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Discuss: English independence

10:28am Friday 4th July 2008

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By Simon Bull »

TODAY is American Independence Day - but what do you think about more independence for the English?

Earlier this week a Conservative taskforce proposed that MPs from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should have fewer powers over legislation which only affects England.

Measures for England are currently decided by the full parliament in Westminster, and MPs from around the UK can vote.

A Scottish MP is currently able to vote on matters affecting only England, such as university fees, but English MPs do not have the same say on some of the same issues in Scotland.

What do you think? Would a system of English votes for English laws be fairer? Should there be separate parliaments for the four countries in the UK? Or would changes to the current set-up spell the end of the Union?

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Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott, The Distillery says...
11:11am Fri 4 Jul 08

The Scots get a better deal than the English, as far as Your Lord is concerned.

They have more access to medicines than the English and they do not have to pay university fees.

I think we should learn some lessons from Scotland.

Regarding the voting system, it seems hardly fair that a Scottish MP is able to vote on English issues but not vice versa. After all, would a Scot be allowed to play football for England?

Another good thing about the Scottish is that they export very nice whisky.

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

j, bromley says...
12:02pm Fri 4 Jul 08

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott wrote:
The Scots get a better deal than the English, as far as Your Lord is concerned. They have more access to medicines than the English and they do not have to pay university fees. I think we should learn some lessons from Scotland. Regarding the voting system, it seems hardly fair that a Scottish MP is able to vote on English issues but not vice versa. After all, would a Scot be allowed to play football for England? Another good thing about the Scottish is that they export very nice whisky. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
Well said. I agree.
They also pay the care home fees for their elderly folk.

We've got a shoddy deal at the moment and none seems to be looking after our interests.




Tigs, says...
12:06pm Fri 4 Jul 08

Has everyone forgotten that our country is currently being run by a Scot!!! Also high up MP's like Alister Darling too!

Gemma, Belvedere says...
12:47pm Fri 4 Jul 08

I reckon let Scotland become Independent and see how long they can keep free university education and free prescriptions going!

Bewstan, Dartford says...
2:25pm Fri 4 Jul 08

I'm fed up with all the privileges the Scots and the Welsh enjoy. They want independance I say give it to them, they have been a ball and chain on our economy for years. If they left the Union they'd be 2 of the poorest nations in Europe!

Anne, orpington says...
2:31pm Fri 4 Jul 08

if we are not allowed to vote on things that affect scotland then they should not be allowed to vote on things that affect us fairs fair. Only prob is most of our government are scottish. oh well. Our current prime minister would not get a say, ha, sounds good to me. seeing as he does not give us a say when it comes to things that would affect us. again fairs fair.

Phil, barnehurst says...
12:34pm Mon 7 Jul 08

Cant wait for the Scots and welsh to become independent!. We'll leave the E.U. then they will have to figure out how to get their lorries to Dover as we will put in our own border crossings. Ha HA! good riddance whingers. Look at the southern irish,couldn't wait to get rid of us,then they all came over here to live with us!

doc, Ireland says...
9:44pm Mon 7 Jul 08

Phil you sadden and anoy me in equal messure.
If it was not for the Irish you would have no roads or building`s
or pubs left.
Phil i will not wast my intelagents on you any more.

doc, scotland says...
9:47pm Mon 7 Jul 08

The north sea oil is in scotish water.

Phil, barnehurst says...
6:21am Wed 9 Jul 08

Oh yeh we never had any roads,pubs or buildings before 1945!North sea oil is all the scots have to offer,let them keep it!

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