I've notice that a season ticket through Southeastern Trains for Bexley station to London Bridge is £1,800.
Or you can get a zone 1-2 travelcard (which can be used on London buses) for £1,256. You can then get the bus to North Greenwich and get the tube, saving £544 a year!
It's worth looking into if your season ticket is coming up for renewal in the New Year.

http://www.tfl.gov.u
k/assets/downloads/t
ube-dlr-lo-adult-far
es-jan-2014.pdf

http://tickets.south
easternrailway.co.uk
/se/en/journeyplanni
ng/seasonmixingdeck
Having looked at the 2014 fares, and using Bexley station as an example, I've notice that a season ticket through Southeastern Trains for Bexley station to London Bridge is £1,800. Or you can get a zone 1-2 travelcard (which can be used on London buses) for £1,256. You can then get the bus to North Greenwich and get the tube, saving £544 a year! It's worth looking into if your season ticket is coming up for renewal in the New Year. http://www.tfl.gov.u k/assets/downloads/t ube-dlr-lo-adult-far es-jan-2014.pdf http://tickets.south easternrailway.co.uk /se/en/journeyplanni ng/seasonmixingdeck SidcupResident

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