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'No racial or gang element' to killing
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| Detective Chief Inspector Cliff Lyons |
THE police officer leading the investigation into the murder of teenager Jimmy Mizen says it is progressing well.
Jimmy, 16, of Dallinger Road, Lee, was killed in an unprovoked attack in the Three Cooks bakery near his home at 11.50am on Saturday (May 10).
Detective Chief Inspector Cliff Lyons said: "CCTV footage has been gathered from the surrounding area and we have also been conducting house-to-house inquiries.
"A thorough forensic examination is ongoing and significant material has been recovered from the scene.
"We have also spoken to a number of important witnesses, but believe there are still people out there who saw the incident or events which led up to it because the area would have been busy at that time of day.
"It is to these people I am appealing to. You may feel what you saw was of little consequence, but I ask you to call our incident room on 020 8721 4205 and let us make that judgment."
He added: "I would like to stress this incident is not being linked to any ongoing police investigation. Neither does it have any racial or gang element."
6:17pm Monday 12th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: DavidW, Plumstead on 8:01am Tue 13 May 08
Nice to see the Police getting their priorities right. No racial motivation, ooh thats ok then, its only murder now!
Nice to see the Police getting their priorities right. No racial motivation, ooh thats ok then, its only murder now!
Posted by: Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott, The Study on 8:06am Tue 13 May 08
For those of you who were secretly hoping that this terrible murder had a racial element, please see [bold]Your Lord's[/bold] latest blog in the Your Shopper section:
[bold]LEARN FROM HISTORY AND START BLAMING THE POLITICIANS INSTEAD OF EACH OTHER.[/bold]
Posted by [bold]Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold] at 2:04pm on Mon 12 May 08.
[bold]Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold]
For those of you who were secretly hoping that this terrible murder had a racial element, please see
Your Lord's latest blog in the Your Shopper section:
LEARN FROM HISTORY AND START BLAMING THE POLITICIANS INSTEAD OF EACH OTHER.
Posted by
Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott at 2:04pm on Mon 12 May 08.
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott Posted by: DavidW, Plumstead on 8:19am Tue 13 May 08
Lord Pighead, don't want to go on your bloggs, they are undemocratic, bigoted and hypocritical.
Lord Pighead, don't want to go on your bloggs, they are undemocratic, bigoted and hypocritical.
Posted by: Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott, The Armchair on 8:23am Tue 13 May 08
Or perhaps you are frightened to visit the blog, DavidW because
a: you might learn something
b: it hits a raw nerve
[italic]By the way, what does the [bold]'W'[/bold] stand for?[/italic]
[bold]Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold]
Or perhaps you are frightened to visit the blog, DavidW because
a: you might learn something
b: it hits a raw nerve
By the way, what does the 'W' stand for?
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott Posted by: justice for jimmy, here there and every where on 9:13am Tue 13 May 08
the suspect according to a national newspaper is of turkish origin and has alledgedly fled to cyprus, if this had been a white guy attacking a turkish guy, then it would be racially motivated, but because its the other way round.....it cant be racist can it........or can it ?
All i know is the uk has no extradition treaty with cyprus, but if the guy has nothing to hide, well he will happily come back, if not, well his guilty as hell and should be shot like the dog he is, send some para's out to do the job !
the suspect according to a national newspaper is of turkish origin and has alledgedly fled to cyprus, if this had been a white guy attacking a turkish guy, then it would be racially motivated, but because its the other way round.....it cant be racist can it........or can it ?
All i know is the uk has no extradition treaty with cyprus, but if the guy has nothing to hide, well he will happily come back, if not, well his guilty as hell and should be shot like the dog he is, send some para's out to do the job !
Posted by: Me, woolwich on 10:02am Tue 13 May 08
Justice for Jimmy, totally agree with every word you have written. It does seem to be that when every a white person is attacked by another individual(s) that is not white it is not classed as racist!!! Bring back capital punishement for any murderer whatever colour, reglion etc they may be
Justice for Jimmy, totally agree with every word you have written. It does seem to be that when every a white person is attacked by another individual(s) that is not white it is not classed as racist!!! Bring back capital punishement for any murderer whatever colour, reglion etc they may be
Posted by: DavidW, Plumstead on 10:14am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold] wrote:
Or perhaps you are frightened to visit the blog, DavidW because a: you might learn something b: it hits a raw nerve [italic]By the way, what does the [bold]'W'[/bold] stand for?[/italic] [bold]Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold] [/quote] a. There's nothing, someone as blinkered as you, can teach me!
b. Raw nerve? No, I just challenge you in the way you continually produce politically correct, sanctimonious bilge!
As for the 'W', in your case, it means Winner!
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott wrote:
Or perhaps you are frightened to visit the blog, DavidW because a: you might learn something b: it hits a raw nerve By the way, what does the 'W' stand for? Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
a. There's nothing, someone as blinkered as you, can teach me!
b. Raw nerve? No, I just challenge you in the way you continually produce politically correct, sanctimonious bilge!
As for the 'W', in your case, it means Winner!
Posted by: Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott, The Podium on 10:33am Tue 13 May 08
You are calling me a winner?
Why, thank you DavidW.
Now get back to your merchant banking and stop wasting your boss's time and money.
[bold]Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold]
You are calling me a winner?
Why, thank you DavidW.
Now get back to your merchant banking and stop wasting your boss's time and money.
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott Posted by: LisaB, SE London on 10:55am Tue 13 May 08
Amazes me; WHY is it not classes as rascist?? Would sure as hell be if the vitim was black/oriental/turki
sh/ etc etc; I blame PC.
Amazes me; WHY is it not classes as rascist?? Would sure as hell be if the vitim was black/oriental/turki
sh/ etc etc; I blame PC.
Posted by: DavidW, Plumstead on 11:00am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold] wrote:
You are calling me a winner? Why, thank you DavidW. Now get back to your merchant banking and stop wasting your boss's time and money. [bold]Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold] [/quote] I must have got under your skin! Showing your true colours now and probably mental age age too! How easy was that Mr P.C. Intellectual? Ha, Ha, Ha!
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott wrote:
You are calling me a winner? Why, thank you DavidW. Now get back to your merchant banking and stop wasting your boss's time and money. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
I must have got under your skin! Showing your true colours now and probably mental age age too! How easy was that Mr P.C. Intellectual? Ha, Ha, Ha!
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 11:10am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]LisaB[/bold] wrote:
Amazes me; WHY is it not classes as rascist?? Would sure as hell be if the vitim was black/oriental/turki sh/ etc etc; I blame PC.[/quote] I wish people like you would stop trying to stir things up. Are you trying to encourage some of riot? Do people like you get your kicks out of making mischief?
IF it's true that the murder suspect is Turkish or Cypriot then how could it possibly be a racist attack?
And even if you wrongly class a Turkish/Cypriot person as being of a different race to Jimmy Mizen, it does not automatically follow that it was a racist murder. It is possilbe for a person of one race to murder a person of a different race for a non-racial motive. It seems the person lost their temper and lashed out, and race played no part in it. Stop trying to make something out of it that isn't there.
LisaB wrote:
Amazes me; WHY is it not classes as rascist?? Would sure as hell be if the vitim was black/oriental/turki sh/ etc etc; I blame PC.
I wish people like you would stop trying to stir things up. Are you trying to encourage some of riot? Do people like you get your kicks out of making mischief?
IF it's true that the murder suspect is Turkish or Cypriot then how could it possibly be a racist attack?
And even if you wrongly class a Turkish/Cypriot person as being of a different race to Jimmy Mizen, it does not automatically follow that it was a racist murder. It is possilbe for a person of one race to murder a person of a different race for a non-racial motive. It seems the person lost their temper and lashed out, and race played no part in it. Stop trying to make something out of it that isn't there.
Posted by: Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott, The Classroom on 11:19am Tue 13 May 08
DavidW, if it pleases you to think so.
How does it feel to realise that the majority of readers disagree with your views on race and crime?
Reply if you like but that is the last I am going to bother with you.
Good day.
[bold]Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold]
DavidW, if it pleases you to think so.
How does it feel to realise that the majority of readers disagree with your views on race and crime?
Reply if you like but that is the last I am going to bother with you.
Good day.
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott Posted by: CL, Eltham on 12:13pm Tue 13 May 08
Can I just say, I read quite a few of the story's on here and then reading the comments I can bet my bottom dollar that "Erastus Theobald Piggott" has made some kind of nasty immature quote. Can I just tell you something, a young man is dead because of gang violence (racially motivated or not) and all you can do is sit on your PC (no doubt all alone) and pick arguments with people, this site is not for your constant arguments but to talk about justice, can't you just grow up, get a life and stop picking arguments, its disgusting and immoral! As for "Your Lord" how highly do you think of yourself!! Can you please stop leaving comments, go out get a life and realise that people are commenting because they care about a young boy not because they give two hoots what you think!
Can I just say, I read quite a few of the story's on here and then reading the comments I can bet my bottom dollar that "Erastus Theobald Piggott" has made some kind of nasty immature quote. Can I just tell you something, a young man is dead because of gang violence (racially motivated or not) and all you can do is sit on your PC (no doubt all alone) and pick arguments with people, this site is not for your constant arguments but to talk about justice, can't you just grow up, get a life and stop picking arguments, its disgusting and immoral! As for "Your Lord" how highly do you think of yourself!! Can you please stop leaving comments, go out get a life and realise that people are commenting because they care about a young boy not because they give two hoots what you think!
Posted by: Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott, The Library on 12:35pm Tue 13 May 08
CL,
I think you will find that I have not started any arguments but stated valid points which certain readers disagreed with.
If you do not like it, do not ask your mummy to read it to you.
I hope you understand.
[bold]Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott[/bold]
CL,
I think you will find that I have not started any arguments but stated valid points which certain readers disagreed with.
If you do not like it, do not ask your mummy to read it to you.
I hope you understand.
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott Posted by: William, London on 1:14pm Tue 13 May 08
quote from Harry Brown,
'It seems the person lost their temper and lashed out, and race played no part in it'
So just lost his temper did he Harry? Well lets hope he doesn't get really annoyed whilst he's out on the run.
My God what an idiot!!
quote from Harry Brown,
'It seems the person lost their temper and lashed out, and race played no part in it'
So just lost his temper did he Harry? Well lets hope he doesn't get really annoyed whilst he's out on the run.
My God what an idiot!!
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 2:13pm Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]William[/bold] wrote:
quote from Harry Brown, 'It seems the person lost their temper and lashed out, and race played no part in it' So just lost his temper did he Harry? Well lets hope he doesn't get really annoyed whilst he's out on the run. My God what an idiot!![/quote] Actually Billy Boy I think you'll find if you look close enough, deep inside your heart that it is in fact you who is the idiot for completely misreading my earlier comment.
I wasn't trying to excuse the murder or make light of it as being simply a case of someone lashing out. I was making the very valid and relevant point that it was a murder of anger/violence as opposed to a race crime.
I expect you can only look at your computer when teacher's not nearby but do try to keep up.
William wrote:
quote from Harry Brown, 'It seems the person lost their temper and lashed out, and race played no part in it' So just lost his temper did he Harry? Well lets hope he doesn't get really annoyed whilst he's out on the run. My God what an idiot!!
Actually Billy Boy I think you'll find if you look close enough, deep inside your heart that it is in fact you who is the idiot for completely misreading my earlier comment.
I wasn't trying to excuse the murder or make light of it as being simply a case of someone lashing out. I was making the very valid and relevant point that it was a murder of anger/violence as opposed to a race crime.
I expect you can only look at your computer when teacher's not nearby but do try to keep up.
Posted by: Sunny, London on 2:29pm Tue 13 May 08
HB
You state:
[italic]I was making the very valid and relevant point that it was a murder of anger/violence as opposed to a race crime.[/italic]
And how would you know? present were you? My black friend knows the murderer as do many of the boys at the scene and my black friend told me the murderer is of mix race; 21 years old approx. So you can't get all high and mighty with me with regards to colour.
The boy who murdered this young lad is well known for his [bold]very bad temper[/bold] . I saw the pictures taken on a mobile of the state of the bakery just after the incident happended and it was covered in blood and smashed glass. The front doors as well as the interior was in ruins. I don't think this qualifies for a little temper, this boy was completely out of control.
HB
You state:
I was making the very valid and relevant point that it was a murder of anger/violence as opposed to a race crime.
And how would you know? present were you? My black friend knows the murderer as do many of the boys at the scene and my black friend told me the murderer is of mix race; 21 years old approx. So you can't get all high and mighty with me with regards to colour.
The boy who murdered this young lad is well known for his
very bad temper . I saw the pictures taken on a mobile of the state of the bakery just after the incident happended and it was covered in blood and smashed glass. The front doors as well as the interior was in ruins. I don't think this qualifies for a little temper, this boy was completely out of control.
Posted by: William, London on 2:59pm Tue 13 May 08
Thanks Sunny, I too know of this 'young lad'
Harry boy, I didn't think you was making light or excusing the murder, you aren't capable of that as your idiocy shows in your original post. How the hell can anyone misread your 'losing his temper' comment.
I expect you can only look at your computer when Mummy isn't nearby, so I suggest you try to keep up young man.
Thanks Sunny, I too know of this 'young lad'
Harry boy, I didn't think you was making light or excusing the murder, you aren't capable of that as your idiocy shows in your original post. How the hell can anyone misread your 'losing his temper' comment.
I expect you can only look at your computer when Mummy isn't nearby, so I suggest you try to keep up young man.
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 3:00pm Tue 13 May 08
Sunny, I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to William - unless you're the same person?!
But since you've chosen to get involved, I'll respond to you.
Firstly, why do you refer to your 'black friend'? You're not one of those people who are all 'I'm not racist, I've got black friends' are you? Is there something special about having a black friend? Does your black friend like being referred to like this? Why not just call them 'a friend'?
Considering the suspect is supposed to be 19 years old and Turkish, it seems like either you or your friend are mistaken about who it is.
The police have said this murder was not race related, which is exactly the point I was making. I don't dispute this youth was 'out of control', I was saying it was not a race crime. Are you one of those people who are desperate for this be a race killing?
Sunny, I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to William - unless you're the same person?!
But since you've chosen to get involved, I'll respond to you.
Firstly, why do you refer to your 'black friend'? You're not one of those people who are all 'I'm not racist, I've got black friends' are you? Is there something special about having a black friend? Does your black friend like being referred to like this? Why not just call them 'a friend'?
Considering the suspect is supposed to be 19 years old and Turkish, it seems like either you or your friend are mistaken about who it is.
The police have said this murder was not race related, which is exactly the point I was making. I don't dispute this youth was 'out of control', I was saying it was not a race crime. Are you one of those people who are desperate for this be a race killing?
Posted by: susan, bexley on 3:03pm Tue 13 May 08
Does it actually matter what race the person that killed this boy that hadnt even began to live his life yet was!! He has killed someone and deserves to be punished not cause his black, white or turkish but cause he broke the law!!
Does it actually matter what race the person that killed this boy that hadnt even began to live his life yet was!! He has killed someone and deserves to be punished not cause his black, white or turkish but cause he broke the law!!
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 3:06pm Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]susan[/bold] wrote:
Does it actually matter what race the person that killed this boy that hadnt even began to live his life yet was!! He has killed someone and deserves to be punished not cause his black, white or turkish but cause he broke the law!! [/quote] Excellent point Susan. Some people here are so fixated on colour and so desperate for this to be race-related that they are completely ignoring the crime. A young lad has been killed in a god-awful attack that could have happened to anyone and could have involved people of any race, yet that's not enough for some people - they want there to be MORE to it than that.
susan wrote:
Does it actually matter what race the person that killed this boy that hadnt even began to live his life yet was!! He has killed someone and deserves to be punished not cause his black, white or turkish but cause he broke the law!!
Excellent point Susan. Some people here are so fixated on colour and so desperate for this to be race-related that they are completely ignoring the crime. A young lad has been killed in a god-awful attack that could have happened to anyone and could have involved people of any race, yet that's not enough for some people - they want there to be MORE to it than that.
Posted by: William, London on 3:09pm Tue 13 May 08
Stamping your foot and shouting at someone is losing your temper, offering someone out for a fight, smashing the place up and then slicing someones throat and saying "that's for calling the police on me" is hardly losing your temper, is it Harry boy?
ps dont try the race bit for your get out card, I didn't mention the race thing, dont care about it.
Stamping your foot and shouting at someone is losing your temper, offering someone out for a fight, smashing the place up and then slicing someones throat and saying "that's for calling the police on me" is hardly losing your temper, is it Harry boy?
ps dont try the race bit for your get out card, I didn't mention the race thing, dont care about it.
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 3:15pm Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]William[/bold] wrote:
Stamping your foot and shouting at someone is losing your temper, offering someone out for a fight, smashing the place up and then slicing someones throat and saying "that's for calling the police on me" is hardly losing your temper, is it Harry boy? ps dont try the race bit for your get out card, I didn't mention the race thing, dont care about it.[/quote] Willy, you're now just arguing about semantics, which is pretty desperate. The point I was making was this was amurder caused by unspeakable violence rather than race hate. The murderer obviously would have had to have lost his temper to go out of control to smash the shop up, to kill the young lad etc etc. If you're just going to pick holes in how I worded a particular sentence then that's pretty lame.
William wrote:
Stamping your foot and shouting at someone is losing your temper, offering someone out for a fight, smashing the place up and then slicing someones throat and saying "that's for calling the police on me" is hardly losing your temper, is it Harry boy? ps dont try the race bit for your get out card, I didn't mention the race thing, dont care about it.
Willy, you're now just arguing about semantics, which is pretty desperate. The point I was making was this was amurder caused by unspeakable violence rather than race hate. The murderer obviously would have had to have lost his temper to go out of control to smash the shop up, to kill the young lad etc etc. If you're just going to pick holes in how I worded a particular sentence then that's pretty lame.
Posted by: susan, bexely on 3:16pm Tue 13 May 08
noone said you did william but others on the rest of the thred have if you read over it!
noone said you did william but others on the rest of the thred have if you read over it!
Posted by: me, kent on 3:20pm Tue 13 May 08
Noone actually has any evidence this was anything to do with a racial argument like with the Stephen Lawernce case which in fact was nothing to do with race but because he was selling drugs to lil kids!
Noone actually has any evidence this was anything to do with a racial argument like with the Stephen Lawernce case which in fact was nothing to do with race but because he was selling drugs to lil kids!
Posted by: William, London on 3:22pm Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Harry Brown[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]William[/bold] wrote: Stamping your foot and shouting at someone is losing your temper, offering someone out for a fight, smashing the place up and then slicing someones throat and saying "that's for calling the police on me" is hardly losing your temper, is it Harry boy? ps dont try the race bit for your get out card, I didn't mention the race thing, dont care about it.[/quote] Willy, you're now just arguing about semantics, which is pretty desperate. The point I was making was this was amurder caused by unspeakable violence rather than race hate. The murderer obviously would have had to have lost his temper to go out of control to smash the shop up, to kill the young lad etc etc. If you're just going to pick holes in how I worded a particular sentence then that's pretty lame.[/quote] Arry, you made the understatement of the year, it's not a case of how you worded a sentence. Once again, I'll have to educate you.
It was a cold calculated act. ie not a loss of temper.
Now stop digging the hole that you've put yourself in.
Harry Brown wrote:
William wrote: Stamping your foot and shouting at someone is losing your temper, offering someone out for a fight, smashing the place up and then slicing someones throat and saying "that's for calling the police on me" is hardly losing your temper, is it Harry boy? ps dont try the race bit for your get out card, I didn't mention the race thing, dont care about it.
Willy, you're now just arguing about semantics, which is pretty desperate. The point I was making was this was amurder caused by unspeakable violence rather than race hate. The murderer obviously would have had to have lost his temper to go out of control to smash the shop up, to kill the young lad etc etc. If you're just going to pick holes in how I worded a particular sentence then that's pretty lame.
Arry, you made the understatement of the year, it's not a case of how you worded a sentence. Once again, I'll have to educate you.
It was a cold calculated act. ie not a loss of temper.
Now stop digging the hole that you've put yourself in.
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 3:28pm Tue 13 May 08
I haven't dug any hole Willsy, and you're making yourself look a twit by saying I have. Anyone who reads this entire thread can see I've made the sensible points and you've reacted like a Willy wally.
This murder was not a cold calculated act. It wasn't pre-meditated, it wasn't plotted or thought out. It was spontaneous. A sudden act of fatal violence.
Quite frankly I don't give a hoot about your opinion on the murder. The point I was originally making was to highlight how this wasn't a race murder, because some idiots continue to insist it must have been racist and won't accept it wasn't.
I haven't dug any hole Willsy, and you're making yourself look a twit by saying I have. Anyone who reads this entire thread can see I've made the sensible points and you've reacted like a Willy wally.
This murder was not a cold calculated act. It wasn't pre-meditated, it wasn't plotted or thought out. It was spontaneous. A sudden act of fatal violence.
Quite frankly I don't give a hoot about your opinion on the murder. The point I was originally making was to highlight how this wasn't a race murder, because some idiots continue to insist it must have been racist and won't accept it wasn't.
Posted by: William, London on 3:35pm Tue 13 May 08
It wasn't a sudden act, when you full facts become clear you'll see that, it's been an ongoing thing by this local bully who has previous for assault.
What an annoying, I'm right I'm right I'm right person you are, on and on and on. Idiot!!
It wasn't a sudden act, when you full facts become clear you'll see that, it's been an ongoing thing by this local bully who has previous for assault.
What an annoying, I'm right I'm right I'm right person you are, on and on and on. Idiot!!
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 4:02pm Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]William[/bold] wrote:
It wasn't a sudden act, when you full facts become clear you'll see that, it's been an ongoing thing by this local bully who has previous for assault. What an annoying, I'm right I'm right I'm right person you are, on and on and on. Idiot!![/quote] When I'm right, I know I'm right - and if that makes me a bad person then so be it!
What you've said completely contradicts everything else that has so far emrged about this case.
Jimmy Mizen's family have said their son did not know his killer. Also his friends have all said they have never had any dealings with him before and he is not known to them.
But you're saying he's a well known local character who somehow plotted to kill Jimmy Mizen in a 'cold and calculated' way?!
I hope you've passed your 'inside' information on to the police.
William wrote:
It wasn't a sudden act, when you full facts become clear you'll see that, it's been an ongoing thing by this local bully who has previous for assault. What an annoying, I'm right I'm right I'm right person you are, on and on and on. Idiot!!
When I'm right, I know I'm right - and if that makes me a bad person then so be it!
What you've said completely contradicts everything else that has so far emrged about this case.
Jimmy Mizen's family have said their son did not know his killer. Also his friends have all said they have never had any dealings with him before and he is not known to them.
But you're saying he's a well known local character who somehow plotted to kill Jimmy Mizen in a 'cold and calculated' way?!
I hope you've passed your 'inside' information on to the police.
Posted by: William, London on 4:18pm Tue 13 May 08
Try to keep up Arry, the police know who it is, read the reports. You're not right, you're wrong so I wonder what that makes you now.
Blimey, next thing you'll be telling us is that Charles Manson was just naughty!
Try to keep up Arry, the police know who it is, read the reports. You're not right, you're wrong so I wonder what that makes you now.
Blimey, next thing you'll be telling us is that Charles Manson was just naughty!
Posted by: Pink Kitten, London on 4:35pm Tue 13 May 08
Dear William and Harry,
I think you two should agree to disagree and put an end to this for the sake of the family involved who could be reading all your comments.
Dear William and Harry,
I think you two should agree to disagree and put an end to this for the sake of the family involved who could be reading all your comments.
Posted by: Harry Brown, Belvedere on 4:36pm Tue 13 May 08
The police might well know who it is but that doesn't explain why your info about the murder differs so wildly from everything else that has come out about it or how you supposedly know so much about it.
My theory is you've been given a snippet of gossip which has probably been passed around like Chinese whispers and you're being a bit of a glory-hunter by embelishing it further to sound like you've got some sort of inside track on this case.
You seem to be implying this murder was planned in some way - and if you knew anything about it beforehand then that would be a bit Charles Manson wouldn't it - just naughty.
PS I was right about it not being a racist murder, so now that makes me ... still right.
The police might well know who it is but that doesn't explain why your info about the murder differs so wildly from everything else that has come out about it or how you supposedly know so much about it.
My theory is you've been given a snippet of gossip which has probably been passed around like Chinese whispers and you're being a bit of a glory-hunter by embelishing it further to sound like you've got some sort of inside track on this case.
You seem to be implying this murder was planned in some way - and if you knew anything about it beforehand then that would be a bit Charles Manson wouldn't it - just naughty.
PS I was right about it not being a racist murder, so now that makes me ... still right.
Posted by: William, London on 12:24pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Harry Brown[/bold] wrote:
The police might well know who it is but that doesn't explain why your info about the murder differs so wildly from everything else that has come out about it or how you supposedly know so much about it. My theory is you've been given a snippet of gossip which has probably been passed around like Chinese whispers and you're being a bit of a glory-hunter by embelishing it further to sound like you've got some sort of inside track on this case. You seem to be implying this murder was planned in some way - and if you knew anything about it beforehand then that would be a bit Charles Manson wouldn't it - just naughty. PS I was right about it not being a racist murder, so now that makes me ... still right.[/quote] Your theory is completely wrong, as I said before the details will come out, I wasn't given a 'snippet' of information, it's been an ongoing thing by a bully on a member of this family. I do know about it you obviously dont, so your are very wrong saying this scumbag just lost his temper, he deliberately went out of his way to attack these boys.
Now be patient before you spout off again and wait for the details to come out, as I said I know, you obviously dont.
ps stop adding the race bit on the end we all know it wasn't a race thing.
Arry, you're an idiot.
Harry Brown wrote:
The police might well know who it is but that doesn't explain why your info about the murder differs so wildly from everything else that has come out about it or how you supposedly know so much about it. My theory is you've been given a snippet of gossip which has probably been passed around like Chinese whispers and you're being a bit of a glory-hunter by embelishing it further to sound like you've got some sort of inside track on this case. You seem to be implying this murder was planned in some way - and if you knew anything about it beforehand then that would be a bit Charles Manson wouldn't it - just naughty. PS I was right about it not being a racist murder, so now that makes me ... still right.
Your theory is completely wrong, as I said before the details will come out, I wasn't given a 'snippet' of information, it's been an ongoing thing by a bully on a member of this family. I do know about it you obviously dont, so your are very wrong saying this scumbag just lost his temper, he deliberately went out of his way to attack these boys.
Now be patient before you spout off again and wait for the details to come out, as I said I know, you obviously dont.
ps stop adding the race bit on the end we all know it wasn't a race thing.
Arry, you're an idiot.
Posted by: Rachel, bromley on 8:44pm Sun 25 May 08
harry and williams !
stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
harry and williams !
stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: nigel, west mids on 9:21am Sun 1 Jun 08
my sympathies to all those involved but can the newsshopper please not call it the lee bakery murder because i have just sent my sympathies to the family of lee bakery, apologies to all
my sympathies to all those involved but can the newsshopper please not call it the lee bakery murder because i have just sent my sympathies to the family of lee bakery, apologies to all
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