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Update: Car lands in garage

12:37pm Sunday 13th July 2008

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By Mark Chandler »

A NURSERY school teacher has spoken of her shock after a car landed on top of her garage this morning (July 13).

Joyce Alimo and her husband Walter were woken at 1am by a "blood-curdling thud" outside their home in Warren Road, Orpington.

She said: "I rushed outside and saw a young man climbing out of the car.

"The car was pointing head down into my garage like an arrow."

A group of passers-by helped the car's other passenger out of the vehicle and lay him on the pavement.

Mrs Alimo believes the car may have hit her 8ft garden hedge which acted like a ramp, sending it flying into the garage.

She says the impact has written off her own car which was in the garage, and destroyed the rest of its contents.

Mrs Alimo said: "It was an accident waiting to happen - very often we hear shrieking cars late at night.

"But my main concern is that nobody was killed.

"There have to be some speed bumps put in this road because there are schools either side of it."

One of the occupants was taken to hospital but his injuries are not believed to be life-threatening.


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june, says...
10:32am Sun 13 Jul 08

well well they was driving along at 30mph and the car just left the ground and landed on top of the garage.{i would take it in and get both wings looked at for damange}

shannonn, says...
3:12pm Sun 13 Jul 08

Hope Youurr Okaiiee Boiiesss!:(
Loveyouuueeeess <3

roter barbs nbt.., japan says...
5:55pm Sun 13 Jul 08

keep give it and i put your head in the garage been travelling all day and had a fight now im going a sleep see you larter hot potata

Lizzie, Orpington says...
6:00pm Sun 13 Jul 08

Haha Boysss. Love You! :) Everyone's Is Ok. It's All Good :) xxx

alex lyons, says...
6:11pm Sun 13 Jul 08

hi guys how you doing? hope you boyss r ok luv u bois to bits keep your heads up luv ya ****

Laurenn, says...
6:48pm Sun 13 Jul 08

Heyy boyss. hope your asll okieee :D
lYY XXX

jack, says...
7:30pm Sun 13 Jul 08

hey guys im ok now thanks for the support love ya all your all like family now and this has brought us closer together xxx

Ant Davis, says...
8:01pm Sun 13 Jul 08

Hi guys how you doing? Hope you guys ok luv ya mates. take care see you soon x

toby, says...
8:03pm Sun 13 Jul 08

hope ur all ok ever need any help if you want to talk just me a ring darling bmfl xxx

TOBY, ORPINGTON says...
8:16pm Sun 13 Jul 08

Kool boys hope you lot are alll good least none of u are badly hurt init
x

H, says...
8:52pm Sun 13 Jul 08

Glad That Your all Ok, and Safe, just Think about things in future. Btw; Dont actually Think its that funny. 'haha'?? Well Funny then yeh?? Just Glad No ones Hurt too bad. xxx

c jones, sidcup says...
9:13pm Sun 13 Jul 08

the lunatic who was driving the car should be banned for life kool man god help us all with idiots like this driving

Charlie, says...
11:36pm Sun 13 Jul 08

Im glad you alrytt laddss x

Local, Swanley says...
11:47pm Sun 13 Jul 08

I hope these jokers are prosecuted for their mad behaviour. Rather than just joke around with their mates in their sub zero language a word of apology would be appropriate for the owners of the damaged property. It would have been the first message left here if they had any decency. I wonder how they are going to repay the damage?


joker, says...
11:51pm Sun 13 Jul 08

shut up boy

Daniels, says...
1:06am Mon 14 Jul 08

glad u all safe bois x

Natalie, says...
8:40am Mon 14 Jul 08

I cannot believe some of the posts on here. Why are people almost congratulating the idiots that did this? Do they not understand the trouble this is causing the poor people who's garage and car has been ruined! Thank god they were not harmed as this could have been a lot more serious! I think these little boys need to grow up and stop trying to act like men as they clearly can't handle the responsibility!!

jordan and dannnyyy, priory school inict says...
9:14am Mon 14 Jul 08

GREAT PARTY, HOPE YOU NUTTERS ARE OK BRUV PEACE X

Stacey, Plumstead says...
9:29am Mon 14 Jul 08

All you wana be gangsters wana grow up!! Maybe sum1 shud of died, then u wud of thought twice about doin this childish act! U r all pathetic and lets hope nothing like this happens to your parents property (thats if they have ne probably not by the sounds of it....

M, Orpingotn says...
9:53am Mon 14 Jul 08

Chavs!

d, brixton says...
10:34am Mon 14 Jul 08

4t you was a good driver

Gemma, Belvedere says...
10:56am Mon 14 Jul 08

I just hope the boards messages that these idiots have posted are handed to the Police and their IP addresses are traced.

GLOCKIE, says...
11:23am Mon 14 Jul 08

gerns lol keep it real

local, Swanley says...
5:08pm Mon 14 Jul 08

Gemma wrote:
I just hope the boards messages that these idiots have posted are handed to the Police and their IP addresses are traced.
I totally agree Gemma. Every one who has posted here supporting these zero's should also be questioned by the police as they seem to be part of the crime.

S, Orpington says...
5:28pm Mon 14 Jul 08

All u lot complimenting these kids on what they done are stupid. They nearly killed themselves and others in the house. That aint kool isit its just stupid.

Daisey, Orpington says...
5:58pm Mon 14 Jul 08

why are people saying that our IP addresses should be traced? yh what they did was silly, but there our friends, and wen something like this happens you support em, every1 trys to help. its not funny but dosent mean we cant show a bit of support. glad your safe and sound jack :)

cheese, from gern land says...
6:39pm Mon 14 Jul 08

you tell them daisey lol big up gerning for the krew lol

Me, Orpington says...
7:46pm Mon 14 Jul 08

Daisey wrote:
why are people saying that our IP addresses should be traced? yh what they did was silly, but there our friends, and wen something like this happens you support em, every1 trys to help. its not funny but dosent mean we cant show a bit of support. glad your safe and sound jack :)
Daisey, I would say that out of all your friends that have commented here you sound as though you have the most common sense, however, what is completely missing is concern over the people who's property they have damaged and the potential to hurt someone else.That is why everyone is annoyed. It's the total lack of respect for other people.

Ashley, orpington says...
12:38pm Tue 15 Jul 08

Well I really do hope that you bunch of idiots know what you have done, not only have you destroyed somebodys property, but my daughter attends Mrs Alimos pre-school and disraught because presents ment for children leaving on friday where in there!!! So there will be a lot of upset children thanks to you wanna be gangesters! Id like to see how long you would survive in Brixton!!!

shannon, rosey,jordan n dannille, orpington says...
1:07pm Tue 15 Jul 08

Ashley wrote:
Well I really do hope that you bunch of idiots know what you have done, not only have you destroyed somebodys property, but my daughter attends Mrs Alimos pre-school and disraught because presents ment for children leaving on friday where in there!!! So there will be a lot of upset children thanks to you wanna be gangesters! Id like to see how long you would survive in Brixton!!!
do yu no wot love i fink someones life is more important then a bunch of stupid presents they can be replaced but someones life cant can it imagine if that was someone to do with you you would be more woriied about them than a few stupid presents get over it yu mug you can buy presents you cant buy prescious mates or someone in you family can ya? yuu seriously need to think about what you say one of our mates could of died that night and all your worried about is your child being upset what would you rather your life gone or a present..?yuu need to think bout what yu are saying

nicki, orpington says...
1:50pm Tue 15 Jul 08

It wasnt just presents you stupid **** it was the thought, time and effort this lady has put in to making friday a special day for 5 year old children! Maybe you lot should think about what will happen to other people before you decided to have what you call fun, its just a shame the person drving was not more hurt then maybe you tossers wouldnt b congraulating them.

Cousin, Bexley says...
2:27pm Tue 15 Jul 08

i am the cousin of they boy who crashed this car. I want to apologise for the stress and grief he has put the owners of this house through. His family are devastated.
i also think he needs to get some new friends all you sad little kids on here need to grow up, my cousin could of died or worse could of killed someone so it is not funny and he does not need people like you around him. and the joker posting as lewis is NOT my cousin so leave off, he doesn't need to get into any more trouble than he already is!

Pinkerbell, SE London says...
3:21pm Tue 15 Jul 08

shannon, rosey,jordan n dannille wrote:
Ashley wrote:
Well I really do hope that you bunch of idiots know what you have done, not only have you destroyed somebodys property, but my daughter attends Mrs Alimos pre-school and disraught because presents ment for children leaving on friday where in there!!! So there will be a lot of upset children thanks to you wanna be gangesters! Id like to see how long you would survive in Brixton!!!
do yu no wot love i fink someones life is more important then a bunch of stupid presents they can be replaced but someones life cant can it imagine if that was someone to do with you you would be more woriied about them than a few stupid presents get over it yu mug you can buy presents you cant buy prescious mates or someone in you family can ya? yuu seriously need to think about what you say one of our mates could of died that night and all your worried about is your child being upset what would you rather your life gone or a present..?yuu need to think bout what yu are saying
Oh dear girls was the silly boys who was driving not at fault here?

don't go slating other people when your silly friends were at fault

Me, Orpington says...
7:32pm Tue 15 Jul 08

Pinkerbell wrote:
shannon, rosey,jordan n dannille wrote:
Ashley wrote: Well I really do hope that you bunch of idiots know what you have done, not only have you destroyed somebodys property, but my daughter attends Mrs Alimos pre-school and disraught because presents ment for children leaving on friday where in there!!! So there will be a lot of upset children thanks to you wanna be gangesters! Id like to see how long you would survive in Brixton!!!
do yu no wot love i fink someones life is more important then a bunch of stupid presents they can be replaced but someones life cant can it imagine if that was someone to do with you you would be more woriied about them than a few stupid presents get over it yu mug you can buy presents you cant buy prescious mates or someone in you family can ya? yuu seriously need to think about what you say one of our mates could of died that night and all your worried about is your child being upset what would you rather your life gone or a present..?yuu need to think bout what yu are saying
Oh dear girls was the silly boys who was driving not at fault here? don't go slating other people when your silly friends were at fault
Shannon, Rosey,Jordan and Dannille. Shouldn't you be out mugging old people, taking drugs, drinking and having under age sex rather than wasting your time on the internet?

ashley, orpington says...
7:46pm Tue 15 Jul 08

shannon, rosey,jordan n dannille wrote:
Ashley wrote: Well I really do hope that you bunch of idiots know what you have done, not only have you destroyed somebodys property, but my daughter attends Mrs Alimos pre-school and disraught because presents ment for children leaving on friday where in there!!! So there will be a lot of upset children thanks to you wanna be gangesters! Id like to see how long you would survive in Brixton!!!
do yu no wot love i fink someones life is more important then a bunch of stupid presents they can be replaced but someones life cant can it imagine if that was someone to do with you you would be more woriied about them than a few stupid presents get over it yu mug you can buy presents you cant buy prescious mates or someone in you family can ya? yuu seriously need to think about what you say one of our mates could of died that night and all your worried about is your child being upset what would you rather your life gone or a present..?yuu need to think bout what yu are saying
No coz none of mymate would be stupid enough!Yes I am glad that nobody got killed!But biggin him up like his some hero is just what I expect from silly young youths on the street nowdays!And I ant no mug! you need to get yourself some new mates put down the stella and stop smoking the weed!!DONE!

shannon,rosey,jordan ,danielle, orpington says...
8:51pm Tue 15 Jul 08

The boys no they did wrong and they will learn from there mistake ...everyone makes mistakes in there life and its not as if they wanted that to happen yh coz they did want to nearly kill there selfs and other people im sure there sorry for what they done!! and all there mates are trying to say is they are glad they are ok not trying to biggin them up to make them think there heros and we dont need to change our mates we are just happy they are ok aint that fair enough and we aint the type of grls to mug old people and take drugs and have under age sex.. dont juge people!!

H, says...
10:50pm Tue 15 Jul 08

Look We are only trying to Show support. Yes They were Stupid For what happend, But no one is trying to Be Gangstas or Heros. And Yes we a "Youths", but who said that Everyone of us is Being knocked up, Off our head on drugs Mugging old women? If You judge us, we Judge you. The boys Were stupid, and No on is agreeing tht what they did is right. No we dont need to Change our mates either.. We need to be there for eachother, and make sure they dont do it again! They are really sorry for the damage and for the presents, But mrs Alimos' presents arent actually as important as The crash, the boys or How Mrs ALimo is doing. i dont even agree with some comments on here, but people who actually care bout the boys arent "BIGGIN" them up or finking of them as heros and we're not wasting our time o the internet just Showing we care for EVERYONE involved in the crash.

shannon rosie jordan and danielle, orpington says...
10:08am Wed 16 Jul 08

listen we no that the teacher did put alot of time and effort into doing those presents but no1 new it was going to happen so you cant exactly blame the boys for what they done..and we are good kids we dont go round muggin old people we are better than that and you said about changing our friends but these boys mean everything to us even if they was stupid enough to get into the car that doesnt change our friendship...who said congratulating the boys for what they have done???? they no not to do it again dont they at the end of they day lets just be gratefull no one got seriously hurt...luff ya boys =]

MANDY, kent says...
12:06pm Wed 16 Jul 08

Lets just hope he had insurance mot tax and a driving licence!!! and the car was his!!!If not then we have a right to judge!A close friend was killed because a silly little boy thought it was fun to drive around speeding and over the drink and drugs limit and you know what he said in court "I was trying to impress my mates"lets hope it don't happen to any of family and friends because this could have been the case and then Im dam sure you wouldn't take the **** of people expressing their feelings!people are upset because this is a family that they know and their home has been destroyed I'm sure you would be pretty upset if it were your mum or dads house.

John, Bromley says...
8:12pm Wed 16 Jul 08

The boy responsible for this has NO INSURANCE and NO DRIVING LICENCE. He is 16. He was witnessed trying to run from the scene leaving his friend for dead still trapped inside the squashed car. Random passers-by dragged the passenger out of the car and called for help.

Roman, Chislehurst says...
1:00pm Thu 17 Jul 08

I dont know the full story but what ever it is its obvious they wasnt driving within the law, these sort of accidents never happen when you drive within the constraints of the law.
That said some of the so called adults need to have a cold hard look at themselfs as all these people were doing was stating how grateful they was their friends were still alive. Is that not the behaviour of a normal caring human being anymore then ? Yes what they did was stupid, and ive no doubt these boys really regret what happened, but at the end of the day it was a garage that was destroyed, expensive what with the car being inside as well and no doubt caused some distress to the owners, but the car and garage contents can be replaced and the garage rebuilt, if these two boys had lost their lives in this accident,well tell me, how do you replace the loss of two young lives no matter what race colour or ethnic origin ? how do the parents rebuild their lives after losing a child ?
Because of course every single person who slagged this young kid off has never broken the speed limit, as a young driver or as an adult,no doubt you will all claim to never have done anything that was rash and foolish, as you are all so perfect. well ?

Jen, says...
2:22pm Thu 17 Jul 08

I would like to start by saying HE TRYED TO RUN OFF AND LEAVE HIS SO CALLED MATE FOR DEAD!!!(Mmmm nice friend!)sure you wouldn't be smiling if that were you!If you dont want us to judge then stop being Fools!I know your all young and you do things that you regret but come on what if it was the house and someone got killed?Mmmmm smiling then i think not. I hope he is punished by having to re-build and to pay for anything that was destroyed! and not by his parents!better get yourself a job sunny jim

Anon, Bromley says...
2:27pm Thu 17 Jul 08

shannon,rosey,jordan,danielle wrote:
The boys no they did wrong and they will learn from there mistake ...everyone makes mistakes in there life and its not as if they wanted that to happen yh coz they did want to nearly kill there selfs and other people im sure there sorry for what they done!! and all there mates are trying to say is they are glad they are ok not trying to biggin them up to make them think there heros and we dont need to change our mates we are just happy they are ok aint that fair enough and we aint the type of grls to mug old people and take drugs and have under age sex.. dont juge people!!
Have any of these children ever been to school?! The grammar, punctuation and language in this message is absolutely appalling. I just feel sorry for the teachers who are having to try and teach these children.

Me, says...
2:48pm Thu 17 Jul 08

show some respect you idiot ITS EVERYONES BUSINESS you fool!it wouldn't be one here otherwise.

Paul, says...
3:04pm Thu 17 Jul 08

Anon wrote:
shannon,rosey,jordan,danielle wrote: The boys no they did wrong and they will learn from there mistake ...everyone makes mistakes in there life and its not as if they wanted that to happen yh coz they did want to nearly kill there selfs and other people im sure there sorry for what they done!! and all there mates are trying to say is they are glad they are ok not trying to biggin them up to make them think there heros and we dont need to change our mates we are just happy they are ok aint that fair enough and we aint the type of grls to mug old people and take drugs and have under age sex.. dont juge people!!
Have any of these children ever been to school?! The grammar, punctuation and language in this message is absolutely appalling. I just feel sorry for the teachers who are having to try and teach these children.
and theres me wondering why the kids of today disrespect the elders of today !!!!!! Do try and keep up with the times eh, its internet chat, its what the kids use in their chat rooms/msn, try looking at theirschool work to see if they can actually read write and spell, you will find most are better than you as the education they get is of a higher standard than what you got ! give these kids the respect they deserve and you might find they stop wanting to kick your rude obnoxious head in !
and yes i have kids of all ages, none have ever been in trouble with the police or cause any problems, thats because they are bought up as decent human beings not spoke down to and generally blamed for their elders failings !

bb, london, s.e. says...
4:24pm Thu 17 Jul 08

you will find most are better than you as the education they get is of a higher standard than what you got !


Paul, please tell us where you got this valuable piece of information from. Do you have any proof?

her, here says...
7:54pm Thu 17 Jul 08

bloody hell someone help these kids ,they have all lost the plot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!

bb, London, s.e. says...
9:55am Fri 18 Jul 08

In response to Jess;

When I was at school we were taught to use a capital I. In case this was wrong I looked it up and found the following;

The personal pronoun 'I' is always written with a capital letter.


So maybe you need to go back to school and learn how to write properly. Also, there should be an apostrophe in "Im".

There may just be something in the fact that we don't believe children are very well educated.

Jess, ninas says...
8:12pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Oh ye oops lol why ruin my comment :(. Oh well still predicted a B in my english so HA

Lisa, kent says...
1:41am Sat 19 Jul 08

oh dear

bb, London, s.e. says...
8:25am Sat 19 Jul 08

In response to N, London;

You obviously had a very poor education and are barely literate. I won't even start to correct your mistakes. My comment about checking was meant to be tongue in cheek, but you clearly don't have the intelligence to see that.
I note that Jess took my comments with good grace, and you never know might actually have learnt something.
I did actually think that Jess had a valid point in;
Perhaps it has something to do with the way adults have brought them up


I couldn't agree more. There are far too many adults who have no parenting skills and yet still insist on bringing children into the world. I say you should need to pass a test before you're allowed to have children.

Please remember we were all teenagers once as well, but I hope that I had more respect for adults than most of the kids I see today.

By the way if you are a teenager you have just proved the point that teenagers are completely rude and obnoxious. If I was of a sensitive disposition I would ask for your comment to be removed as it could be deemed to be offensive. However, I am big enough to let it stay so that others can see your reaction.

Me, at home says...
11:33am Sat 19 Jul 08

I think we are forgetting point here!It not about spelling and grammer!This about a boy being very stupid (driving a car with no licence tax mot insurance etc)I do feel thou that as a mother myself I would would feel disgusted if a child of mine did something like this.We live in a world where children are having children.I do agree that most youths these days think the world owes them and they think they have the right to do as they please but then again there is nothing for them to do.When I was a child we had clubs to go to and they were open during school hoildays theres nothing for them nowdays so I guess their fun is doing what they want!!!Do you not think its time to change?I would actually be scared for my childen to play out!

Debbie, London says...
7:47pm Sat 19 Jul 08

stu - was that a tongue in cheek response or (as I suspect) a from the heart response. Please would all of you street talkers ensure that if you post comments, we can read them too!!! I find most of the "nufink, wana" ending in "z" posts are REALLY hard to follow, and you all come across as complete thicko's. Text speak or not, it isn't legible!

beth, Orpington says...
7:54pm Sat 19 Jul 08

When I was 16 I was in a very serious car crash with a boy and his mate we all should have died! he did have a licence and insurance etc and was peerfectly legal but he was 17 and driving stupid!! Im now 18 and one of my mates george mosedale he is on here if you look him up! died in a car crash a lil bit ago it makes u realise how thankful you are for your life but you wont until it happens to you! when i was in the car crash i thought hmm ye i sruvived but it has stopped me from driving fast but thats the last i thought about it! it dusnt sink home until someone dies! and it shouldnt be like that"! i think you little girls need to grow up and face the facts that most of the people on here have mopre experience in life than you i was like you once but wait till something really does happen to you one day".. stop trying to be big and sit back and listen.. and as for saying stupid presents '' lets home all them presents your mum and dad buy for you for your christmas or birthday get damaged! it wouldnt upset you or your parents who bought them! it would at your age now think of 5 year old children!..

beth, orpington says...
7:59pm Sat 19 Jul 08

I was ment to write hope all them presents... not home sorry

tango, dartford says...
7:59pm Sat 19 Jul 08

my two penneth - i'm glad the lady and her family in the house are ok.
i'm also glad that there were not any more teenage deaths on our streets - not that i agree with what happened. lastly, as said by 'debbie' - english please not text speak because i can't keep up with the posts either and i think a majority of you may have something relevant to say.

the end

Paul, says...
8:33am Mon 21 Jul 08

Do i have any proof they have a better education than most of us ? Do I need it ? Most of the kids on here have put reasonable arguments across without the need for calling people chavs or pikeys, something the so called grown ups are not capable of doing. Of course the standard of education has gone up, 20 years ago you wouldnt even have seen a pc in a class room, and the mere fact you dont have the brains to actually realise this, well it shows they got a better education than you eh ! Even when the kids type in plain english, you cant argue the point with them, oh no they are to clever for you, all you ponces can do is pick up that they never pushed the shift key at the same time they typed the letter I, or never used a "'" in the word I'm, what great examples you all set these children ! How to be direspectful hateful and hurtful...........an
d you then wonder why they respond in kind....children take example from their elders, bought time some of them started to act like the mature responsible caring human beings they try and make out they are and " SET AN EXAMPLE "

bb, London, s.e. says...
9:37am Mon 21 Jul 08

Paul, you are obviously not very intelligent. Please don't assume we all received the poor level of education that you did. I was at school 20 years ago and I had just started my O' Level in Computer Studies, so yes we did have PC's in our school. I don't think it is disrespectful to point out people's mistakes. If you are never told that you are wrong how would you ever improve yourself. The comments I did make were made to a teenager who proudly states that they will be getting a grade B in English. I'm sorry, but 20 years ago if you didn't know when to capitalise you would not even be sitting a GCE exam, you would have been in the CSE classes. Unfortunately, because of Labour's tendency to try and make everyone mediocre, we are in a situation where teenagers are leaving school thinking that they know everything. I actually feel sorry for them. They are being pushed into University courses which most of them aren't capable of - this has been shown by the vast numbers of drop outs year on year. As a result of this most of them will be in some considerable debt by the time they actually start their working life. Degrees have been dumbed down also, so that more people are getting First Class degrees that they would never have got 20 years ago. Employers are going to be a lot more selective in future and I wouldn't be surprised to see graduates struggling to find work, unless they are prepared to accept McDonalds as a career choice.

If you notice, I did point out later that I thought Jess had a valid point. Presumably you were so incensed at my original "dig" that you didn't bother reading further down. This proves your ignorance!

Paul, says...
2:13pm Wed 23 Jul 08

bb wrote:
Paul, you are obviously not very intelligent. Please don't assume we all received the poor level of education that you did. I was at school 20 years ago and I had just started my O' Level in Computer Studies, so yes we did have PC's in our school. I don't think it is disrespectful to point out people's mistakes. If you are never told that you are wrong how would you ever improve yourself. The comments I did make were made to a teenager who proudly states that they will be getting a grade B in English. I'm sorry, but 20 years ago if you didn't know when to capitalise you would not even be sitting a GCE exam, you would have been in the CSE classes. Unfortunately, because of Labour's tendency to try and make everyone mediocre, we are in a situation where teenagers are leaving school thinking that they know everything. I actually feel sorry for them. They are being pushed into University courses which most of them aren't capable of - this has been shown by the vast numbers of drop outs year on year. As a result of this most of them will be in some considerable debt by the time they actually start their working life. Degrees have been dumbed down also, so that more people are getting First Class degrees that they would never have got 20 years ago. Employers are going to be a lot more selective in future and I wouldn't be surprised to see graduates struggling to find work, unless they are prepared to accept McDonalds as a career choice. If you notice, I did point out later that I thought Jess had a valid point. Presumably you were so incensed at my original "dig" that you didn't bother reading further down. This proves your ignorance!
Your a liar, what did you have then ? in the way of a pc ?
and where did you goto school ? pcs, way back then were not desk top for a start, so how exactly did your school have one ? sniff sniff, can you all smell that....the sweet smell of bull s**t, as for having a better education than me, dream on pal. The meer fact your arguments seem to always contain putting someone down or bigging youself up only goes to show what a poorly educated sad little moron you are ! Oh and when it comes to ignorance, you take first place !

bb, London, s.e. says...
6:28pm Wed 23 Jul 08