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Youth was shot during burglary
TWO teenagers have been convicted of a burglary in which a 19-year-old man was shot three times.
Esse Sonron, aged 19, Tunde Otubanjo, 18, and a third unidentified man got into the ground-floor flat in Sydenham through an open window.
When the teenage resident tried to protect his 17-year-old brother from the masked raiders he was shot in the cheek, shoulder and mouth.
The burglars escaped with just a laptop computer and a set of keys, the Old Bailey heard on Wednesday (May 14).
The victim had grabbed a knife from the kitchen to defend himself and his brother and began scuffling with the raiders.
He was shot when they first burst into his flat in Bell Green Lane on May 2 last year and again during the fight.
One bullet hit his cheek and lodged in his neck near to an artery. A second hit his shoulder blade and a third was recovered from his mouth.
Sonron, who was badly cut in the fight, was forced out of the flat door and driven to hospital by his accomplices.
Otubanjo, of Burnham Road, Dartford, and Sonron, of Lewisham Road, Lewisham, were both arrested later that afternoon at Lewisham Hospital.
They were both found guilty of aggravated burglary.
Both were cleared of attempted murder and Otubanjo was also acquitted of wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm.
Sonron also faced a wounding charge but the jury could not agree a verdict. He will find out later today (May 16) if he will face a retrial.
Both men will be sentenced for the burglary at a later date and were remanded in custody.
2:43pm Friday 16th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: cassie, bromley on 1:43am Sat 17 May 08
no charge re carrying/using firearm(s)?
no charge re carrying/using firearm(s)?
Posted by: Me, Swanley on 9:22am Sat 17 May 08
Send the scum back to their countries of origin......[bold]bold[/bold]
Send the scum back to their countries of origin......
Posted by: tasha, crayford on 2:40pm Sat 17 May 08
me, i agree with you. im fed up of people like these bringing our country down! england needs to sort it out!!
me, i agree with you. im fed up of people like these bringing our country down! england needs to sort it out!!
Posted by: Jason Lewis, Camberwell on 6:44pm Sat 17 May 08
I am sick to death of these sorts of crimes most of which are committed by a certain ethnic minority. I am told that once upon a time - pre 1950 - that London was a safe place to live. Immigration has been a disaster for London and what has been done needs undoing! Bring back old London I say!
I am sick to death of these sorts of crimes most of which are committed by a certain ethnic minority. I am told that once upon a time - pre 1950 - that London was a safe place to live. Immigration has been a disaster for London and what has been done needs undoing! Bring back old London I say!
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 11:35pm Sat 17 May 08
[quote][bold]Jason Lewis[/bold] wrote:
I am sick to death of these sorts of crimes most of which are committed by a certain ethnic minority. I am told that once upon a time - pre 1950 - that London was a safe place to live. Immigration has been a disaster for London and what has been done needs undoing! Bring back old London I say![/quote] You know what I'm sick of...the PC brigade who jump down your throat every time an indigenous man is convicted of being a serial killer or a paedophile or a child murderer, and you dare to even question why it is that indigenous men are more likely to become serial killers or paedophiles or child murderers.
I mean the evidence is clear: Dennis Nilsen (indigenous), Peter Sutcliffe (indigenous), Harold Shipman (indigenous), Ian Huntley (indigenous), Michael Stone (indigenous), Colin Ireland (indigenous), Steve Wright (indigenous), Ian Brady (indigenous), Fred West (indigenous)...
...and football hooligans. Why are football hooligans always white men?
Makes you mad doesn't it, though you can't say anything these days. Whatever happened to free speech eh? This country is going to the dogs/hell in a handcart (delete to taste) and on and on and on into infinity...
Jason Lewis wrote:
I am sick to death of these sorts of crimes most of which are committed by a certain ethnic minority. I am told that once upon a time - pre 1950 - that London was a safe place to live. Immigration has been a disaster for London and what has been done needs undoing! Bring back old London I say!
You know what I'm sick of...the PC brigade who jump down your throat every time an indigenous man is convicted of being a serial killer or a paedophile or a child murderer, and you dare to even question why it is that indigenous men are more likely to become serial killers or paedophiles or child murderers.
I mean the evidence is clear: Dennis Nilsen (indigenous), Peter Sutcliffe (indigenous), Harold Shipman (indigenous), Ian Huntley (indigenous), Michael Stone (indigenous), Colin Ireland (indigenous), Steve Wright (indigenous), Ian Brady (indigenous), Fred West (indigenous)...
...and football hooligans. Why are football hooligans always white men?
Makes you mad doesn't it, though you can't say anything these days. Whatever happened to free speech eh? This country is going to the dogs/hell in a handcart (delete to taste) and on and on and on into infinity...
Posted by: PAUL, HERE on 4:46pm Sun 18 May 08
AT LEAST 1 OF THEM GOT CUT THATS SOMTHING I SUPPOSE ID STAB ANY 1 THAT EVEN TRIED TO COME NEAR MY HOUSE.THEY SHOULD ALL BE CHARGED WITH ATTEMPTED MURDER AND FIREARMS CHARGES DIRTY SCUM ..
AT LEAST 1 OF THEM GOT CUT THATS SOMTHING I SUPPOSE ID STAB ANY 1 THAT EVEN TRIED TO COME NEAR MY HOUSE.THEY SHOULD ALL BE CHARGED WITH ATTEMPTED MURDER AND FIREARMS CHARGES DIRTY SCUM ..
Posted by: jo, Beckenham on 9:03am Mon 19 May 08
mmm this sets a good example to others...unbelievabl
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mmm this sets a good example to others...unbelievabl
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Posted by: William, London on 11:42am Mon 19 May 08
The only thing is Sisyphus, is that the bunch of indigenous looneys that you've quoted are few and far between, whereas the 'certain ethnic minority' that Jason refers to commit crime every day and all too often, if you walk out late at night on your own, Dennis Nielson is the last thing on your mind. I may be wrong but if you carried out a poll on what people were scared when walking alone in London, I think Jasons 'theory' may come out on top.
The only thing is Sisyphus, is that the bunch of indigenous looneys that you've quoted are few and far between, whereas the 'certain ethnic minority' that Jason refers to commit crime every day and all too often, if you walk out late at night on your own, Dennis Nielson is the last thing on your mind. I may be wrong but if you carried out a poll on what people were scared when walking alone in London, I think Jasons 'theory' may come out on top.
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 12:18pm Mon 19 May 08
William, you were shocked to be branded a racist on the Jimmy Mizen story but you have expressed blatantly racist views on this story and others over the past few days.
The examples of white criminals Sisyphus gave were EXTREME examples to ram home the point that white people are as likely to be criminals as anyone else. Yes, the examples he gave were all murderers but when it comes to 'minor' crime the same point applies - muggers, thieves, burglars, thugs ... there are as many white criminals as there are of any other race.
Why are people such as you so desperate to attach colour, nationality or immigration status to every crime that is reported? And why are certain people so prejudiced towards all crime only being committed by certain ethnic groups? Don't worry about answering those questions, I already know why.
William, you were shocked to be branded a racist on the Jimmy Mizen story but you have expressed blatantly racist views on this story and others over the past few days.
The examples of white criminals Sisyphus gave were EXTREME examples to ram home the point that white people are as likely to be criminals as anyone else. Yes, the examples he gave were all murderers but when it comes to 'minor' crime the same point applies - muggers, thieves, burglars, thugs ... there are as many white criminals as there are of any other race.
Why are people such as you so desperate to attach colour, nationality or immigration status to every crime that is reported? And why are certain people so prejudiced towards all crime only being committed by certain ethnic groups? Don't worry about answering those questions, I already know why.
Posted by: DavidW, Plumstead on 1:27pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Harry Brown[/bold] wrote:
William, you were shocked to be branded a racist on the Jimmy Mizen story but you have expressed blatantly racist views on this story and others over the past few days. The examples of white criminals Sisyphus gave were EXTREME examples to ram home the point that white people are as likely to be criminals as anyone else. Yes, the examples he gave were all murderers but when it comes to 'minor' crime the same point applies - muggers, thieves, burglars, thugs ... there are as many white criminals as there are of any other race. Why are people such as you so desperate to attach colour, nationality or immigration status to every crime that is reported? And why are certain people so prejudiced towards all crime only being committed by certain ethnic groups? Don't worry about answering those questions, I already know why.[/quote] Harry, the reason you don't want the answers is because you don't like the reality and the truth. It's too hard for you to swallow down that idealistic throat!
Harry Brown wrote:
William, you were shocked to be branded a racist on the Jimmy Mizen story but you have expressed blatantly racist views on this story and others over the past few days. The examples of white criminals Sisyphus gave were EXTREME examples to ram home the point that white people are as likely to be criminals as anyone else. Yes, the examples he gave were all murderers but when it comes to 'minor' crime the same point applies - muggers, thieves, burglars, thugs ... there are as many white criminals as there are of any other race. Why are people such as you so desperate to attach colour, nationality or immigration status to every crime that is reported? And why are certain people so prejudiced towards all crime only being committed by certain ethnic groups? Don't worry about answering those questions, I already know why.
Harry, the reason you don't want the answers is because you don't like the reality and the truth. It's too hard for you to swallow down that idealistic throat!
Posted by: William, London on 1:54pm Mon 19 May 08
Looks like my post didn't make it through?
Arry my old Wally, I find it funny that you can make your usual lies up about me and call me a racist again, it's people like you that make society scared to say anything, after all Sisyphus does ask the question, "What has happened to free speech?" Well Sisyphus it's because of people like Wally Brown that people cant have a decent debate about it, I've made a comment regarding yours and before you have a chance to reply up pops PC Brown and I'm a racist!
Arry, you really are a wally.
Looks like my post didn't make it through?
Arry my old Wally, I find it funny that you can make your usual lies up about me and call me a racist again, it's people like you that make society scared to say anything, after all Sisyphus does ask the question, "What has happened to free speech?" Well Sisyphus it's because of people like Wally Brown that people cant have a decent debate about it, I've made a comment regarding yours and before you have a chance to reply up pops PC Brown and I'm a racist!
Arry, you really are a wally.
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 2:08pm Mon 19 May 08
Willy, don't embarrass yourself. You obviously don't credit other people with as much intelligence as they deserve. Anyone who regularly visits this site will have seen several comments from you over the past week or so which have been blatantly racist. You can play the hurt puppy dog "I haven't done nothing wrong guv, honest" role if you like but people will see straight through it.
To qoute you: The 'certain ethnic minority' that Jason refers to commit crime every day and all too often.
If that isn't a racist comment then tell me what would be? A 'certain ethnic minority' (your words, nobody's else's) commits crime every day and all too often - so what about all the other ethnic groups?
Maybe you should have a more [italic]sunny[/italic] view of life and try to stir up racial trouble by pointing the finger of blame for crime at a 'certain ethnic minority'.
Willy, don't embarrass yourself. You obviously don't credit other people with as much intelligence as they deserve. Anyone who regularly visits this site will have seen several comments from you over the past week or so which have been blatantly racist. You can play the hurt puppy dog "I haven't done nothing wrong guv, honest" role if you like but people will see straight through it.
To qoute you: The 'certain ethnic minority' that Jason refers to commit crime every day and all too often.
If that isn't a racist comment then tell me what would be? A 'certain ethnic minority' (your words, nobody's else's) commits crime every day and all too often - so what about all the other ethnic groups?
Maybe you should have a more
sunny view of life and try to stir up racial trouble by pointing the finger of blame for crime at a 'certain ethnic minority'.
Posted by: William, London on 2:11pm Mon 19 May 08
Arry, once again you've proved yourself to be the wally that you really are. What I suggest is that you read the whole story and all the posts. They aren't my words, they were Jasons.
Arry, you really are a wally.
Arry, once again you've proved yourself to be the wally that you really are. What I suggest is that you read the whole story and all the posts. They aren't my words, they were Jasons.
Arry, you really are a wally.
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 2:18pm Mon 19 May 08
William, it was Jason's words at first but it was yours that I quoted.
At 11.42am today you said: The only thing is Sisyphus, is that the bunch of indigenous looneys that you've quoted are few and far between, whereas the 'certain ethnic minority' that Jason refers to commit crime every day and all too often.
The only part of Jason's comment you referred to was the 'certain ethnic minority' part. It was you that said this certain ethnic minority is committing crime "every day and all too often". Squirm all you like, people will see you and your comments for what they are.
William, it was Jason's words at first but it was yours that I quoted.
At 11.42am today you said: The only thing is Sisyphus, is that the bunch of indigenous looneys that you've quoted are few and far between, whereas the 'certain ethnic minority' that Jason refers to commit crime every day and all too often.
The only part of Jason's comment you referred to was the 'certain ethnic minority' part. It was you that said this certain ethnic minority is committing crime "every day and all too often". Squirm all you like, people will see you and your comments for what they are.
Posted by: William, London on 3:04pm Mon 19 May 08
Arry, pendantics again.
Arry, you really are a wally.
Arry, pendantics again.
Arry, you really are a wally.
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 11:10pm Mon 19 May 08
I was reading the newspaper just today, an indigenous man had committed a crime. Disgusting. Can't say anything about it though or the PC police will jump down your throat. I'm thinking of emigrating. Gah.
I was reading the newspaper just today, an indigenous man had committed a crime. Disgusting. Can't say anything about it though or the PC police will jump down your throat. I'm thinking of emigrating. Gah.
Posted by: William, London on 7:14am Tue 20 May 08
Get me a ticket too Sisyphus, I'll come with you. I need a rest from rumour monger Arry.
Get me a ticket too Sisyphus, I'll come with you. I need a rest from rumour monger Arry.
Posted by: William, London on 1:36pm Tue 20 May 08
Arry, I'm still waiting for my 'racist' comment to be deleted by the editors.
Arry, you really are a wally
Arry, I'm still waiting for my 'racist' comment to be deleted by the editors.
Arry, you really are a wally
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