A 58-YEAR-OLD man has died after being hit by a train at Swanscombe railway station.
Police say the Swanscombe man jumped onto the tracks and he was declared dead at the scene at around 8.25pm last night (July 8).
The 7.21pm service between Charing Cross and Gillingham was travelling at around 60mph when the incident happened.
His next of kin have been informed and the incident is not being treated as suspicious.
The railway line was re-opened at 9.30pm.
Did you know the man? Call the newsroom on 01689 885725.
12:25pm Wednesday 9th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: Worker, Bromley on 1:35pm Wed 9 Jul 08
Poor train driver and the other unfortunate people who had to clear up the mess.
Poor train driver and the other unfortunate people who had to clear up the mess.
Posted by: h, london on 3:02pm Wed 9 Jul 08
Y DO PEOPLE HAVE TO JUMP IN FRONT OF TRAINS,THE DRIVER IS PROBABLY IN BITS,,AND PEOPLE GET HOME LATE...SILLY FOOL
Y DO PEOPLE HAVE TO JUMP IN FRONT OF TRAINS,THE DRIVER IS PROBABLY IN BITS,,AND PEOPLE GET HOME LATE...SILLY FOOL
Posted by: mt on 3:11pm Wed 9 Jul 08
[quote][bold]h[/bold] wrote:
Y DO PEOPLE HAVE TO JUMP IN FRONT OF TRAINS,THE DRIVER IS PROBABLY IN BITS,,AND PEOPLE GET HOME LATE...SILLY FOOL[/quote] what a stupid question H. people who commit suicide are only selfish to the living, do you really think someone in their right mind would do that?????
h wrote:
Y DO PEOPLE HAVE TO JUMP IN FRONT OF TRAINS,THE DRIVER IS PROBABLY IN BITS,,AND PEOPLE GET HOME LATE...SILLY FOOL
what a stupid question H. people who commit suicide are only selfish to the living, do you really think someone in their right mind would do that?????
Posted by: lucinda, ramsgate on 3:14pm Wed 9 Jul 08
i felt that the comment the other people have not consided that the person fellings before he took hisown life[bold]bold[/bold] [quote]quote[/quote]
i felt that the comment the other people have not consided that the person fellings before he took hisown life
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Posted by: june on 3:51pm Wed 9 Jul 08
lucinda i agree with you nobody knows what he was going through think before you comment.
r.i.p o a very brave man xxx
lucinda i agree with you nobody knows what he was going through think before you comment.
r.i.p o a very brave man xxx
Posted by: Me, Here on 3:54pm Wed 9 Jul 08
If this man wanted to take his own life he should not have involved other people.The train driver,passengers and on lookers will have to endure these horrific memories and visions probably for months or even years to come.And what about the unfortunate people who had to clear him up - very selfish is my opinion he should have taken an overdose and gone to bed.
If this man wanted to take his own life he should not have involved other people.The train driver,passengers and on lookers will have to endure these horrific memories and visions probably for months or even years to come.And what about the unfortunate people who had to clear him up - very selfish is my opinion he should have taken an overdose and gone to bed.
Posted by: Susie, Bexley on 3:55pm Wed 9 Jul 08
Sorry I must disagree how does taking your own life make you a "very brave man" to stay on earth and battle your demonds makes you a very brave man! When I was a child a women threw herself off a bridge by my house and landed on a coach full of 5-9 years old should we have all been saying what a brave women she run away from her problems lets appluded her, I must assure you it was quite the opposite, selfish cow probally mentally screwed up alot of those kids for a very a long while if not to this day!!
Sorry I must disagree how does taking your own life make you a "very brave man" to stay on earth and battle your demonds makes you a very brave man! When I was a child a women threw herself off a bridge by my house and landed on a coach full of 5-9 years old should we have all been saying what a brave women she run away from her problems lets appluded her, I must assure you it was quite the opposite, selfish cow probally mentally screwed up alot of those kids for a very a long while if not to this day!!
Posted by: ann on 4:01pm Wed 9 Jul 08
susie you dont know what you are talking about, sometimes you can stay and no matter how much people tell you it will be ok it wont ,you are so lucky that you dont feel like it.
godblessxxxxx
susie you dont know what you are talking about, sometimes you can stay and no matter how much people tell you it will be ok it wont ,you are so lucky that you dont feel like it.
godblessxxxxx
Posted by: Susie, Bexley on 4:07pm Wed 9 Jul 08
How little you know ann I've been sectioned, on about 4 occassions cause I felt like this and tried it, but all it takes is to ask for a lil help off the right people and you get the help you need! So think about things before you assume them ah darling!! I know exactley what I am talking about prob better than you do!!
How little you know ann I've been sectioned, on about 4 occassions cause I felt like this and tried it, but all it takes is to ask for a lil help off the right people and you get the help you need! So think about things before you assume them ah darling!! I know exactley what I am talking about prob better than you do!!
Posted by: dave, Dartford on 4:18pm Wed 9 Jul 08
I think you guys have been very hard on the poor guy. He obviously couldn't get the help he needed to turn his life around and paid with his life. Some people bottle it all up until they snap and dont have anywhere to turn when it all goes wrong. I still feel for the people who were indirectly involved however the guy was not a coward and equally not in his right mind. He prob acted on impulse. RIP
I think you guys have been very hard on the poor guy. He obviously couldn't get the help he needed to turn his life around and paid with his life. Some people bottle it all up until they snap and dont have anywhere to turn when it all goes wrong. I still feel for the people who were indirectly involved however the guy was not a coward and equally not in his right mind. He prob acted on impulse. RIP
Posted by: Pink Kitten, London on 4:25pm Wed 9 Jul 08
If the man felt low enough to jump infront of a train then I'm sure the last thing on his mind was other people. Wrong or right that's the truth of it.
It's a shame that things got that bad for him RIP.
If the man felt low enough to jump infront of a train then I'm sure the last thing on his mind was other people. Wrong or right that's the truth of it.
It's a shame that things got that bad for him RIP.
Posted by: june on 4:37pm Wed 9 Jul 08
well said pink kitten you dont think of other people you just dont want to be here anymore.
r.i.p mate sleep tight
well said pink kitten you dont think of other people you just dont want to be here anymore.
r.i.p mate sleep tight
Posted by: Swanscombe resident, dartford on 4:43pm Wed 9 Jul 08
Whatever was going through that man's head, I can't help thinking he was a bit selfish. The only other people in the station were 4 teenagers, my daughter was one of them.
They are all traumatised by what they saw. He did it right in front of them.
Whatever was going through that man's head, I can't help thinking he was a bit selfish. The only other people in the station were 4 teenagers, my daughter was one of them.
They are all traumatised by what they saw. He did it right in front of them.
Posted by: teenage eyewittness, dartford on 4:56pm Wed 9 Jul 08
I am swanscombe resident's daughter.
He looked like a normal man so god only knows what was going through his mind. Me and my 3 friends were so shocked at what happened. In a way I just wish i knew what he was about to do and convinced him not to do it.
I feel guilty I never noticed anything was wrong. And I feel bad to have seen him like that.
I am swanscombe resident's daughter.
He looked like a normal man so god only knows what was going through his mind. Me and my 3 friends were so shocked at what happened. In a way I just wish i knew what he was about to do and convinced him not to do it.
I feel guilty I never noticed anything was wrong. And I feel bad to have seen him like that.
Posted by: lyn on 5:29pm Wed 9 Jul 08
im so sorry you had to see that darling.please forgive this man he must have been going through so much in his life. we may never know, i cant say i havent thought of doing this myself because i have but then i think of my children and i stop, you see by doing what he done there is no chance you will live.someone said take a overdose and go to bed but there is a chance some one could find him.plaese belive he didnt want to go on.hope you get over this soon sending you all my love ****
r.i.p you will suffer no more x
im so sorry you had to see that darling.please forgive this man he must have been going through so much in his life. we may never know, i cant say i havent thought of doing this myself because i have but then i think of my children and i stop, you see by doing what he done there is no chance you will live.someone said take a overdose and go to bed but there is a chance some one could find him.plaese belive he didnt want to go on.hope you get over this soon sending you all my love ****
r.i.p you will suffer no more x
Posted by: JD, Swanscombe on 10:11pm Wed 9 Jul 08
I live right by the station & watched the commotion from the window. I saw the Undertaker bring the body up in a body bag - it's an image that's haunted me all day. We're used to seeing things like that on TV, but that was a real person, whose body probably wasn't even cold - it shook me up.
I work for London Underground & I work with guys who have witnessed many suicides whilst driving Tube trains - it REALLY traumatises the drivers. This act of sucide is not guaranteed to be 'successful' - 65% of people who do this on the Tube survive (but are in a real mess) - I wish more people were aware of this statistic!
I feel for him & that he felt the need to do that, but it's an awful way to go - there are more peaceful ways to do it.
I live right by the station & watched the commotion from the window. I saw the Undertaker bring the body up in a body bag - it's an image that's haunted me all day. We're used to seeing things like that on TV, but that was a real person, whose body probably wasn't even cold - it shook me up.
I work for London Underground & I work with guys who have witnessed many suicides whilst driving Tube trains - it REALLY traumatises the drivers. This act of sucide is not guaranteed to be 'successful' - 65% of people who do this on the Tube survive (but are in a real mess) - I wish more people were aware of this statistic!
I feel for him & that he felt the need to do that, but it's an awful way to go - there are more peaceful ways to do it.
Posted by: Jack, Catford on 12:04am Thu 10 Jul 08
Well vern with the greatest of respect the least of his problems was who the hell was gonna clear up his body... Rest in perfect peace brave man
Well vern with the greatest of respect the least of his problems was who the hell was gonna clear up his body... Rest in perfect peace brave man
Posted by: Ron, Bexley on 8:12am Thu 10 Jul 08
My freind took their own life and i found that hard to cope with, but then the anger sets in if anyone has thoughts of doing this seek help, the people that are left behind live with the 'what if' over their heads for the rest of their lives.
Someone close to me attemted it 2 weeks ago and iam still so angry with them i cannot talk to them at present, it is hurtfull and very very painfull for the people left behind, I do hope this man rest in peace now, for his family iam sure they never will.
My freind took their own life and i found that hard to cope with, but then the anger sets in if anyone has thoughts of doing this seek help, the people that are left behind live with the 'what if' over their heads for the rest of their lives.
Someone close to me attemted it 2 weeks ago and iam still so angry with them i cannot talk to them at present, it is hurtfull and very very painfull for the people left behind, I do hope this man rest in peace now, for his family iam sure they never will.
Posted by: Susie on 10:24am Thu 10 Jul 08
I really don't see why your calling him a brave man, nothing in life is ever that bad, there maybe loads of bad things going on in your life but everything has a way of being sorted, nothing is ever as bad as it seems there is always someone worse off than you always, for example the staving children in africa, their parents are committing sucide, the troops in iraq if they all committed sucide we would be stuffed, he his not a brave man at all, his left his family to deal with his problems, no bravery in it!!
I really don't see why your calling him a brave man, nothing in life is ever that bad, there maybe loads of bad things going on in your life but everything has a way of being sorted, nothing is ever as bad as it seems there is always someone worse off than you always, for example the staving children in africa, their parents are committing sucide, the troops in iraq if they all committed sucide we would be stuffed, he his not a brave man at all, his left his family to deal with his problems, no bravery in it!!
Posted by: Living in the REAL world on 1:16pm Thu 10 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Susie[/bold] wrote:
I really don't see why your calling him a brave man, nothing in life is ever that bad, there maybe loads of bad things going on in your life but everything has a way of being sorted, nothing is ever as bad as it seems there is always someone worse off than you always, for example the staving children in africa, their parents are committing sucide, the troops in iraq if they all committed sucide we would be stuffed, he his not a brave man at all, his left his family to deal with his problems, no bravery in it!![/quote] You really have your head in the clouds !
You have not got a clue what you are talking about!
Susie wrote:
I really don't see why your calling him a brave man, nothing in life is ever that bad, there maybe loads of bad things going on in your life but everything has a way of being sorted, nothing is ever as bad as it seems there is always someone worse off than you always, for example the staving children in africa, their parents are committing sucide, the troops in iraq if they all committed sucide we would be stuffed, he his not a brave man at all, his left his family to deal with his problems, no bravery in it!!
You really have your head in the clouds !
You have not got a clue what you are talking about!
Posted by: C, Swanscombe on 4:16pm Thu 10 Jul 08
Dearest J - rest in peace you dear sweet man. There was no need - such a waste. Sorry I couldn't help you.
Dearest J - rest in peace you dear sweet man. There was no need - such a waste. Sorry I couldn't help you.
Posted by: D, Dartford on 10:46am Fri 11 Jul 08
Rest in peace J...
Rightly or wrongly, you did what you thought would take your pains away.
Rest in peace J...
Rightly or wrongly, you did what you thought would take your pains away.
Posted by: K, Swanscombe on 2:55pm Fri 11 Jul 08
J - your troubled mind is at now peace. Rest easy.
J - your troubled mind is at now peace. Rest easy.
Posted by: Hannah, London on 7:21pm Fri 11 Jul 08
Rest in peace and Heavens bless you. May the Stars offer you the help that you could not find here. Sleep well and worry no more.
Rest in peace and Heavens bless you. May the Stars offer you the help that you could not find here. Sleep well and worry no more.
Posted by: Sariska, Swanscombe on 7:22pm Fri 11 Jul 08
JC- you were a good man, loved and respected by all. i hope you have gone to a happier place X
JC- you were a good man, loved and respected by all. i hope you have gone to a happier place X
Posted by: anon, kent on 8:03pm Fri 11 Jul 08
Rest peacefully in heaven JC, I hope the angels are looking after you now you are one of them XXXXXXXXXX[bold]bold[/bold]
Rest peacefully in heaven JC, I hope the angels are looking after you now you are one of them XXXXXXXXXX
Posted by: a on 9:10pm Fri 11 Jul 08
you will be missed so much more than you know, you must have been going through so much, this wasnt like you RIP X
you will be missed so much more than you know, you must have been going through so much, this wasnt like you RIP X
Posted by: Claire, Swanscombe on 8:07pm Sat 12 Jul 08
Does anyone know this man's name? I've seen "JC" being put down but am trying to find out who the man was. Please Help.
Does anyone know this man's name? I've seen "JC" being put down but am trying to find out who the man was. Please Help.
Posted by: anon on 11:03pm Sun 13 Jul 08
[bold]bold[/bold] he was a much loved and respected man, people are not mentioning his name as we dont want his name dragged through the mud by people who did not know him.
[bold]bold[/bold]
he was a much loved and respected man, people are not mentioning his name as we dont want his name dragged through the mud by people who did not know him.
Posted by: nt on 7:43am Mon 14 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Ron[/bold] wrote:
My freind took their own life and i found that hard to cope with, but then the anger sets in if anyone has thoughts of doing this seek help, the people that are left behind live with the 'what if' over their heads for the rest of their lives. Someone close to me attemted it 2 weeks ago and iam still so angry with them i cannot talk to them at present, it is hurtfull and very very painfull for the people left behind, I do hope this man rest in peace now, for his family iam sure they never will.[/quote] i'm sure you are great support to your "friend" - not talking to them cos you are upset ?? how selfish of you.
Ron wrote:
My freind took their own life and i found that hard to cope with, but then the anger sets in if anyone has thoughts of doing this seek help, the people that are left behind live with the 'what if' over their heads for the rest of their lives. Someone close to me attemted it 2 weeks ago and iam still so angry with them i cannot talk to them at present, it is hurtfull and very very painfull for the people left behind, I do hope this man rest in peace now, for his family iam sure they never will.
i'm sure you are great support to your "friend" - not talking to them cos you are upset ?? how selfish of you.
Posted by: A, Belvedere on 1:21pm Mon 14 Jul 08
He was a lovely lovely man, who helped many through his work and his lovely personality, so sorry you could not get the help you needed JC. RIP xxx
He was a lovely lovely man, who helped many through his work and his lovely personality, so sorry you could not get the help you needed JC. RIP xxx
Posted by: stacey, DARTFORD on 4:34pm Mon 14 Jul 08
[bold]bold[/bold] [quote]quote[/quote] I worked with j all i can say is that he was a great man and this is a big shock,he will be missed by all that new him . ****
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I worked with j all i can say is that he was a great man and this is a big shock,he will be missed by all that new him . ****
Posted by: stacey, DARTFORD on 4:50pm Mon 14 Jul 08
To all the silly comments above, if u knew this man u would understand how very ill he would have been to take his own life .rip
To all the silly comments above, if u knew this man u would understand how very ill he would have been to take his own life .rip
Posted by: kopo, london on 1:11am Tue 15 Jul 08
a common cliche is 'there's two sides to a coin', what may seem a senseless, selfish act to some may be viewed in a completely different light by others.
knowing that a man took his life without regard for other people's sensibilities makes people feel they have the right to assume he was foolish and unwise, but knowing the person, his character, what made him who he was, how he helped us to be who we are; makes you realise that he was in a very desperate state, a person eager to help people felt that he could not be helped, a person bringing hope to countless many felt so hopeless... a person worthy of the joys of life who felt so worthless that he was driven to take his life in such a tragic and final way.
it makes you think about your own life, about the people you think are close to you, if they had problems would they talk to you, would they rely on you, would you listen, would you hear, would you care???
a common cliche is 'there's two sides to a coin', what may seem a senseless, selfish act to some may be viewed in a completely different light by others.
knowing that a man took his life without regard for other people's sensibilities makes people feel they have the right to assume he was foolish and unwise, but knowing the person, his character, what made him who he was, how he helped us to be who we are; makes you realise that he was in a very desperate state, a person eager to help people felt that he could not be helped, a person bringing hope to countless many felt so hopeless... a person worthy of the joys of life who felt so worthless that he was driven to take his life in such a tragic and final way.
it makes you think about your own life, about the people you think are close to you, if they had problems would they talk to you, would they rely on you, would you listen, would you hear, would you care???
Posted by: H2O, Dartford on 12:10pm Tue 15 Jul 08
JC has been a kind and hard working man all his life. This is such a tragedy and an unbelievable event that well out of anybody's hand. He always was keen to help others and had a smile on his face. He has been approachable and very professional although some people was not patient enought with him at times he never complained and was dedicated to his family at all times. No matter what we thought we could have done now [bold]DETERMINATION[/bold] of a person can never be overriden in such events. u will be greatly missed by all of us.
JC has been a kind and hard working man all his life. This is such a tragedy and an unbelievable event that well out of anybody's hand. He always was keen to help others and had a smile on his face. He has been approachable and very professional although some people was not patient enought with him at times he never complained and was dedicated to his family at all times. No matter what we thought we could have done now
DETERMINATION of a person can never be overriden in such events. u will be greatly missed by all of us.
Posted by: A, Belvedere on 1:46pm Tue 15 Jul 08
Again well said Stacy, this was not a man who was down on his luck. I had the priveledge to work with him and you could not have met a nicer man. Mind you it does bring a smile to my face recalling his command of english, I would prefer to think of him in a nice way, and perhaps sadly we all let him down. my sincere condolences to his family for the loss of such a lovely guy. xxxxxxxxxx
Again well said Stacy, this was not a man who was down on his luck. I had the priveledge to work with him and you could not have met a nicer man. Mind you it does bring a smile to my face recalling his command of english, I would prefer to think of him in a nice way, and perhaps sadly we all let him down. my sincere condolences to his family for the loss of such a lovely guy. xxxxxxxxxx
Posted by: x, swanscombe on 8:51pm Tue 15 Jul 08
370-768[quote]quote[/quote] I don't like to speak ill of the dead and obviously this man had problems, However I do deam this to be a selfish act, I live in view of the station and not only did I see what was going on, I have young children who are too innocent to know why a person would do such a thing. We find ourselves lying to our children about why there are people carrying something the size and shape of a human body out in a bag? In this day and age we have to protect our children from so many physical wrong doings as it is! Is it fair to lie about a person's selfish morbid act to prevent them from mental torment as well? It is bad enough that we lose our loved ones who go off and fight for our country and our childrens future? How selfish to leave people who loved him with not only grief but the guilt that they didn't stop him.
370-768
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I don't like to speak ill of the dead and obviously this man had problems, However I do deam this to be a selfish act, I live in view of the station and not only did I see what was going on, I have young children who are too innocent to know why a person would do such a thing. We find ourselves lying to our children about why there are people carrying something the size and shape of a human body out in a bag? In this day and age we have to protect our children from so many physical wrong doings as it is! Is it fair to lie about a person's selfish morbid act to prevent them from mental torment as well? It is bad enough that we lose our loved ones who go off and fight for our country and our childrens future? How selfish to leave people who loved him with not only grief but the guilt that they didn't stop him.
Posted by: anon, London on 9:11pm Tue 15 Jul 08
Another day for you to wonder, another day for you to mourn
It wasn't my intention to go before the coming dawn
My pain was deep within my heart and troubled head
It wasn't my intention to go without words said.
My frame of mind seemed normal, or so I heard them say
It wasn't my intention not to see another day
I did not mean to make you suffer or cause you so much pain
It wasn't my intention to never see you again.
Despair and confusion left my aching mind unsure
It wasn’t my intention to suddenly close life's door
If only I could give you reasons and brush the tears away
It wasn’t my intention to leave and not stay.
I did not mean for you to grieve, now left alone to cry
It wasn’t my intention to leave you, forever askinq why
As the burdens of life's worries slowly ebb from my heart
It wasn’t my intention to tear your soul apart.
Another day for you to wonder, another day for you to mourn
It wasn't my intention to go before the coming dawn
My pain was deep within my heart and troubled head
It wasn't my intention to go without words said.
My frame of mind seemed normal, or so I heard them say
It wasn't my intention not to see another day
I did not mean to make you suffer or cause you so much pain
It wasn't my intention to never see you again.
Despair and confusion left my aching mind unsure
It wasn’t my intention to suddenly close life's door
If only I could give you reasons and brush the tears away
It wasn’t my intention to leave and not stay.
I did not mean for you to grieve, now left alone to cry
It wasn’t my intention to leave you, forever askinq why
As the burdens of life's worries slowly ebb from my heart
It wasn’t my intention to tear your soul apart.
Posted by: W, Swanscombe on 11:57pm Tue 15 Jul 08
Good bye J. I have no idea what your problems were but they must have been unbearable. You poor man God Bless you. After this awful terrible tragedy my heart and love goes out to you and your wonderful family.
Good bye J. I have no idea what your problems were but they must have been unbearable. You poor man God Bless you. After this awful terrible tragedy my heart and love goes out to you and your wonderful family.
Posted by: Kate, London on 7:17pm Wed 16 Jul 08
Dearest J,
Everyone will miss you so very much!!! It was a huge shock and a massive sadness to everyone who knew you! We just wished that we could of helped you! You will always be in our hearts and we really feel for your family! This is such a tragic loss, as you were a fantastic, kind and loved friend and colleague! I just hope you can't see the in-appropriate messages that people have left on here!!!!
Dearest J,
Everyone will miss you so very much!!! It was a huge shock and a massive sadness to everyone who knew you! We just wished that we could of helped you! You will always be in our hearts and we really feel for your family! This is such a tragic loss, as you were a fantastic, kind and loved friend and colleague! I just hope you can't see the in-appropriate messages that people have left on here!!!!
Posted by: A Friend, Woodlands on 8:36am Thu 17 Jul 08
I would love to say this to his face that I could help but by all accounts this guy probably did try to seek help although where he looked clearly was not the right place or they may not have been listening, because sometimes people get wrapped up in there own lives and just don't recognise the signs.
I'm sure if he had of thought of the pain he would leave behind to the driver or any other witness and of course his family & friends then J would never have done this act as he respect others far more than hiself.
This will be a shock to his friends and family who probably feel guilty right now for not being there for him.
It is also clear that he saw no other way out and that hole can get deeper and deeper without support and I'm sad because he gave up the fight and wounder what I really would have done if he had asked me for help.
What I want to know from the indivduals who wrote some of them comments is how you can call someone selfish when this man clearly wasn't in his right mind especially when there are people killing other people in knife crime who are thinking clearly. also would like to add from other comments that reguardless of how he committed suicide someone would have found him and remove the body this is horrible reguardless, are you thinking of the fireman that pull burned bodies from fires or police or hospital staff who deal with the death of all age groups I don't think you think at all, so be a bit more real there is death all around its sad to think that more individuals aren't more real and out there helping preventing death rather than bit*hing about a poor soul that saw no other way of copying in life to take his own, which only a person in emotion pain would ever understand. I pity you who can't be realistic and think roses line our streets.
I pray this lost soul finds a resting place, R.I.P my thoughts are with you JC God bless x
I would love to say this to his face that I could help but by all accounts this guy probably did try to seek help although where he looked clearly was not the right place or they may not have been listening, because sometimes people get wrapped up in there own lives and just don't recognise the signs.
I'm sure if he had of thought of the pain he would leave behind to the driver or any other witness and of course his family & friends then J would never have done this act as he respect others far more than hiself.
This will be a shock to his friends and family who probably feel guilty right now for not being there for him.
It is also clear that he saw no other way out and that hole can get deeper and deeper without support and I'm sad because he gave up the fight and wounder what I really would have done if he had asked me for help.
What I want to know from the indivduals who wrote some of them comments is how you can call someone selfish when this man clearly wasn't in his right mind especially when there are people killing other people in knife crime who are thinking clearly. also would like to add from other comments that reguardless of how he committed suicide someone would have found him and remove the body this is horrible reguardless, are you thinking of the fireman that pull burned bodies from fires or police or hospital staff who deal with the death of all age groups I don't think you think at all, so be a bit more real there is death all around its sad to think that more individuals aren't more real and out there helping preventing death rather than bit*hing about a poor soul that saw no other way of copying in life to take his own, which only a person in emotion pain would ever understand. I pity you who can't be realistic and think roses line our streets.
I pray this lost soul finds a resting place, R.I.P my thoughts are with you JC God bless x
Posted by: Chloe on 8:37pm Thu 17 Jul 08
I was on the train that hit the man. Hearing him hit the bottom of the train was the most awful thing ever. Was stuck on the train for over 2 hours and luckily the driver kept everyone updated, although he did sound very upset. Not nice at all.
I was on the train that hit the man. Hearing him hit the bottom of the train was the most awful thing ever. Was stuck on the train for over 2 hours and luckily the driver kept everyone updated, although he did sound very upset. Not nice at all.
Posted by: anon on 7:43pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Dearest J, hope that you are happy and resting peacefully, you were such a kind hearted person XX
Dearest J, hope that you are happy and resting peacefully, you were such a kind hearted person XX
Posted by: A, Belvedere on 1:55am Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Chloe[/bold] wrote:
I was on the train that hit the man. Hearing him hit the bottom of the train was the most awful thing ever. Was stuck on the train for over 2 hours and luckily the driver kept everyone updated, although he did sound very upset. Not nice at all.[/quote] oh girl once again u lie!! bigging urself up! so u was in the front carriage??????? ur a nasty piece of work!!!!! Go AWAY DONT COME BACK FOOLISH LIAR
Chloe wrote:
I was on the train that hit the man. Hearing him hit the bottom of the train was the most awful thing ever. Was stuck on the train for over 2 hours and luckily the driver kept everyone updated, although he did sound very upset. Not nice at all.
oh girl once again u lie!! bigging urself up! so u was in the front carriage??????? ur a nasty piece of work!!!!! Go AWAY DONT COME BACK FOOLISH LIAR
Posted by: A, Belvedere on 2:16am Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]A Friend[/bold] wrote:
I would love to say this to his face that I could help but by all accounts this guy probably did try to seek help although where he looked clearly was not the right place or they may not have been listening, because sometimes people get wrapped up in there own lives and just don\'t recognise the signs. I\'m sure if he had of thought of the pain he would leave behind to the driver or any other witness and of course his family & friends then J would never have done this act as he respect others far more than hiself. This will be a shock to his friends and family who probably feel guilty right now for not being there for him. It is also clear that he saw no other way out and that hole can get deeper and deeper without support and I\'m sad because he gave up the fight and wounder what I really would have done if he had asked me for help. What I want to know from the indivduals who wrote some of them comments is how you can call someone selfish when this man clearly wasn\'t in his right mind especially when there are people killing other people in knife crime who are thinking clearly. also would like to add from other comments that reguardless of how he committed suicide someone would have found him and remove the body this is horrible reguardless, are you thinking of the fireman that pull burned bodies from fires or police or hospital staff who deal with the death of all age groups I don\'t think you think at all, so be a bit more real there is death all around its sad to think that more individuals aren\'t more real and out there helping preventing death rather than bit*hing about a poor soul that saw no other way of copying in life to take his own, which only a person in emotion pain would ever understand. I pity you who can\'t be realistic and think roses line our streets. I pray this lost soul finds a resting place, R.I.P my thoughts are with you JC God bless x[/quote] well done u! people dont realise the hurt and trauma we go through when looking after there mentally ill. Give em to us and we;ll make em right?? but dont ever forget we take them in our heads home at night!
When u have abandonded your love ones so dear, with mental illness! We are so near, as people who look after ur ill in the night we are the ones that can't sleep at night. We walk the night and look after ur friends but no one gives us a thought in the end .
A Friend wrote:
I would love to say this to his face that I could help but by all accounts this guy probably did try to seek help although where he looked clearly was not the right place or they may not have been listening, because sometimes people get wrapped up in there own lives and just don\'t recognise the signs. I\'m sure if he had of thought of the pain he would leave behind to the driver or any other witness and of course his family & friends then J would never have done this act as he respect others far more than hiself. This will be a shock to his friends and family who probably feel guilty right now for not being there for him. It is also clear that he saw no other way out and that hole can get deeper and deeper without support and I\'m sad because he gave up the fight and wounder what I really would have done if he had asked me for help. What I want to know from the indivduals who wrote some of them comments is how you can call someone selfish when this man clearly wasn\'t in his right mind especially when there are people killing other people in knife crime who are thinking clearly. also would like to add from other comments that reguardless of how he committed suicide someone would have found him and remove the body this is horrible reguardless, are you thinking of the fireman that pull burned bodies from fires or police or hospital staff who deal with the death of all age groups I don\'t think you think at all, so be a bit more real there is death all around its sad to think that more individuals aren\'t more real and out there helping preventing death rather than bit*hing about a poor soul that saw no other way of copying in life to take his own, which only a person in emotion pain would ever understand. I pity you who can\'t be realistic and think roses line our streets. I pray this lost soul finds a resting place, R.I.P my thoughts are with you JC God bless x
well done u! people dont realise the hurt and trauma we go through when looking after there mentally ill. Give em to us and we;ll make em right?? but dont ever forget we take them in our heads home at night!
When u have abandonded your love ones so dear, with mental illness! We are so near, as people who look after ur ill in the night we are the ones that can't sleep at night. We walk the night and look after ur friends but no one gives us a thought in the end .
Posted by: A, Belvedere on 2:27am Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Claire[/bold] wrote:
Does anyone know this man's name? I've seen "JC" being put down but am trying to find out who the man was. Please Help.[/quote] what a ghoul u are, why would u want to know????????? to give u some credence when chatting with friends!!!!!!! This man was far above u and ur gossiping friends!!!!!!!!
Claire wrote:
Does anyone know this man's name? I've seen "JC" being put down but am trying to find out who the man was. Please Help.
what a ghoul u are, why would u want to know????????? to give u some credence when chatting with friends!!!!!!! This man was far above u and ur gossiping friends!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Rev E.Chambers, Bexley on 10:36am Sun 20 Jul 08
voices are to most what space dust is to many.why take the trough to the donkey when its grass is sweeter on the other side ?
when a man takes off his shoes only then are the bunions visable.
take heed go to the light for many grains are being forsaken at the temple of the morish.
Amen
voices are to most what space dust is to many.why take the trough to the donkey when its grass is sweeter on the other side ?
when a man takes off his shoes only then are the bunions visable.
take heed go to the light for many grains are being forsaken at the temple of the morish.
Amen
Posted by: Kathryn, Swanscombe on 10:58am Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]A[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Claire[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know this man\'s name? I\'ve seen \"JC\" being put down but am trying to find out who the man was. Please Help.[/quote] what a ghoul u are, why would u want to know????????? to give u some credence when chatting with friends!!!!!!! This man was far above u and ur gossiping friends!!!!!!!! [/quote] Dear A of Belvedere
This lady is [bold]NOT[/bold] a ghoul or a gossip. She is a friend of mine and was very worried and upset about this news. She was worried because she knowns that J was a very close friend of mine. Unfortunately the news she heard was correct which I confirmed to her myself.
I love this family dearly and have done for 17 years. When I say they are close I mean it. I still cannot get over the fact that I won't see J everyday anymore. None of his family and and close friends knew what was going on in his mind. If we did ... who knows.
All of his family and friends are missing him dreadfully so for all you people making nasty comments just [bold]SHUT UP[/bold].
As for Vern of West Wickham, you unpleasant, nasty piece of work - don't get me started ...
A wrote:
Claire wrote: Does anyone know this man\'s name? I\'ve seen \"JC\" being put down but am trying to find out who the man was. Please Help.
what a ghoul u are, why would u want to know????????? to give u some credence when chatting with friends!!!!!!! This man was far above u and ur gossiping friends!!!!!!!!
Dear A of Belvedere
This lady is
NOT a ghoul or a gossip. She is a friend of mine and was very worried and upset about this news. She was worried because she knowns that J was a very close friend of mine. Unfortunately the news she heard was correct which I confirmed to her myself.
I love this family dearly and have done for 17 years. When I say they are close I mean it. I still cannot get over the fact that I won't see J everyday anymore. None of his family and and close friends knew what was going on in his mind. If we did ... who knows.
All of his family and friends are missing him dreadfully so for all you people making nasty comments just
SHUT UP.
As for Vern of West Wickham, you unpleasant, nasty piece of work - don't get me started ...
Posted by: Me, Here on 11:27am Mon 21 Jul 08
makes you wonder if some of these people are the'genuine friend' they claim to be eh?
makes you wonder if some of these people are the'genuine friend' they claim to be eh?
Posted by: dan, abbey wood, abbey wood on 12:15pm Mon 21 Jul 08
too right none of the comments were offensive so why you get them removed? you cant remove comments if you didnt write them yourself. stop relishing other ppls misfortune and checking this site 200 times a day.
too right none of the comments were offensive so why you get them removed? you cant remove comments if you didnt write them yourself. stop relishing other ppls misfortune and checking this site 200 times a day.
Posted by: A friend, London on 7:31pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Dearest J,
You will be missed more than you know. Such an amazing person, kind, sweet and generous. Such a great laugh and smile that will never be forgotten. Rest in peace XX
Dearest J,
You will be missed more than you know. Such an amazing person, kind, sweet and generous. Such a great laugh and smile that will never be forgotten. Rest in peace XX
Posted by: Kay, Erith on 12:37pm Thu 24 Jul 08
People who take their own life are only trying to take the easy way out of problem instead of facing them and dealing with their problems.
There are people you can talk about problems with. Debtlines, sexual abuse lines, sexuality, racismn, religion etc. There isn't any reason for him to take the easy way out because no matter how much problems a person is going through there is always someone much worse off dealing with it.
Any who this guy had no consideration for his friends or family, let alone the train driver and the passengers.
I feel for him if he killed himself to join a lost loved-one but it still does not make it right to do it in this manner.
People who take their own life are only trying to take the easy way out of problem instead of facing them and dealing with their problems.
There are people you can talk about problems with. Debtlines, sexual abuse lines, sexuality, racismn, religion etc. There isn't any reason for him to take the easy way out because no matter how much problems a person is going through there is always someone much worse off dealing with it.
Any who this guy had no consideration for his friends or family, let alone the train driver and the passengers.
I feel for him if he killed himself to join a lost loved-one but it still does not make it right to do it in this manner.
Posted by: J on 12:29pm Sun 27 Jul 08
You dont know this man or his situation, i wonder have you ever felt suicidal? doubt it or then you might understand!!
RIP JC XXX
You dont know this man or his situation, i wonder have you ever felt suicidal? doubt it or then you might understand!!
RIP JC XXX
Posted by: a friend on 7:28pm Mon 18 Aug 08
Still thinking of you, hope you are happy up there mate ****
Still thinking of you, hope you are happy up there mate ****
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