Southeastern trains delayed due to wintry weather (From News Shopper)

Here we go again, flutter of snow, Southeastern services collapses.

Ho ho ho.

According to my (very sad) trainsarecrap data (https://docs.google
.com/spreadsheet/ccc
?key=0ArWgruVSfa8CdD
NGaHRCN0RYdVRNbk92Y1
lIbnk4YkE) its now been exactly 2 months since southeastern have managed to get me where they promised, when they promised. (by the common definition of 'then', not the special railway definition).

At least the prices wont go up next year... oh wait!

Ha ha, that's not sad - that's genius. Wish I'd thought of it.

I've pinged off a complaint to South Eastern trains this morning, about their epic sh!tness when it comes to my service into London Waterloo East.... let's see how they respond (although I wish I had exact data like yours to back me up!)

Hi,
Very easily collected - just got a Android app called Memento which lets you record stuff like this and sync to google docs... im not going to bother complaining, cause unless its more than half hour late (even on a 25 min journey), you are entitled to nothing at all back.

I've said it before but bus and tube it if you can.

The only way Southeastern will take notice is if people vote with their feet. The more people that boycott their services, the more chance they'll have of losing the tender when it comes up for renewal.

Have a look at the TFL site (www.TFL.gov.uk) and try and work out an alternative journey. It probably won't take you longer to get to work but at least you know you'll get there, and you'll save money.

SidcupResident, if you can find me a way to get from Dartford to London Waterloo East (at a stretch I could do Crayford) then I'd bite your arm off....but I can see no alternative.

Any suggestions welcome....

Dartbored wrote:
Ha ha, that's not sad - that's genius. Wish I'd thought of it.

I've pinged off a complaint to South Eastern trains this morning, about their epic sh!tness when it comes to my service into London Waterloo East.... let's see how they respond (although I wish I had exact data like yours to back me up!)

I set an email to SET last Thursday morning...... Still not had a reply.

Well it took me almost 2 hours to get from my bus stop (outside my house) to my actual work. Bus delayed to get me to Abbey Wood Station. Miss 2 trains by the time I get to the station (that's if they were running!), should be a train due - get in station - that is cancelled. Next one not due for another 15 mins. That is then delayed. Cant even get close to that when it comes in cos short train and too many people. Next one comes in -should be a 'fast' train. Isnt fast cos following previous train up the track - get into London Bridge 15 mins later than the train was due. Get to work at 10.15!

This all happened when in fact at Abbey Wood and surrounding areas there wasnt actually any snow on the ground and we had only had a few flutters!

God forbid we get some real snow!

Dartbored wrote:
SidcupResident, if you can find me a way to get from Dartford to London Waterloo East (at a stretch I could do Crayford) then I'd bite your arm off....but I can see no alternative.

Any suggestions welcome....

Like I said, it depends where you live.

If you want to save money I would suggest getting a zone 1-4 Oyster/travelcard, get the 96 from Dartford to Welling (30 mins), then train from there.

Or if you wish to avoid Southestern altogether:

Get a zone 1-2 Oyster/travelcard, get a 96 to Welling (30 mins), then a 486 to North Greenwich (30 mins), then tube (15 mins).

I would strongly recommend to anyone checking the TFL journey planner for alternative journeys, ways of saving money/ avoiding Southeastern.

If you live in Bexley, Greenwich or Lewisham bussing and tubing it should be a doddle and cost about 50% less than Southeastern.

Give it a try at the very least. You've got nothing to lose.

the wall wrote:

Dartbored wrote:
Ha ha, that's not sad - that's genius. Wish I'd thought of it.

I've pinged off a complaint to South Eastern trains this morning, about their epic sh!tness when it comes to my service into London Waterloo East.... let's see how they respond (although I wish I had exact data like yours to back me up!)

I set an email to SET last Thursday morning...... Still not had a reply.

I've written to them in the past and they normally reply, eventually, but it's formulaic responses that never really answer the question (copy and paste anyone?) - you don't then have the option to then query the response so you then have to start a whole new form on the website.

It's about as frustrating as their train service and obviously designed to deter people from actually giving feedback.

SidcupResident wrote:

Dartbored wrote:
SidcupResident, if you can find me a way to get from Dartford to London Waterloo East (at a stretch I could do Crayford) then I'd bite your arm off....but I can see no alternative.

Any suggestions welcome....

Like I said, it depends where you live.

If you want to save money I would suggest getting a zone 1-4 Oyster/travelcard, get the 96 from Dartford to Welling (30 mins), then train from there.

Or if you wish to avoid Southestern altogether:

Get a zone 1-2 Oyster/travelcard, get a 96 to Welling (30 mins), then a 486 to North Greenwich (30 mins), then tube (15 mins).

I would strongly recommend to anyone checking the TFL journey planner for alternative journeys, ways of saving money/ avoiding Southeastern.

If you live in Bexley, Greenwich or Lewisham bussing and tubing it should be a doddle and cost about 50% less than Southeastern.

Give it a try at the very least. You've got nothing to lose.

Appreciate your efforts Sidcup resident, but I think I'm just too far out for a realistic alternative to Southeastern.

The quoted journey time (above) is 1hr 15mins which doesn't account for any hold ups on the roads or the length of time waiting for the buses. In reality, it'll be nearer 1hr 45mins....which compares to 36 minutes on the train.

Dartbored wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

Dartbored wrote:
SidcupResident, if you can find me a way to get from Dartford to London Waterloo East (at a stretch I could do Crayford) then I'd bite your arm off....but I can see no alternative.

Any suggestions welcome....

Like I said, it depends where you live.

If you want to save money I would suggest getting a zone 1-4 Oyster/travelcard, get the 96 from Dartford to Welling (30 mins), then train from there.

Or if you wish to avoid Southestern altogether:

Get a zone 1-2 Oyster/travelcard, get a 96 to Welling (30 mins), then a 486 to North Greenwich (30 mins), then tube (15 mins).

I would strongly recommend to anyone checking the TFL journey planner for alternative journeys, ways of saving money/ avoiding Southeastern.

If you live in Bexley, Greenwich or Lewisham bussing and tubing it should be a doddle and cost about 50% less than Southeastern.

Give it a try at the very least. You've got nothing to lose.

Appreciate your efforts Sidcup resident, but I think I'm just too far out for a realistic alternative to Southeastern.

The quoted journey time (above) is 1hr 15mins which doesn't account for any hold ups on the roads or the length of time waiting for the buses. In reality, it'll be nearer 1hr 45mins....which compares to 36 minutes on the train.

Yeah, sorry I couldn't help but Dartford is a bit of a mission.

I've often considered moving to Dartford but the transport costs soon eat in the savings from housing costs.

A little bit of snow - which was forecast - and disruption to trains

What happens when we get a proper lot

That's ok SidcupResident, no need to apologise :-)

We used to live in Bexleyheath but moved to the dark side a few years ago (mainly over schools) and.... whisper it quietly, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as I was led to believe. The High Street is awful, don't get me wrong, but we've really settled here and we far prefer it to the 'Heath, (shops aside)

Ironically - given the story - if it snows I've actually got a better chance of getting into London from Dartford, as I can pick from three lines.