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Report shows sex selling for £10

10:19am Friday 5th September 2008

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By Dan Keel »

PROSTITUTES in the area are offering unprotected oral sex for as little as £10.

Eaves, a charity which provides accommodation and support to trafficked women, also told News Shopper that some brothels in Lewisham and Greenwich are offering unprotected full sex for just £30.

The shocking findings come from the charity's Poppy Project study of brothels across London which found there were 26 brothels advertised in the print media across the two boroughs.

Researchers posed as potential punters and phoned brothels advertised in local newspapers. They asked for prices as well as details about the women who worked there.

The study found 22 of the brothels were based in private flats, two in private houses and two in massage parlours.

Helen Atkins, a researcher on the project, said such low prices suggest prostitutes are under intense pressure.

She said: "Where there is sex at a cheap price it begs the question 'are they offering it of their own free will, or are they being forced into it?'.

"It could also suggest they are suffering from some degree of poverty or even being forced to accept low prices by whoever is running the brothel.

"It's worth noting that our research was focused purely on services which are advertised in the local print media. We didn't even look at online sources and so our findings are barely scratching the surface."

She added: "Of course it is a huge hypocrisy that newspapers run headlines on the front page such as 'Sex slaves in London' but then show readers where to find them in the back page adverts.

"It really is completely unacceptable and I would like to see a blanket ban on all such advertising."

The Poppy Project found one brothel in London's Waltham Forest which was offering 'high risk' unprotected full sex for £15.

In July News Shopper made the decision to remove all adult service advertisements from its print and online publications to play its part in tackling people trafficking and sex slavery.

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The Real Me, Here says...
11:01am Fri 5 Sep 08

A TENNER!??!?! I have to take my bird out for a 3 course meal for that sort of treatment.

3 course meal: £80 min.

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me, penge says...
11:26am Fri 5 Sep 08

Its tragic,how desperate must those poor girls be,especially to offer unprotected sex as well.Drugs are probable to blame. Perhaps brothels should be legalised, then at least there could be some controls.

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sarah, dartford says...
11:46am Fri 5 Sep 08

I rweally dont see how you can say you feel sorry for them, if they wernt working in brothels, they would be working from home anyway. Most of them are working to pay debts off or to feed a drug addiction. A site on the net called adultwork.com and you can see all the so called 'escorts' that are operating in the area, it actually shocked and appaled me...

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local, swanley says...
11:51am Fri 5 Sep 08

Legalise brothels? No wonder this country is in the state it is!shut the damned places down - most are run by criminals anyway. Make curb crawling more of an offence - name and shame the drivers and prosecute the prostitutes. Surel they can get better jobs than what theya re doing? It's about time we cleaned up this country and made it a decent place for kids to grow up it. I suppose the News Shopper is another local rag that takes money from these people for their adverts - that makes them guilty as well if that is the case!

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Gypo, says...
12:02pm Fri 5 Sep 08

"It's about time we cleaned up this country and made it a decent place for kids to grow up in."

I agree, lets make a start with Swanley !!

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drew, Dartford says...
12:03pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Make brothels legal and you can monitor the girls health, protect them from dangerous client and recover some revenue at the same time.

carry on ignoring the need for this and nothing will change?
Girls will continue to sell themselves for money, and because their so vulnerable put themselves in danger of disease or harm.

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Fred, says...
12:03pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Local, if you read the article properly you'll see you're wrong, at least on your last point.

As for the rest of your comment:

about time we cleaned up this country and made it a decent place for kids to grow up it.

Erm, hello, have you ever heard protitution referred to as the 'oldest profession'? It's been going on for a long, long time - it's not a new thing and it has nothing to do with whatever state you think this country might be in now.

All the time there is demand then there will be supply. You're not going to stop it.

Why not legalise brothels? A lot of other countries do it and it removes many of the problems.

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sarah, dartford says...
12:07pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Go on adultwork.com and yuo will see all rthe people offering their services on there, you may even reconise some of them.. i did and it is shocking asnd has disgusted me totally.. they should ban these sites!!!

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City, Wine Bar says...
12:09pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Wonder if this story should be mentioned in the "beat the credit crunch" special!!

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Drew, Dartford says...
12:20pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Sarah
Why are you looking at these sites in the first place? When you log on they ask if your over eighteen and explain the content of the site.
So you shouldn't have looked unless your curious?
And why are you looking for friends on there?

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The Real Me, Here says...
12:21pm Fri 5 Sep 08

I reckon Sarah is touting her services on there. What this is called is "Drumming up Business"

Times are hard.

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Dirty Dave, SE18 says...
12:34pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Its a shame it doesn't give the road names, I'd have been down there like a shot, my brass charges me £100 an hour.

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Biscuit, Bromley says...
12:41pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Legal brothels would get these girls off the streets, they will be looked after (and not by some nasty pimp but a proper Madam) be safer and healthier.

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Fred, says...
12:46pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Sarah, if you're so shocked by that website then you are either naive to what's out there on the web or you're very easily offended.

Sites like that could be banned. Prostitution could be clamped down on more harshly. Or to solve all the problems once and for all, we could just ban sex. New regulations could be introduced so you need a licence to 'do it' and even then only normal, sensible, unadventurous married couples are allowed to partake.

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sarah, dartford says...
12:49pm Fri 5 Sep 08

How dare you, i have just found out my friend is doing this and i think its a disgrace!! I totally disagree with it, people like us work hard 5 days a wekk earning our way and paying our way and theres people out there doing this and getting like 100 quid an hour for laying on their backs, i only say this site because you may have family members on there or friends and i think they need to be found out bcoase its a dangerous game and they need help!

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sarah, dartford says...
12:51pm Fri 5 Sep 08

i hope all the people who have just slagged me off find out that someone in there family is doing it then we will see how shocked you are!!!

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Fred, says...
12:53pm Fri 5 Sep 08

So what you're saying is you're jealous of girls who can get 100 quid an hour for laying on their backs?

I dunno what the problem is. You only have to watch that Secret Diary Of A Call Girl show on ITV to see what a fun and glamorous life it can be. There are some extreme cases where people are forced into it but for many it's a lifestyle choice - they can get good money for doing something they enjoy. SOme women would prefer to earn money this way than working in an office or shop.

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sarah, dartford says...
12:59pm Fri 5 Sep 08

I cant believe you agree with this, what if you found out that your daughter otr sister were doing it,, would you agree with it then/ Its very dangerous and perople dont seem to realise, the girls dont enjoy it,, they just see £ signs, it is dngerous, you invite people to your homes or go in theres and you dont know them. Then again is manily married med that go to see them..

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get a job, bromley says...
1:23pm Fri 5 Sep 08

£30 a hour sounds good to me! ****

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Moi, says...
1:34pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Have to say, I agree with the idea of legalising brothels.

In an ideal world the seedy vice industry wouldn't exist, but it does. That and prostitution are never going to go away. If it became legal, then at least the women (and men) who choose to do it would have rights and some protection, it would be easier to Police, and they'd pay tax and insurance on £millions worth of what are currently classed as 'immoral earnings'.

You might not like it Sarah, but it's a fact of life I'm afraid.

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David, Kent says...
1:35pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Sarah I think you are not seeing the bigger picture, this is what happens all over the world and it is the oldest profession in the world, I dont agree with footballers earning £120k per week for pretty much doing nothing.

Thats life and sex does sell... if you are safe you can earn a lot of money from it one thinks!

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Get Real, London says...
1:59pm Fri 5 Sep 08

sarah wrote:
i hope all the people who have just slagged me off find out that someone in there family is doing it then we will see how shocked you are!!!

Why should we be disgusted, for all we know our great grandparents were at it too......

Its not a new thing!

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Stephen Paterson, Wales says...
3:32pm Fri 5 Sep 08

If you read the actual report this story is based on, you discover most of the "brothels" weren't brothels at all but the working flats or houses of indpependent sex workers working alone or with a maid employed by them.

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Lizzielooloo, says...
3:46pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Local you will see at the bottom of this article it does say that

In July News Shopper made the decision to remove all adult service advertisements from its print and online publications to play its part in tackling people trafficking and sex slavery

So I think that shows you they are making some effort.

Sarah , Im really sorry about the way you feel. I do appreciate that no one wants this kind of thing on their doorstep, but it is a sad fact of life that this is something that will always go on for whatever reason. For some it is in fact a last desperate measure. I also agree with Drew I dont really understand why you are looking on these kind of site anyway if you find them so disgusting.

Im not sure what the answer to this is, if there is one, maybe it is time that is it legalised so more risks can be cut, and proper checks can be keep on these young men and women so they dont have to put themselves in this danger. However would I personally like to be living next door to a brothel legal or not I think I probably wouldnt. It is a very difficult subject.

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Drew, Dartford says...
5:03pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Sarah
I work in a run down London Borough where a young drug addict was offering oral sex to guys for two pound?
This poor individual needs medical help a) for her addiction too drugs b) Protection from the drug dealers who hold her too ransom.
If these are the people your trying to protect you have my full support?
But please understand there are loads of women and men who sell sex to pay for University, keep their families from starving and because thwey enjoy the work. These people need the law changed so they conduct their business in a clean safe environment without everyone labelling them as scum.

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Jack, Charlton says...
6:09pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Yuk fancy paying to catch some nasty disease from some brass who cant even charge a decent fee

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Vern, West Wickham says...
8:13pm Fri 5 Sep 08

If you go round the back of a NETTO in Locksbottom the girls are doing a "Monday night Special". Buy One Get One Free.

In the current financial climate I applaud this type of promotion.

The offer lasts from 11.30pm to 4.30am.

Clients must have their own car,

I would gobble up this opportunity whilst it lasts !

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Mick, Walderslade says...
8:57pm Fri 5 Sep 08

If the girls at Plumstead Corner are anything to go by I will keep my tenner thanks

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Sean Hamilton, Greenwich says...
9:47pm Fri 5 Sep 08

I agree with most of the above comments, however some of these men im sure if they cant pay for cheap sex will go and get it some other way, maybe forcing some poor girl to do the dirty deed!

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julie, london says...
9:55pm Fri 5 Sep 08

£10 is about rite, thats a bag of herion, its sad really but thats wot drugs reduce addicts into these women become desprate or they just don't care about themselves.

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Laura, Bromley says...
9:20am Sat 6 Sep 08

sarah wrote:
How dare you, i have just found out my friend is doing this and i think its a disgrace!! I totally disagree with it, people like us work hard 5 days a wekk earning our way and paying our way and theres people out there doing this and getting like 100 quid an hour for laying on their backs, i only say this site because you may have family members on there or friends and i think they need to be found out bcoase its a dangerous game and they need help!

Sarah - You have a choice - your friend is obviously giving a good level of service for £100 an hour - maybe you are more jealous than disgusted - it shows in your tone.

Or maybe your friend is good looking and you are a bit of a heffa/minger who's max earnings would a lot less.

Thats life my dear and it aint ever likely to change.

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Gypo, says...
11:15am Sat 6 Sep 08

Laura whats your 'going' rate ?

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The Grim Reaper, Deptford says...
2:41pm Sat 6 Sep 08

Stephen Paterson wrote "If you read the actual report this story is based on, you discover most of the "brothels" weren't brothels at all but the working flats or houses of indpependent sex workers working alone or with a maid employed by them."

True, which makes one wonder why the report is called BIG BROTHEL unless it is merely an attempt by the Poppy Project to sensationalise the issue. It is worth reading the report if only for the delightfully bonkers introduction written by somebody under the misapprehension that all prostitutes are female.

Anybody still awake after 40 pages may wonder just how much taxpayers monies is being spent on researching prostitution when they see the four page bibliography. Diverting some this money into helping the women who want out might be a better idea.

Prices for sex, like anything else in a capitalist economy, are basically dependent on supply and demand. Prices are dropping (not long ago Grim was offered full sex by a street prostitute for 25 quid, which in itself is not unusual but what was strange is that she was not obviously a junkie or lacking in personal hygiene - offer politely declined.)

The drop in prices suggests that either fewer men are buying sex - lack of demand; or that more women are selling sex (or being sold) - excess supply.

Like most Poppy Project / Eaves Housing work the report is a conflation of genuine research undermined by the interposing of assertions unsupported by any evidence. One suspects that sub-editing is dismissed as being too patriarchal for the wimmin's movement.

The one truly shocking and disturbing item in the report is to be found at page 10 in amongst what is entitled Myth and Reality. The 'myth' posed is 'Disabled men, who might not be able to find a sexual
partner, have a right to the services of prostituted
women.'

and the supposed reality is:

'Sex is not an entitlement, nor a human right. There are
many ways in which anyone can enjoy consensual sex.
Specialist dating services, meet-up groups, and online
networks which link up disabled people are thriving.'

So Raspberries should stick to shagging thier own sort, should they?

Perhaps blacks and jews should be kept away from our white women as well.

Stephen Paterson wrote "If you read the actual report this story is based on, you discover most of the "brothels" weren't brothels at all but the working flats or houses of indpependent sex workers working alone or with a maid employed by them." True, which makes one wonder why the report is called BIG BROTHEL unless it is merely an attempt by the Poppy Project to sensationalise the issue. It is worth reading the report if only for the delightfully bonkers introduction written by somebody under the misapprehension that all prostitutes are female. Anybody still awake after 40 pages may wonder just how much taxpayers monies is being spent on researching prostitution when they see the four page bibliography. Diverting some this money into helping the women who want out might be a better idea. Prices for sex, like anything else in a capitalist economy, are basically dependent on supply and demand. Prices are dropping (not long ago Grim was offered full sex by a street prostitute for 25 quid, which in itself is not unusual but what was strange is that she was not obviously a junkie or lacking in personal hygiene - offer politely declined.) The drop in prices suggests that either fewer men are buying sex - lack of demand; or that more women are selling sex (or being sold) - excess supply. Like most Poppy Project / Eaves Housing work the report is a conflation of genuine research undermined by the interposing of assertions unsupported by any evidence. One suspects that sub-editing is dismissed as being too patriarchal for the wimmin's movement. The one truly shocking and disturbing item in the report is to be found at page 10 in amongst what is entitled Myth and Reality. The 'myth' posed is 'Disabled men, who might not be able to find a sexual partner, have a right to the services of prostituted women.' and the supposed reality is: 'Sex is not an entitlement, nor a human right. There are many ways in which anyone can enjoy consensual sex. Specialist dating services, meet-up groups, and online networks which link up disabled people are thriving.' So Raspberries should stick to shagging thier own sort, should they? Perhaps blacks and jews should be kept away from our white women as well.

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CATH, ORPINGTON says...
5:33am Sun 7 Sep 08

SOME OF THESE COMMENTS ARE SO OFFENSIVE, LIKE LAURA'S AND JOHN'S. IF YOU HAD SAID THAT ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE, ASIAN PEOPLE OR ANY OTHER RACE, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLIC OUTRAGE!RACISM RING ANY BELLS? BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE OFFENDING TRAVELLERS THAT DOESN'T MATTER, AS THE SMALL MINDED LIKES OF YOU BELIEVE WE ARE FAIR GAME. IT'S PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT CAUSE WARS!!.

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BIG AL, Sidcup says...
8:50am Sun 7 Sep 08

TENNER AN HOUR!!!
I NEGOTIATED A PAY AS YOU GO RATE FOR A SCORE AN HOUR BUT I ONLY USED A POUNDS WORTH AND I HAD TWO GOES.

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The Grim Reaper, Deptford says...
11:39am Sun 7 Sep 08

I do love all these victims.

Get a life Cath.

And I do not mean go out and steal one.

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Gypo, says...
12:47pm Sun 7 Sep 08

"TRUE ROMANY"

Thank you Vern .

Laura you've tried the rest, now try the best !

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sense, catford says...
2:57pm Sun 7 Sep 08

sarah wrote:
Go on adultwork.com and yuo will see all rthe people offering their services on there, you may even reconise some of them.. i did and it is shocking asnd has disgusted me totally.. they should ban these sites!!!

you are blatantly one of these girls sarah, don't worry i have empathy for you working girls !

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Rose, New Eltham says...
5:59pm Sun 7 Sep 08

Comments like Lauras and Johns are what cause trouble , they are obviously narrow minded people who hide behind their pc's, My best friends are travellers , real romany gypsies who have morals and old fashioned ways and bring their children up the right way, the people causing trouble on this message board have not been bought up properly as they would not offend people like this and they have no idea what they are talking about and have big opinions when they are sitting behind their computer, I am very surprised the News Shopper allows this abuse to be posted as this is racism. There is good and bad in all people regardless of colour and culture, I hope to see these offensive posts removed and an apology.
People who are racist against other cultures and races find themselves in court, gypsies are a recognised race and human beings this should not be allowed, I hope the News Shopper takes note of this abuse on their sites and do not tolerate this now or in the future.

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Rose, New Eltham says...
10:27pm Sun 7 Sep 08

If my previous post was read properly and understood in the correct context you would have no reason to write just rubbish Vern but in answer to your posting I am glad to read that you also feel that proper romany gypsies are law abiding and respectful, yes there are groups of travellers who give true romany gypsies a bad name which is the same with anybody whatever their colour or race.
You are obviously very angry and very bitter and scraping the barrel with your pathetic comments, which I am not even going to pass comment, perhaps if you were not so bitter you may get on and not let things bother you so much, but with regards to Gary Glitter he deserves to live the rest of his life in misery and he should not have any rights at all and let the parents deal with him how they see fit.
Again my best friends are travelling people and yes I do love them and yet again I do not agree with the racism and abuse that is being posted on this site whoever it may be against.

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Gypo, says...
10:29pm Sun 7 Sep 08

Well said Rose. There's good and bad in every, race, creed , and colour.

Back to me banjo ! :)

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Maurice, West Wickham says...
7:42am Mon 8 Sep 08

Rose wrote:
If my previous post was read properly and understood in the correct context you would have no reason to write just rubbish Vern but in answer to your posting I am glad to read that you also feel that proper romany gypsies are law abiding and respectful, yes there are groups of travellers who give true romany gypsies a bad name which is the same with anybody whatever their colour or race.
You are obviously very angry and very bitter and scraping the barrel with your pathetic comments, which I am not even going to pass comment, perhaps if you were not so bitter you may get on and not let things bother you so much, but with regards to Gary Glitter he deserves to live the rest of his life in misery and he should not have any rights at all and let the parents deal with him how they see fit.
Again my best friends are travelling people and yes I do love them and yet again I do not agree with the racism and abuse that is being posted on this site whoever it may be against.

Sorry Rose - but most Travelers are SCUM 9 so they are not ROMANYS - I know a ROMANY family in Shropshire and they live a peaceful existence moving around never causing problems.

The MAJORITY of the travelers in the south east are SCUM - like the ones in West Wickham presently.

So in the case of Travelers its the MAJORITY giving the MINORITY a bad name - FACT -

ASk anyone who has had to put up with these people living nearby or trespassing on their land.

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The Grim Reaper, Deptford says...
11:21am Mon 8 Sep 08

Maurice, do calm down dear.

Put yourself in the position of a traveller patronised by humourless middle-class Guardian reading do-gooders like Rose. Would you not become an anti social thieving scumbag if you had to endure that?

I was going to tell you about Laura's party trick but as everybody apart from Gypo is being so rotten to her you will have to wait for another occasion.

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knowlsey, sidcup says...
1:35pm Mon 8 Sep 08

Sarah have you got your mates address?

I think its hillarious that you found one of your mates doing it.

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Mary, Sidcup says...
10:34pm Mon 8 Sep 08

Let me get this right . who are you all slatting on here?
is it the true Romany Gypsy, who work and pay their taxes, and bring their children up to respect all, or are you talking about the Irish Tinkers (non gypsy) that leave their homes in Ireland, buy a caravan and come here to rob, con and leave all their filth everywhere. if it is the tinker , i wish you would all be more clear about it.i know there are a lot of people who are ignorant to the fact and class us all the same. and while i'm here, i will warn you all, be carefull using the word PIKY when you are refuring to a gypsy,becuse we are a known race now and it is a race hate word and you could end up in court.and them irish tinkers would love a chance to get money out of you (easier than doing your driveway that caves in within a week)

I'LL leave you all with this note.
MAY YOU ALL LIVE AS LONG AS YOU WANT, AND NEVER WANT AS LONG AS YOU LIVE.
LONG LIVE THE TRUE ROMANY GYPSY!

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Rose, New Eltham says...
10:42pm Mon 8 Sep 08

My My My, how the insults fly, I have noticed on this site that when no intelligent response can be given , people just result in abuse and making nasty and childish comments , this just shows YOUR mentality.
I have laughed at your pathetic attempts of trying to be sarcastic and funny and have not once lowered myself to any of your standards,
As I have said before there is good and bad in everyone, whoever they may be and it is clear on these sites who the bad are, these are the people having cheap cracks at other peoples expense, perhaps taking a long look at themselves is what they need to do.

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Rose, New Eltham says...
11:23pm Mon 8 Sep 08

Just wanted to apologise for how long it took me to respond today in reply to GRIM REAPER s fascinating read , the thing is I was at WORK, judging by GRIM or should I say GRIMES time of posting he must have a very understanding boss or just sits at home watching too much daytime TV.
Yes GRIMEY, I go to work probably to pay for a years worth of the guardian or my middle class top of the range Mercedes but all the same WORK!!!, You have obviously got far too much time on your hands, I look forward to your educated reply tomorrow, I would imagine in the advert break probably between cash in the attic or bargain hunt, Ciao for now!

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Demi, eltham says...
7:40pm Tue 9 Sep 08

I think they should make prostitution legal, then maybe the perves will leave the kids alone. if girls wanna sell their bodys then its up to. them what they do...people who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones

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South East, South East says...
9:14am Sun 14 Sep 08

Most of these girls are drug addicts or have drink problems and sell sex to feed theit habits. Or worse they sell sex to feed their partners hbits. I think there should be legal brothels where the girls receive regular health checks, HIV and STD testing. So we can get this off our streets, away from residential areas and away fom our children.

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none of your business, behind you! says...
10:16pm Sat 20 Sep 08

Bouncy was here!

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