Burning politicians in Lewisham - Guy Fawkes fun or 'immature and aggressive'?

News Shopper: Burning politicians in Lewisham - Guy Fawkes fun or 'immature and aggressive'? Burning politicians in Lewisham - Guy Fawkes fun or 'immature and aggressive'?

DAVID Cameron, Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt were all burned in Lewisham this week for a political stunt one politician branded "immature and aggressive".

People Before Profit were amongst the groups who joined the Bonfire of Austerity protest, a national day of action on November 5 which included effigies of MPs being carried through the streets of Lewisham and set alight.

John Hamilton from the group said the aim had been to walk from Catford past all the parts of Lewisham affected by cuts, including the recently saved Lewisham Hospital, highlighting damage caused by austerity.

He said: "I wouldn't normally go around burning pictures of people, it's a bit primitive, but it was Guy Fawkes night.

"It was just a friendly atmosphere actually from all those who took part.

"It wasn't a People Before Profit event but we were very happy to be a part of it."

News Shopper: Burning politicians in Lewisham - Guy Fawkes fun or 'immature and aggressive'?

Alongside the usual suspects, effigies also included Labour politicians Gordon Brown and Ed Balls - seen by protestors as architects of financially-damaging PFI schemes like the one which helped bring about a crisis in the neighbouring South London Healthcare Trust.

Each effigy included a placard, explaining why they had been chosen for the stunt. The event was organised nationally by the People's Assembly group, which held a 2,000-strong protest in Westminster that evening.

But Joe Dromey, a Labour council candidate for New Cross, was highly critical of the stunt.

He said: "Everyone in Lewisham is angry at the devastation the coalition is inflicting on our community. But by burning effigies of politicians this week, People Before Profit went too far.

"This immature and aggressive behaviour should have no place in our local politics."

 

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1:00am Thu 7 Nov 13

pamela8 says...

I think its perfectly acceptable under the circumstances...Afte
r all these politicians have committed the most terrible crimes against Humanity...They have orchestrated the cleansing/cull/murde
r or whatever you want to call it of Thousands of innocent people, They have wrecked communities . ripped families apart..the list is endless..They should be in prison.
I think its perfectly acceptable under the circumstances...Afte r all these politicians have committed the most terrible crimes against Humanity...They have orchestrated the cleansing/cull/murde r or whatever you want to call it of Thousands of innocent people, They have wrecked communities . ripped families apart..the list is endless..They should be in prison. pamela8
  • Score: 5

4:08pm Thu 7 Nov 13

michael@doreenbird.co.uk says...

For whatever reason, it seems to be considered appropriate to burn effigies on 5 November. Given that it happens anyway, I think it's far more appropriate that the effigies are of people who are currently inflicting harm on the local community. Boris Johnson in particular has plans to let the people of Downham and neighbouring areas burn, thanks to his fire station closures.
For whatever reason, it seems to be considered appropriate to burn effigies on 5 November. Given that it happens anyway, I think it's far more appropriate that the effigies are of people who are currently inflicting harm on the local community. Boris Johnson in particular has plans to let the people of Downham and neighbouring areas burn, thanks to his fire station closures. michael@doreenbird.co.uk
  • Score: 3

4:14pm Thu 7 Nov 13

DamianGriffiths says...

Every November 5th in Lewes they burn effigies of politicians as part of the Bonfire Night celebrations. In itself that shouldn't be taken too seriously, or seen as intending actual violence or aggression. The important thing is the political message behind the protest. At a time of recession and growing poverty in Lewisham and places like it, politicians are increasingly supporting the development of an oligarchy who are sheltered from the effects of austerity, while pointing the finger of blame at those on benefits, or immigrants, and expecting them to bear the burden of this crisis. It's up to ordinary people and communities to join together to fight back against this trend for the protection of themselves and democracy.
Every November 5th in Lewes they burn effigies of politicians as part of the Bonfire Night celebrations. In itself that shouldn't be taken too seriously, or seen as intending actual violence or aggression. The important thing is the political message behind the protest. At a time of recession and growing poverty in Lewisham and places like it, politicians are increasingly supporting the development of an oligarchy who are sheltered from the effects of austerity, while pointing the finger of blame at those on benefits, or immigrants, and expecting them to bear the burden of this crisis. It's up to ordinary people and communities to join together to fight back against this trend for the protection of themselves and democracy. DamianGriffiths
  • Score: 2

5:06pm Thu 7 Nov 13

Darkcinders says...

Humanity has been burning effigies of their enemy since before the Ark. I do not accept what Joe Dromey has said. Has he ever been to Lewes on Bonfire night? Had he been there last year he would have seen an effigy of David Cameron and his puppet, Clegg being put to the torch. And I am sure that the crowds would have whooped and cheered. It was no different in Lewisham on Tuesday evening. The effigies which we burnt were only symbols of some of the Cabinet who are all responsible collectively for the cuts and the whole austerity programme. For it's part the Labour Party has a lot to answer for. Nationally and locally the Labour Party is wedded firmly to cuts, cuts and more cuts. So, before you presume to lecture anyone Joe, take a cool bath of humility.
Humanity has been burning effigies of their enemy since before the Ark. I do not accept what Joe Dromey has said. Has he ever been to Lewes on Bonfire night? Had he been there last year he would have seen an effigy of David Cameron and his puppet, Clegg being put to the torch. And I am sure that the crowds would have whooped and cheered. It was no different in Lewisham on Tuesday evening. The effigies which we burnt were only symbols of some of the Cabinet who are all responsible collectively for the cuts and the whole austerity programme. For it's part the Labour Party has a lot to answer for. Nationally and locally the Labour Party is wedded firmly to cuts, cuts and more cuts. So, before you presume to lecture anyone Joe, take a cool bath of humility. Darkcinders
  • Score: 3

8:37pm Thu 7 Nov 13

Pete Sinclair says...

As someone who actually attended the protest, I can assure Joe Dromey that the mood was far from aggressive! It was a good-natured event, using the age-old tradition of burning effigies on Bonfire Night, to highlight the injustice of a system that expects ordinary people to pay the price of a recession that was caused by the greed and recklessness of the bankers.

Given the misery and suffering that the cuts have caused to people's lives, burning a few effigies of the politicians who have allowed it to happen seems a pretty mild response. Let's not forget that it was only the determined opposition of the local community that stopped Jeremy Hunt from closing Lewisham A&E. Come along next time there's a protest Joe and talk to some of the community you hope to represent. You might get a better understanding of people's mood.
As someone who actually attended the protest, I can assure Joe Dromey that the mood was far from aggressive! It was a good-natured event, using the age-old tradition of burning effigies on Bonfire Night, to highlight the injustice of a system that expects ordinary people to pay the price of a recession that was caused by the greed and recklessness of the bankers. Given the misery and suffering that the cuts have caused to people's lives, burning a few effigies of the politicians who have allowed it to happen seems a pretty mild response. Let's not forget that it was only the determined opposition of the local community that stopped Jeremy Hunt from closing Lewisham A&E. Come along next time there's a protest Joe and talk to some of the community you hope to represent. You might get a better understanding of people's mood. Pete Sinclair
  • Score: 2

10:45am Fri 8 Nov 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Should of burnt an effigy of fatty Nick Griffin. Cant wait until next year. stick a fork in Griffin he's done.
Should of burnt an effigy of fatty Nick Griffin. Cant wait until next year. stick a fork in Griffin he's done. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 0

12:58pm Fri 8 Nov 13

DinoFish says...

Seems reasonable enough to me, and nothing new as many comments have noted.

The MP/Council candidate needs to get over himself. There's plenty of '...immature and aggressive behaviour....' in the real world to be '...highly critical...' of.
Seems reasonable enough to me, and nothing new as many comments have noted. The MP/Council candidate needs to get over himself. There's plenty of '...immature and aggressive behaviour....' in the real world to be '...highly critical...' of. DinoFish
  • Score: 2

4:28am Sat 9 Nov 13

sarfflondonbird says...

Should thank his lucky stars the wasn't an effigy of him on parade that night........silly old fool. And he claims to represent the mere peasants does he?
Should thank his lucky stars the wasn't an effigy of him on parade that night........silly old fool. And he claims to represent the mere peasants does he? sarfflondonbird
  • Score: 2

10:29am Sat 9 Nov 13

hungerpains2 says...

The masses are starting to revolt!
The masses are starting to revolt! hungerpains2
  • Score: 1

5:16pm Sat 9 Nov 13

SE London Activist says...

Aaah don't the Tories like it? Well we don't like what their doing to the Country!
Aaah don't the Tories like it? Well we don't like what their doing to the Country! SE London Activist
  • Score: 1

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