Ladywell train passenger punched in front of wife and child after challenging swearing commuter (From News Shopper)

Post this weazels face at evey train station up until he got off, he will soon get caught. Only sorry the man got hurt standing up to this excuse for a human being!

I've often challenged people on buses and trains - to be fair, it's normally gobby teenagers playing music through their phones - and the thing that annoys me is the lack of back up from other passengers.

Everyone sits there tutting and mumbling, and then when you do challenge the person - everybody hides behind their paper.

Co-incidentally, I also have a six year old kid as and my wife always moans at me for challenging people, saying I'll get stabbed one day - but what other choice do we have as a society - just let these idiots get away with it, and just cower away?

So well done to the dad for having the b*lls to stand up to this lowlife, I just wish more people would.

I think it's disgusting that passengers can't travel safely on public transport. I was mugged for my mobile phone on the same train line on Sunday evening 4th November 2012 & when I got off at charing cross & reported the worker that I reported it too didnt even care! I have reported it to the police, I was right under the CCTV & hope the f%$ker is caught!

How nice it would be to do a Charles Bronson Death Wish job on the likes of this scum.

I'm sure that anyone who gunned down a piece of filth like this would be given a standing round of applause by the rest of the commuters.

Unfortunately, if caught 'Bronson' would be sent to prison instead of being given what he really deserved: a very big medal and a knighthood!

What a vile little maggot this thing is. Would he have done the same if it was a group of blokes asking him not to swear.

Just about sums up the low level anti social sub culture that we increasingly have to put up with on public transport and society in general.

I can guarantee when (or if) caught, with the help of a legal aided barrister, will be full of self pity, unfortunate family circumstances, no money, partner expecting etc.., will get a suspended sentence or fine at the most.
Meanwhile the injured and innocent victim will be left with nothing but humiliation but a lesson not use public transport with the family again.

good idea , put his picture in every station and every shop window until hes found. what a ****

andygino wrote:
Just about sums up the low level anti social sub culture that we increasingly have to put up with on public transport and society in general.

I can guarantee when (or if) caught, with the help of a legal aided barrister, will be full of self pity, unfortunate family circumstances, no money, partner expecting etc.., will get a suspended sentence or fine at the most.
Meanwhile the injured and innocent victim will be left with nothing but humiliation but a lesson not use public transport with the family again.

i'm not so sure if this a subculture or the new norm.

incidents like this demonstrate how selfish and emotionally unintelligent some people have become. they probably don't even realise that it is not normal for a grown up to have the temper of a 2 year old and they can't cope with the simplest of social situations, such as travelling on public transport.

disgusting nasty oxygen thief i bet he has sons that go around stealing mobile phones on the network to,please someone ID him then lock him up and throw away the key,these people dont mind being criminals as long as no one knows who they are or where they live,
filth!

Pond life !!

You’re spot on JJ. There’s a huge number of adults with zero social skills who cannot handle criticism, in any form. They’ve grown up rebelling against everything and everyone and have never been properly disciplined or chastised and therefore don’t know how to cope when a member of the public dares to question their behaviour.

Classic example a few weeks back – I’m stood with my son waiting to use a cashpoint, when the guy using it (in his 30’s) starts swearing loudly when it goes wrong. I ask him to mind his language, as I have my six year old with me, and he mumbles a half-hearted apology. But you could tell he was seething, and then started having a pop at me, shouting that I was stood too close (I wasn’t) and tried to somehow make it my fault!?!

He couldn’t handle me telling him off, even though he was 100% in the wrong.

" time to say cheerio to the n.s. - pastures new and all that - plus better newspapers around with grown-up commentators "


Who said that ?

Run along now.

The problem i see with this is the attack could have been avoided by getting into another carriage.
So the victim gets into a carriage and hears someone swearing so rather than go to another carriage he confronts the guy ?
I have no problem with this as hes doing the right thing but and its big but he cannot cope with the situation if it doesnt go the way he wants and this is what happened.
Now if he could handle himself it wouldnt have been a silly thing to do but im sorry considering he had his child and wife with him he should have avoided the confrontation even though morally he did the right thing.He could have easily been stabbed instead of punched,he was lucky.

I can handle myself and often do confront people if their behaviour is bad but with my kids in tow its a different matter, their safety is paramount.

Also how you confront people makes a huge difference, ive done it loads in my job as a ticket inspector so im used to the crap that goes with it but you have to remember far too many like to use knives so you need to weigh up each situation before you say anything.

Dartbored your cashpoint example is a classic example of fight or flight kicking in, the guy has got a massive adrenaline rush hence his ranting at you as uses up the adrenaline.

to be honest,i wouldnt have spoken up if my wife and kid was with me,incase he did turn violent,u gota put your family first,if the swearing was too much then move to another carridge!

but yes hope he gets caught but you know nothing will happen,just a tellin off or some crap like that!!

@toomush – I take your point and if I’d had a right pop at him then you’d be right, but I wasn’t aggressive or threatening at all, I politely asked him to mind his language in front of a small child.

If a simple and perfectly justified request like that provokes a fight or flight response then the guy has some serious issues….and one of the issues must revolve around the fact that he isn’t used to being chastised.

I would bet any money that if he ever gets pulled over by the police, gets in trouble with his boss/wife (whoever) he will always go on the offensive, I know too many people like him – when nothing is ever his fault.

Just like the moron in this story.

toomush2drink wrote:
The problem i see with this is the attack could have been avoided by getting into another carriage. So the victim gets into a carriage and hears someone swearing so rather than go to another carriage he confronts the guy ? I have no problem with this as hes doing the right thing but and its big but he cannot cope with the situation if it doesnt go the way he wants and this is what happened. Now if he could handle himself it wouldnt have been a silly thing to do but im sorry considering he had his child and wife with him he should have avoided the confrontation even though morally he did the right thing.He could have easily been stabbed instead of punched,he was lucky. I can handle myself and often do confront people if their behaviour is bad but with my kids in tow its a different matter, their safety is paramount. Also how you confront people makes a huge difference, ive done it loads in my job as a ticket inspector so im used to the crap that goes with it but you have to remember far too many like to use knives so you need to weigh up each situation before you say anything. Dartbored your cashpoint example is a classic example of fight or flight kicking in, the guy has got a massive adrenaline rush hence his ranting at you as uses up the adrenaline.

I understand what you're saying, and maybe because of the chance of things turning violent, he should have just moved to another carriage. But why should he have to? In a civilised World, one should be able to politely ask somebody to mind their language without the threat of violence. Morals in this country have taken a serious nosedive in the past decade.

Gypo.Joe wrote:
" time to say cheerio to the n.s. - pastures new and all that - plus better newspapers around with grown-up commentators " Who said that ? Run along now.

don't let this idiot "joe" or the other usernames used on here get the better of you ... just never argue with an idiot, he will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience! lol

walkonthewildside wrote:

Gypo.Joe wrote:
" time to say cheerio to the n.s. - pastures new and all that - plus better newspapers around with grown-up commentators " Who said that ? Run along now.

don't let this idiot "joe" or the other usernames used on here get the better of you ... just never argue with an idiot, he will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience! lol

Good morning Karl Nicholas, back again with another sockpuppet I see.

Do we have to mention Wiffin to get you all wound up again and go crying to the editor.

Say hi to Leonie and give her a large one, well everyone else has !!

Why should someone have to move because of someone's anti social behaviour?

In days of old there would have been a guard on a train.....

PaulErith wrote:

toomush2drink wrote:
The problem i see with this is the attack could have been avoided by getting into another carriage. So the victim gets into a carriage and hears someone swearing so rather than go to another carriage he confronts the guy ? I have no problem with this as hes doing the right thing but and its big but he cannot cope with the situation if it doesnt go the way he wants and this is what happened. Now if he could handle himself it wouldnt have been a silly thing to do but im sorry considering he had his child and wife with him he should have avoided the confrontation even though morally he did the right thing.He could have easily been stabbed instead of punched,he was lucky. I can handle myself and often do confront people if their behaviour is bad but with my kids in tow its a different matter, their safety is paramount. Also how you confront people makes a huge difference, ive done it loads in my job as a ticket inspector so im used to the crap that goes with it but you have to remember far too many like to use knives so you need to weigh up each situation before you say anything. Dartbored your cashpoint example is a classic example of fight or flight kicking in, the guy has got a massive adrenaline rush hence his ranting at you as uses up the adrenaline.

I understand what you're saying, and maybe because of the chance of things turning violent, he should have just moved to another carriage. But why should he have to? In a civilised World, one should be able to politely ask somebody to mind their language without the threat of violence. Morals in this country have taken a serious nosedive in the past decade.

I totally agree and also agree why should he have to go to another carriage but its the world we live in just as we have to lock our properties.

Like i have said i have challenged loads like this but i have training in handling these situations along with a strong set of martial arts skills should it get violent, the problem is a knife makes anyone a blackbelt however crap they are with it.
This is a very real risk with far too many willing to carry and use them.

My family is more important to me than taking on battles i cant win which this guy did.

PaulErith wrote:

toomush2drink wrote:
The problem i see with this is the attack could have been avoided by getting into another carriage. So the victim gets into a carriage and hears someone swearing so rather than go to another carriage he confronts the guy ? I have no problem with this as hes doing the right thing but and its big but he cannot cope with the situation if it doesnt go the way he wants and this is what happened. Now if he could handle himself it wouldnt have been a silly thing to do but im sorry considering he had his child and wife with him he should have avoided the confrontation even though morally he did the right thing.He could have easily been stabbed instead of punched,he was lucky. I can handle myself and often do confront people if their behaviour is bad but with my kids in tow its a different matter, their safety is paramount. Also how you confront people makes a huge difference, ive done it loads in my job as a ticket inspector so im used to the crap that goes with it but you have to remember far too many like to use knives so you need to weigh up each situation before you say anything. Dartbored your cashpoint example is a classic example of fight or flight kicking in, the guy has got a massive adrenaline rush hence his ranting at you as uses up the adrenaline.

I understand what you're saying, and maybe because of the chance of things turning violent, he should have just moved to another carriage. But why should he have to? In a civilised World, one should be able to politely ask somebody to mind their language without the threat of violence. Morals in this country have taken a serious nosedive in the past decade.

I totally agree and also agree why should he have to go to another carriage but its the world we live in just as we have to lock our properties.

Like i have said i have challenged loads like this but i have training in handling these situations along with a strong set of martial arts skills should it get violent, the problem is a knife makes anyone a blackbelt however crap they are with it.
This is a very real risk with far too many willing to carry and use them.

My family is more important to me than taking on battles i cant win which this guy did.

walkonthewildside wrote:

Gypo.Joe wrote: " time to say cheerio to the n.s. - pastures new and all that - plus better newspapers around with grown-up commentators " Who said that ? Run along now.

don't let this idiot "joe" or the other usernames used on here get the better of you ... just never argue with an idiot, he will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience! lol

hahahaha that is the best answer and put down ive seen on the net for a long time hahahaha

Luck for this fella Harry wasn`t travelling on that train that night!

i wanna read this piece of garbage has been caught and locked up for ten years lol

dowhat? wrote:
i wanna read this piece of garbage has been caught and locked up for ten years lol

If (and a very big if) he actually gets caught, what's the betting he gets community service