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MP David Evennett 'disgraceful' for voting against same sex marriage (From News Shopper)
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Bexleyheath and Crayford MP David Evennett 'disgraceful' for voting against same sex marriage
9:55am Wednesday 28th November 2012 in News By Alan Woods
David Evennett.
MP DAVID Evennett has been branded "disgraceful" after announcing he will vote against plans to legalise same sex marriage.
The Bexleyheath and Crayford MP confirmed he would not be backing David Cameron’s plans to allow gay marriage when the controversial vote reaches parliament next year.
More than 110 of the 303 Conservative MPs are thought to be planning to oppose the bill in what could be the biggest Tory rebellion of modern times.
Bexley Councillor Stefano Borella, who is openly gay, was among those who has slammed Mr Evennett’s decision.
The North End ward councillor told News Shopper: "I think it’s disgraceful - I don’t see why any MP should be voting against it.
"It’s going to give the wrong message as there are a large number of people in the community who want to see their elected politicians taking a lead on this.
"I’m disappointed he will vote against it but it’s a free vote so he is entitled to his view.
"I just feel we should be supporting it and that this is another step forward."
In a statement to News Shopper, Mr Evennett, who is a government whip, said: "I, personally, am a strong supporter of traditional marriage and will not be voting in favour of any changes."
It has been reported the Prime Minister is now planning to fast-track the bill through Parliament and the free-vote could come as early as January.
A free-vote prevents ministers from facing disciplinary action if they vote against David Cameron’s position.
Several Bexley church-goers travel to the gay-friendly Metropolitan Community Church in Camden, where Charlton resident Reverend Sharon Ferguson works.
The 54-year-old said: "I hope and pray David Evennett will reconsider how he is going to vote.
"If not, I think people - and not just the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community - will have to think again.
"If their MP is going to vote against an equality vote like this, what other equality issues is he likely to vote against?"
The Metro Centre is a voluntary organisation that meets weekly in Bexley for youngsters to discuss issues relating to their sexuality.
Communications director Patricia Durr said: "As a service provider to the young lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community in Bexley we’re saddened this is the message going out about equality.
"We know from the work we do that same sex marriage matters to the young people of Bexley."
Comments(56)
ron.1952
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10:54am Wed 28 Nov 12
Ron xx
Rev. Sue Scottley
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2:15pm Wed 28 Nov 12
PaulErith
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2:27pm Wed 28 Nov 12
However, I don't really think it's fair to call him disgraceful. There's a vote on it, and hence he does have the right to vote the way he believes. When you vote in an MP, you're giving them a mandate to do just that. You're voting for that person because, broadly, they will share your beliefs. However, he can't keep every one of his constituents happy. You're probably not going to agree with everything that he does. If you don't like it, then vote him out at the next election.
ksc
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3:37pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Speaking hypothetically if it's OK for same sex marriages then who would have the right to speak up against a man or woman getting legally married to his or her dog, why would that be wrong, they would both love each other and would both want to spend the rest of their lives together, but I bet those for and against same sex marriage would be dead set against that.
But of course this is my personal view just like Mr Evennett's view and the views of people in the comments above, and as we all know, just because my view is different to your view, that doesn't make me a bad person, or automatically wrong.
Tip-Top
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5:03pm Wed 28 Nov 12
dizzy13
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5:52pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Gypo.Joe
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6:50pm Wed 28 Nov 12
ksc wrote:Old fashioned, in a word YES.
Is marriage not something special, not,if some people get their way, I know it's an old fashion view, but I like the idea of a man and woman getting married, political correctness dictates that you're not meant to discriminate, and if two men or two woman want to get married then so be it, which, I believe dilutes the whole sanctity of marriage thing.
Speaking hypothetically if it's OK for same sex marriages then who would have the right to speak up against a man or woman getting legally married to his or her dog, why would that be wrong, they would both love each other and would both want to spend the rest of their lives together, but I bet those for and against same sex marriage would be dead set against that.
But of course this is my personal view just like Mr Evennett's view and the views of people in the comments above, and as we all know, just because my view is different to your view, that doesn't make me a bad person, or automatically wrong.
I'm all for equal rights, because that's what this issue is all about. If two men or women want to marry who cares, there's lots more important things to deal with.
ron.1952
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9:32pm Wed 28 Nov 12
Please explain how ksc ?
Ron
goldenbroomboy
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9:45am Thu 29 Nov 12
ron.1952
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10:34am Thu 29 Nov 12
goldenbroomboy wrote:How much you wanna bet me GBB.
A "Gay" marriage cannot be consummated (I mean consummation, not penetration), so the concept is a pc farce.
I'll soon put you straight mate. No pun intended.
Ron.
goldenbroomboy
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1:32pm Thu 29 Nov 12
ron.1952 wrote:Ron, reproduction without a female is very difficult.
goldenbroomboy wrote: A "Gay" marriage cannot be consummated (I mean consummation, not penetration), so the concept is a pc farce.How much you wanna bet me GBB. I'll soon put you straight mate. No pun intended. Ron.
ron.1952
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4:03pm Thu 29 Nov 12
I agree withg Joe G, this is all about equal rights anyway.
Ron
MsChevious
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5:35pm Thu 29 Nov 12
ksc wrote:ksc, you really should change your username to WTF.
Is marriage not something special, not,if some people get their way, I know it's an old fashion view, but I like the idea of a man and woman getting married, political correctness dictates that you're not meant to discriminate, and if two men or two woman want to get married then so be it, which, I believe dilutes the whole sanctity of marriage thing. Speaking hypothetically if it's OK for same sex marriages then who would have the right to speak up against a man or woman getting legally married to his or her dog, why would that be wrong, they would both love each other and would both want to spend the rest of their lives together, but I bet those for and against same sex marriage would be dead set against that. But of course this is my personal view just like Mr Evennett's view and the views of people in the comments above, and as we all know, just because my view is different to your view, that doesn't make me a bad person, or automatically wrong.
Comparing same-sex marriage to **** is ridiculous. You've lost straight away because you are clearly incapable of making a proper argument.
As another of Mr Evennett's constituants I'm appauled - all the opinion polls which only ask UK residents and only let each person 'vote' once (not those run by the Campaign for Marriage by the way...) show an overwhelming majority support equal marriage. His mandate is to represent the views of his constituants, not his own out-dated prejudices.
MsChevious
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5:37pm Thu 29 Nov 12
b e a s t i a l i t y
That told me!
planetx
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10:23pm Thu 29 Nov 12
ron.1952
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10:30pm Thu 29 Nov 12
planetx wrote:Run along back to planet x, that's where you belong.
Marriage is always has been always will be between a man and a woman, no matter what the law may say. A vote for so called gay marriage is a vote for a vile perversion.
Ron
Beckenham Chris
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10:37pm Thu 29 Nov 12
Beckenham Chris
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10:40pm Thu 29 Nov 12
goldenbroomboy wrote:Have you not heard of Felching ? That just about does it ! (apparantly)
A "Gay" marriage cannot be consummated (I mean consummation, not penetration), so the concept is a pc farce.
Beckenham Chris
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10:44pm Thu 29 Nov 12
planetx wrote:Crafty Butcher ?
Marriage is always has been always will be between a man and a woman, no matter what the law may say. A vote for so called gay marriage is a vote for a vile perversion.
ron.1952
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10:49pm Thu 29 Nov 12
Beckenham Chris wrote:Gee up ! Whoa back ! All the way to Brighton.
whatever next ? What about if a gay man wants to marry his horse will that be allowed ?
Ron x
MsChevious
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9:48am Fri 30 Nov 12
planetx wrote:Except that's not true. Even in the Bible marriage was sometimes between one man and several women; one man and his female slaves (who weren't allowed to say no); or one man and a female child (as girls could be married off by their families then)
Marriage is always has been always will be between a man and a woman, no matter what the law may say. A vote for so called gay marriage is a vote for a vile perversion.
So, you see, the law has moved with the times and so should you!
ron.1952
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11:49am Fri 30 Nov 12
Ron
toomush2drink
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6:38pm Fri 30 Nov 12
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/uk/407506.stm
That article was in 1999 so no doubt the defence will be things have changed since then in which case why cant two gay people get married too ?
Christianity equals hypocrites at their worst.
Planetx its time to move with the times.
Religion is big business lets not forget that.
The church of englands property portfolio was worth £1.6 billion in december 2010-
Total assets are running at over £4 billion.
No wonder they dont want a few gays ruining the gravy train.
Do they still do the collection thing every sunday ? I wonder why ?
Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott
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6:41pm Fri 30 Nov 12
toomush2drink wrote:One must not confuse Christianity with the politics of the Roman Catholic or Church of England ideology.
So th christian values are no to gay marriage eh ? Sex offenders are ok though are they ?
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/uk/407506.stm
That article was in 1999 so no doubt the defence will be things have changed since then in which case why cant two gay people get married too ?
Christianity equals hypocrites at their worst.
Planetx its time to move with the times.
Religion is big business lets not forget that.
The church of englands property portfolio was worth £1.6 billion in december 2010-
Total assets are running at over £4 billion.
No wonder they dont want a few gays ruining the gravy train.
Do they still do the collection thing every sunday ? I wonder why ?
jeff onions
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10:43am Sat 1 Dec 12
just because a couple of bro-mancers like pigott and joe get all frisky in december with the thought of the pending xmas quiz and xmas goose stoo is not a reason for a sensinble rational mp to make the correct decision!!!!
jeff....single and available to - rite chicks under 40! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaar!!!!
!
planetx
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11:44pm Sat 1 Dec 12
paulbexleyheath
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9:00am Sun 2 Dec 12
wake up man . get with it . times are changing . ****.
Bob Downondiss
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3:15pm Sun 2 Dec 12
planetx
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6:31am Mon 3 Dec 12
Bob Downondiss
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10:25am Mon 3 Dec 12
Now on your knees MF.
ron.1952
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11:27am Mon 3 Dec 12
Ronny.
ron.1952
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11:35am Mon 3 Dec 12
Is the earth still flat in your world ?
Ron
Marty1979
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10:32pm Mon 3 Dec 12
There are specific gay pubs (whilst straight people aren't actually banned, it's clear they aren't welcome)
A firm I worked for actually had a "club" just for gay people
And a gay bloke who worked there said to a number of us "the thought of sex with a woman makes me physically sick" . Well obviously his father must have had sex with a woman....
Just imagine if a straight person had made a similar comment
rarecockneyguvnor
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10:49am Tue 4 Dec 12
Charles Darwin.
Just about says it all, change, deal with it or die out homophobes.
planetx
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2:52pm Tue 4 Dec 12
rarecockneyguvnor
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3:19pm Tue 4 Dec 12
Now think about this, you really believe we are all decended from Adam and Eve right. So Adam and Eve have a few children, so those children must have had incestous relations with either each other or their parents. Am I Right ? So in denying evolution you believe incest occourred. Well I never, what strange going on in your world.
Perhaps you can go ask that friend in the sky for your answer.
planetx
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3:38pm Tue 4 Dec 12
Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott
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3:49pm Tue 4 Dec 12
e.
Get wise, son.
rarecockneyguvnor
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7:46pm Tue 4 Dec 12
planetx wrote:Obsessed well I'm surprised you could spell the word.
have not got a friend in the sky don't know where you get the idea from you really are obsessed
Now answer me please about the incest regarding Adam and Eve and their childrens on going procreation ?
PS capital letters and full stops would help your posts. Have you thought about Sunday skool.
planetx
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11:38pm Tue 4 Dec 12
planetx
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11:38pm Tue 4 Dec 12
rarecockneyguvnor
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12:03am Wed 5 Dec 12
planetx wrote:Steady now you're gettting an itchy trigger finger posting twice.
you still didn't answer my question
I await your answer about Adam and Eve and their childrens incest.
Come along now don't be shy, what does your good book tell you about it pray tell. Or perhaps 'him' upstairs will tell you if you ask nice.
andygino
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12:10am Wed 5 Dec 12
There are civil partnerships are available for gay couples as a non religious ceremony.
Marriage in a church is should reflect the Christian message of a life long commitment between a man and women with the hope of procreation.
As far as I know, there’s no evidence from any biblical scholar within the last two thousand years than condones the marriage of two men or women within the gospels.
The Church is not supposed to be 'in this world' and follow the latest rantings of Stonewall and mischief making atheists, but continue the timeless message of Christ's teachings down the generations to be swayed by any social metropolitan fashion of the day.
rarecockneyguvnor
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1:04am Wed 5 Dec 12
Lots of people starving around the world and the church is one of most countries largest land owners, lets not even go there about the Pope mincing around around in robes fit for any monarch and red Prada shoes. Ohh the hypocrisy of the church.
gemmy
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1:01pm Wed 5 Dec 12
andygino wrote:A Civil partnership is different from a marriage, even if the ceremony is a non-religious ceremony, if it was the same as a 'marriage' it would be an option for a hetrosexual couple. I know this from experience as I share a house with a man that I am not romantically linked, we wanted to protect our joint assets but were told we would have to marry as Civil Partnership is not a legal option for us.
He's absolutely right opposing gay marriage.
There are civil partnerships are available for gay couples as a non religious ceremony.
Marriage in a church is should reflect the Christian message of a life long commitment between a man and women with the hope of procreation.
As far as I know, there’s no evidence from any biblical scholar within the last two thousand years than condones the marriage of two men or women within the gospels.
The Church is not supposed to be 'in this world' and follow the latest rantings of Stonewall and mischief making atheists, but continue the timeless message of Christ's teachings down the generations to be swayed by any social metropolitan fashion of the day.
dizzy13
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9:38pm Wed 5 Dec 12
planetx
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10:55pm Wed 5 Dec 12
rarecockneyguvnor
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11:06am Thu 6 Dec 12
I'll try to explain about your imaginary friend........sit down now this may be a shock.......ready ..........its your so called God. The figment of your imagination.
Beckenham Chris
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10:26pm Sun 9 Dec 12
Beckenham Chris
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1:37pm Mon 10 Dec 12
and " let any man who is not a crafty buthcher stand now before me with his piece in his hand Amen"
Gypo.Joe
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4:04pm Mon 10 Dec 12
thAnK yoU
Beckenham Chris
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5:32pm Mon 10 Dec 12
Gypo.Joe wrote:Gypo - No I am not although I see that many on here are drivers on the Marmite Motoway on their way to drop Anchor at Poo Bay.
Beckenham Chris are you a closet turd burglar by chance ?
thAnK yoU
Gypo.Joe
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10:59am Thu 13 Dec 12
Tip-Top
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11:06am Thu 13 Dec 12
Gypo.Joe
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11:59am Thu 13 Dec 12
Luvley jubbly.
ron.1952 says...
10:50am Wed 28 Nov 12
I have an idea for people like you Evennet, if you don't like gay marriage dont marry a gay guy/girl.
I don't fuss over who you want to marry so why would you be bothered who a gay person wants to marry.