Lewisham Cycle Superhighway CS5 plans being cut short is a 'sad cop-out'

News Shopper: Chairman of Lewisham Cyclists Roger Stocker Chairman of Lewisham Cyclists Roger Stocker

CYCLISTS from Lewisham and Greenwich have had their hopes punctured after Cycle Superhighway plans were cut short in a "sad cop-out".

Barclays Cycle Superhighway CS5 - set to link London Victoria with Lewisham town centre next year - has been scaled back to end at New Cross Gate instead.

The promised cycling route was one of 12 launched by TfL in a bid to get commuters biking into London on safer, clearly-marked trails.

TfL says the path was cut short because of "physical constraints" - such as the highly complicated New Cross gyratory system.

Lewisham Cyclists chairman Roger Stocker said: "The trouble is - finishing at New Cross Gate you are stuffed.

"It is just like stopping there and saying ‘good luck’.

"I think they have looked at it and found out it wasn’t that easy and instead of addressing the issue, they have decided to ditch it.

"Boris is saying you have got to get out to the outer areas so it is probably a big embarrassment to his administration - but on the plus side they are looking at safety."

The 55-year-old added that there was mixed reaction among the cycling community as some feel Superhighways are just "blue paint".

The news has sparked fears the Woolwich to London Bridge CS4 Superhighway- set to come in by 2015 - may also be scrapped.

This route would have to deal with cycle obstacles such as the Woolwich Road flyover and the Greenwich one-way system.

Greenwich Cyclists Coordinator Anthony Austin, 67, said: "Superhighway 5 was never going to directly affect us, but it comes so close that cyclists in this area would have used it. "It is, in our view, a very sad cop-out.

"We are very sorry for it. I am now concerned that a similar decision about Superhighway 4 Woolwich to London Bridge. "They have gone very quiet about that."

He added that with no Boris Bikes in the borough and ongoing problems with the Greenwich and Woolwich foot-tunnels, cycling opportunities are passing residents by.

Leader of the Liberal Democrat London Assembly Group Caroline Pidgeon AM said: "Just one week after the Mayor and TfL were boasting about the new Victoria to Lewisham Superhighway we now discover that the plans have been seriously scaled back.

"The excuses for not linking the Superhighway to Lewisham show a total lack of ambition by Transport for London.

"This foolish decision suggests the Mayor of London is not really serious about introducing Dutch-style cycling infrastructure across London."

A TfL spokeswoman said: "As design progressed, it became increasingly apparent that in order to fulfil the mayor’s commitment to ensure the Cycle Superhighway is of sufficient high quality, physical constraints along this stretch would limit our ability to complete the route to these top standards.

"We are still very much committed to delivering significant cycling improvements on this same part of the A20, East of New Cross."

She added that the route would still have better cycling facilities including 0.7km of new mandatory cycle lanes and substantial resurfacing of the roads.

A Lewisham Council spokesman said the news was "disappointing" and council officers would be meeting with TfL to discuss their decision.

12 cyclists have already died on London's roads this year.

Cycle Superhighway Safety measures include:

  • The cycle lanes are up to 15km long and 1.5m wide and continue through junctions
  • Re-designed junctions
  • Advanced stop lines 
  • Blind spot visibility mirrors 
  • New cycle parking spaces
  • Free or subsidised commuter cycle training

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3:54pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott says...

Cyclists. Don't you just hate 'em?
Cyclists. Don't you just hate 'em? Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott
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7:13pm Mon 19 Nov 12

zampa says...

Oh well, sh** happens. Now they know how drivers feel when they pay over priced insurance, high petrol prices and pot holes that damage their cars. And cyclists don't pay a thing! Just join the queue with the rest of us.
Oh well, sh** happens. Now they know how drivers feel when they pay over priced insurance, high petrol prices and pot holes that damage their cars. And cyclists don't pay a thing! Just join the queue with the rest of us. zampa
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11:20am Tue 20 Nov 12

Gypo.Joe says...

Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott wrote:
Cyclists. Don't you just hate 'em?
I don't mind young laydeez on bicycles.

Eye candy, well most times.


Lucky old saddle.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold] wrote: Cyclists. Don't you just hate 'em?[/p][/quote]I don't mind young laydeez on bicycles. Eye candy, well most times. Lucky old saddle. Gypo.Joe
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6:59pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Sir Velo says...

Zampa you pay no more for the roads than a cyclist does. That's because roads are paid for out of general taxation. What a motorist pays is not road tax but vehicle excise duty which is based on emissions, which is why cyclists don't pay what you quaintly call "Road Tax".
Zampa you pay no more for the roads than a cyclist does. That's because roads are paid for out of general taxation. What a motorist pays is not road tax but vehicle excise duty which is based on emissions, which is why cyclists don't pay what you quaintly call "Road Tax". Sir Velo
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8:33pm Tue 20 Nov 12

roggie_s says...

Good to see a high level debate. All that's being asked is for roads safe for all users, pedestrians, cyclists, motor vehicles. A major problem in London is air pollution which causes major health problems (show me a junior school without a asthma problem) mainly caused by motor vehicle fumes. Not to mention obesity and type 2 diabetes caused by physical inactivity. Somehow we all need to cut down vehicle emissions and be more active. One way is to encourage people to cycle and a majority of car journeys in London are less than 5 miles.
Good to see a high level debate. All that's being asked is for roads safe for all users, pedestrians, cyclists, motor vehicles. A major problem in London is air pollution which causes major health problems (show me a junior school without a asthma problem) mainly caused by motor vehicle fumes. Not to mention obesity and type 2 diabetes caused by physical inactivity. Somehow we all need to cut down vehicle emissions and be more active. One way is to encourage people to cycle and a majority of car journeys in London are less than 5 miles. roggie_s
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7:31am Wed 21 Nov 12

jar adras says...

Sir Velo wrote:
Zampa you pay no more for the roads than a cyclist does. That's because roads are paid for out of general taxation. What a motorist pays is not road tax but vehicle excise duty which is based on emissions, which is why cyclists don't pay what you quaintly call "Road Tax".
Misinformation from you, Zampa is right the fact is:

In 2010 UK drivers paid £5 b in road tax and the government spent just under £9.5b on our roads. But add the other motoring taxes - like fuel taxes, motorists paid about £27b in total, so money does not come from general taxation but from motorists and the cyclists do not make any contribution !
[quote][p][bold]Sir Velo[/bold] wrote: Zampa you pay no more for the roads than a cyclist does. That's because roads are paid for out of general taxation. What a motorist pays is not road tax but vehicle excise duty which is based on emissions, which is why cyclists don't pay what you quaintly call "Road Tax".[/p][/quote]Misinformation from you, Zampa is right the fact is: In 2010 UK drivers paid £5 b in road tax and the government spent just under £9.5b on our roads. But add the other motoring taxes - like fuel taxes, motorists paid about £27b in total, so money does not come from general taxation but from motorists and the cyclists do not make any contribution ! jar adras
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12:15pm Wed 21 Nov 12

premierfella says...

jar adras wrote:
Sir Velo wrote: Zampa you pay no more for the roads than a cyclist does. That's because roads are paid for out of general taxation. What a motorist pays is not road tax but vehicle excise duty which is based on emissions, which is why cyclists don't pay what you quaintly call "Road Tax".
Misinformation from you, Zampa is right the fact is: In 2010 UK drivers paid £5 b in road tax and the government spent just under £9.5b on our roads. But add the other motoring taxes - like fuel taxes, motorists paid about £27b in total, so money does not come from general taxation but from motorists and the cyclists do not make any contribution !
Nice to see this thread being sidetracked down the same old taxes route (following the logic, all that revenue from tobacco taxes should surely only be spent on smokers then?)

Getting back to the actual story, I'm more concerned about the fact that TFL's actions imply that they consider the New Cross - Lewisham stretch of road dangerous for cyclists and that they are incapable of implementing a safe solution that would fit with Boris's election pledges.
[quote][p][bold]jar adras[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Velo[/bold] wrote: Zampa you pay no more for the roads than a cyclist does. That's because roads are paid for out of general taxation. What a motorist pays is not road tax but vehicle excise duty which is based on emissions, which is why cyclists don't pay what you quaintly call "Road Tax".[/p][/quote]Misinformation from you, Zampa is right the fact is: In 2010 UK drivers paid £5 b in road tax and the government spent just under £9.5b on our roads. But add the other motoring taxes - like fuel taxes, motorists paid about £27b in total, so money does not come from general taxation but from motorists and the cyclists do not make any contribution ![/p][/quote]Nice to see this thread being sidetracked down the same old taxes route (following the logic, all that revenue from tobacco taxes should surely only be spent on smokers then?) Getting back to the actual story, I'm more concerned about the fact that TFL's actions imply that they consider the New Cross - Lewisham stretch of road dangerous for cyclists and that they are incapable of implementing a safe solution that would fit with Boris's election pledges. premierfella
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9:26pm Sat 24 Nov 12

roggie_s says...

We won't factor in the health costs associated with motor vehicle emissions through poor air quality, deaths and serious injuries caused by motor collisions and much more. Just look how many people are killed on the roads every day. What will we do when Iran close the straights and the price of oil foes sky high? The can't keep burning the earths resources without thinking of what to do next. Ah electric cars of course lets build a few more gas power stations and rely on the Russians or fracking. But hey, that's a problem for the next generation.
I think this is getting slightly off topic and not too much to do with the New Cross gyratory.
We won't factor in the health costs associated with motor vehicle emissions through poor air quality, deaths and serious injuries caused by motor collisions and much more. Just look how many people are killed on the roads every day. What will we do when Iran close the straights and the price of oil foes sky high? The can't keep burning the earths resources without thinking of what to do next. Ah electric cars of course lets build a few more gas power stations and rely on the Russians or fracking. But hey, that's a problem for the next generation. I think this is getting slightly off topic and not too much to do with the New Cross gyratory. roggie_s
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11:07pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Teri-cyclist says...

I think they ARE just a waste of blue paint... most cars just park in them... I shall continue to OVERTAKE you stationery motorists who are going nowhere cos there's too many of you!
I think they ARE just a waste of blue paint... most cars just park in them... I shall continue to OVERTAKE you stationery motorists who are going nowhere cos there's too many of you! Teri-cyclist
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