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Children must apply for travel photocards
YOUNGSTERS have until Saturday to apply for an Oyster photocard to travel on London's buses.
Under-14s do not currently need to have a photocard to benefit from free travel in the capital.
But from June 1 all 11 to 15-year-olds will need a valid Oyster photocard to travel free on buses and trams.
Any child who does not have a card must apply by May 10 to make sure they receive it in time.
They can be withdrawn if the cardholder misbehaves on a bus, as they already can be for teenagers aged over 14.
The card, which has been named the Zip card, can be applied for at post offices.
To find out more information, visit the Transport for London website.
12:40pm Tuesday 6th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: mt on 1:39pm Tue 6 May 08
Yeh and give the police a copy of the photo - and the name-might save a bit of time not having to id some of the little oiks through shop a yob. Yes before some of you start the "not all kids are little ba***ards" speech, in my experience the quieter ones are being "trained" by the elders to create havoc and thats why I hate travelling by public transport.
feathers ruffled no doubt.
Yeh and give the police a copy of the photo - and the name-might save a bit of time not having to id some of the little oiks through shop a yob. Yes before some of you start the "not all kids are little ba***ards" speech, in my experience the quieter ones are being "trained" by the elders to create havoc and thats why I hate travelling by public transport.
feathers ruffled no doubt.
Posted by: theword, here and there on 6:18pm Tue 6 May 08
Kids will still get on buses without a card and theirs nothing drivers can do as you are not allowed to chuck a kid of a bus.What you have to do is fill out a lengthy form.so once again these lowlifes will get away with it
Kids will still get on buses without a card and theirs nothing drivers can do as you are not allowed to chuck a kid of a bus.What you have to do is fill out a lengthy form.so once again these lowlifes will get away with it
Posted by: Paul, Bexleyheath on 6:55pm Tue 6 May 08
[quote][bold]theword[/bold] wrote:
Kids will still get on buses without a card and theirs nothing drivers can do as you are not allowed to chuck a kid of a bus.What you have to do is fill out a lengthy form.so once again these lowlifes will get away with it[/quote] You obviously aint travelled on the 96 or 422 - some kids have genuine excuses why the cards dont work -the chip gets bent etc - the other morning in the pouring rain - the jobsworth bus driver turfed off a girl of about 12 cos her card never bleeped - she looked about to burst into tears when a kind lady paid her fare for her.
theword wrote:
Kids will still get on buses without a card and theirs nothing drivers can do as you are not allowed to chuck a kid of a bus.What you have to do is fill out a lengthy form.so once again these lowlifes will get away with it
You obviously aint travelled on the 96 or 422 - some kids have genuine excuses why the cards dont work -the chip gets bent etc - the other morning in the pouring rain - the jobsworth bus driver turfed off a girl of about 12 cos her card never bleeped - she looked about to burst into tears when a kind lady paid her fare for her.
Posted by: Me on 8:04pm Tue 6 May 08
[quote][bold]mt[/bold] wrote:
Yeh and give the police a copy of the photo - and the name-might save a bit of time not having to id some of the little oiks through shop a yob. Yes before some of you start the "not all kids are little ba***ards" speech, in my experience the quieter ones are being "trained" by the elders to create havoc and thats why I hate travelling by public transport. feathers ruffled no doubt.[/quote] feathers ruffled no doubt, you arrogant,overbearing
, pretentious,trivial,
subnormal moron. I'm sure if everyone in your age group was generalised to you then that would ruffle feathers as you put it to. SAD
mt wrote:
Yeh and give the police a copy of the photo - and the name-might save a bit of time not having to id some of the little oiks through shop a yob. Yes before some of you start the "not all kids are little ba***ards" speech, in my experience the quieter ones are being "trained" by the elders to create havoc and thats why I hate travelling by public transport. feathers ruffled no doubt.
feathers ruffled no doubt, you arrogant,overbearing
, pretentious,trivial,
subnormal moron. I'm sure if everyone in your age group was generalised to you then that would ruffle feathers as you put it to. SAD
Posted by: Sharon, Charlton on 11:21pm Tue 6 May 08
At last!!! My youngest has had her photo oyster card since she started secondary school in sept 2007.. Yes I agree some Drivers are jobs worth and need MORE TRAINING etc..(common sense they say is not common)I say the children should just be able to show the card, as you would a 1 day travel card, my children know how to look after theirs otherwise what is the alternative "WALK" learning responsibilty never hurt anyone...another rule I believe should be brought in is NO child under the age of 10 be able to travel on a bus after 7.30pm without a parent/responsible adult. In the summer months children just roam on buses for the hell of it making trouble etc..
At last!!! My youngest has had her photo oyster card since she started secondary school in sept 2007.. Yes I agree some Drivers are jobs worth and need MORE TRAINING etc..(common sense they say is not common)I say the children should just be able to show the card, as you would a 1 day travel card, my children know how to look after theirs otherwise what is the alternative "WALK" learning responsibilty never hurt anyone...another rule I believe should be brought in is NO child under the age of 10 be able to travel on a bus after 7.30pm without a parent/responsible adult. In the summer months children just roam on buses for the hell of it making trouble etc..
Posted by: sharon, Charlton on 11:26pm Tue 6 May 08
PS. I travel the 178 bus every day and I know what I'm talking about... Thomas Tallis, Blackheath Bluecoats, Kidbrooke and John Roan
PS. I travel the 178 bus every day and I know what I'm talking about... Thomas Tallis, Blackheath Bluecoats, Kidbrooke and John Roan
Posted by: who do u think u r, here and there on 6:48am Wed 7 May 08
I do have to laugh at all these do gooders, MY CHILDREN "KNOW" HOW TO LOOK AFTER THEIRS, responsibilty ? THIS IS TENNAGERS YOU ARE TALKIng ABOUT ! YOUR EITHER A LIAR OR YOUR KIDS ARE ABNORMAL FREAKS.
When you was kids of course you never went scrumping or played knock down ginger, or football in the street,or bundle onto the bus when it arrived at your school bus stop, all of which would be classed as unsociable behaviour in todays snobby stuck up its own arse society.
Now I'll sit back and watch as the whiter than white brigade start with their rants about how perfect they was as children and how their crap dont stink like everyone else....thats why we needed a police force back then just as we do today, if you was all so well behaved then we wouldnt need coppers, then or now would we, funny how you never hear anyone on here say, " my kids a little **** and out of control isnt it ! Oh no all newsshopper readers kids are perfect little angels.
But anyone thats had kids ( yes im a father of 4 ty, now watch as they attack my parenting skills without even knowing me or my children) will know that the truth is a completely different matter, ALL kids have temper tantrums as toddlers, its called the terrible twos, Just as all teens have moody natures,this is part of growing up, its completely natural,its the same today as it was ten twenty thirty forty or even fifty years ago and anyone who tries to kid us into thinking their child/children, is any different is a liar, or their kids a freak of nature...so keep up the good work with the bull crap, you never know, maybe one day you will even kid yourselfs into believing its true !
Most of these children will eventually grow up into being mature adults that contribute greatly to our society, the simple fact is, we expect them to behave like adults yet treat them with contempt and as children, yet todays children are forced to grow up faster than they ever have been before, more pressure is placed on these kids of today to do well than ever before, but are they listened to ? are they ever considered when decisions are made to do with their lifes ? no they are totally ignored whilst the people who treat them with so much contempt decide their fate and their futures ! and we wonder why they rebel, as a grown up you wouldnt like to be treated that way, you only have to look at the openong of bail hostels in lewisham and the reaction that has bought to see adults dont like to be treated like children, yet we want our children to be adults have responsibilty, yet still treat them like children.
Time to climb down off your poncy high horse and get to grips with the real world and not that dream fantasy world you lot from the whiter than white brigade live in.
I do have to laugh at all these do gooders, MY CHILDREN "KNOW" HOW TO LOOK AFTER THEIRS, responsibilty ? THIS IS TENNAGERS YOU ARE TALKIng ABOUT ! YOUR EITHER A LIAR OR YOUR KIDS ARE ABNORMAL FREAKS.
When you was kids of course you never went scrumping or played knock down ginger, or football in the street,or bundle onto the bus when it arrived at your school bus stop, all of which would be classed as unsociable behaviour in todays snobby stuck up its own arse society.
Now I'll sit back and watch as the whiter than white brigade start with their rants about how perfect they was as children and how their crap dont stink like everyone else....thats why we needed a police force back then just as we do today, if you was all so well behaved then we wouldnt need coppers, then or now would we, funny how you never hear anyone on here say, " my kids a little **** and out of control isnt it ! Oh no all newsshopper readers kids are perfect little angels.
But anyone thats had kids ( yes im a father of 4 ty, now watch as they attack my parenting skills without even knowing me or my children) will know that the truth is a completely different matter, ALL kids have temper tantrums as toddlers, its called the terrible twos, Just as all teens have moody natures,this is part of growing up, its completely natural,its the same today as it was ten twenty thirty forty or even fifty years ago and anyone who tries to kid us into thinking their child/children, is any different is a liar, or their kids a freak of nature...so keep up the good work with the bull crap, you never know, maybe one day you will even kid yourselfs into believing its true !
Most of these children will eventually grow up into being mature adults that contribute greatly to our society, the simple fact is, we expect them to behave like adults yet treat them with contempt and as children, yet todays children are forced to grow up faster than they ever have been before, more pressure is placed on these kids of today to do well than ever before, but are they listened to ? are they ever considered when decisions are made to do with their lifes ? no they are totally ignored whilst the people who treat them with so much contempt decide their fate and their futures ! and we wonder why they rebel, as a grown up you wouldnt like to be treated that way, you only have to look at the openong of bail hostels in lewisham and the reaction that has bought to see adults dont like to be treated like children, yet we want our children to be adults have responsibilty, yet still treat them like children.
Time to climb down off your poncy high horse and get to grips with the real world and not that dream fantasy world you lot from the whiter than white brigade live in.
Posted by: oh dear on 7:21am Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Me[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]mt[/bold] wrote: Yeh and give the police a copy of the photo - and the name-might save a bit of time not having to id some of the little oiks through shop a yob. Yes before some of you start the "not all kids are little ba***ards" speech, in my experience the quieter ones are being "trained" by the elders to create havoc and thats why I hate travelling by public transport. feathers ruffled no doubt.[/quote] feathers ruffled no doubt, you arrogant,overbearing , pretentious,trivial, subnormal moron. I'm sure if everyone in your age group was generalised to you then that would ruffle feathers as you put it to. SAD[/quote] i suppose your one of the "parents" of these scummy brats. go on- crack open a can of kestrel and sit in your front garden in your trackie bottoms - low life.
Me wrote:
mt wrote: Yeh and give the police a copy of the photo - and the name-might save a bit of time not having to id some of the little oiks through shop a yob. Yes before some of you start the "not all kids are little ba***ards" speech, in my experience the quieter ones are being "trained" by the elders to create havoc and thats why I hate travelling by public transport. feathers ruffled no doubt.
feathers ruffled no doubt, you arrogant,overbearing , pretentious,trivial, subnormal moron. I'm sure if everyone in your age group was generalised to you then that would ruffle feathers as you put it to. SAD
i suppose your one of the "parents" of these scummy brats. go on- crack open a can of kestrel and sit in your front garden in your trackie bottoms - low life.
Posted by: i, Here on 3:10pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]who do u think u r[/bold] wrote:
I do have to laugh at all these do gooders, MY CHILDREN "KNOW" HOW TO LOOK AFTER THEIRS, responsibilty ? THIS IS TENNAGERS YOU ARE TALKIng ABOUT ! YOUR EITHER A LIAR OR YOUR KIDS ARE ABNORMAL FREAKS. When you was kids of course you never went scrumping or played knock down ginger, or football in the street,or bundle onto the bus when it arrived at your school bus stop, all of which would be classed as unsociable behaviour in todays snobby stuck up its own arse society. Now I'll sit back and watch as the whiter than white brigade start with their rants about how perfect they was as children and how their crap dont stink like everyone else....thats why we needed a police force back then just as we do today, if you was all so well behaved then we wouldnt need coppers, then or now would we, funny how you never hear anyone on here say, " my kids a little **** and out of control isnt it ! Oh no all newsshopper readers kids are perfect little angels. But anyone thats had kids ( yes im a father of 4 ty, now watch as they attack my parenting skills without even knowing me or my children) will know that the truth is a completely different matter, ALL kids have temper tantrums as toddlers, its called the terrible twos, Just as all teens have moody natures,this is part of growing up, its completely natural,its the same today as it was ten twenty thirty forty or even fifty years ago and anyone who tries to kid us into thinking their child/children, is any different is a liar, or their kids a freak of nature...so keep up the good work with the bull crap, you never know, maybe one day you will even kid yourselfs into believing its true ! Most of these children will eventually grow up into being mature adults that contribute greatly to our society, the simple fact is, we expect them to behave like adults yet treat them with contempt and as children, yet todays children are forced to grow up faster than they ever have been before, more pressure is placed on these kids of today to do well than ever before, but are they listened to ? are they ever considered when decisions are made to do with their lifes ? no they are totally ignored whilst the people who treat them with so much contempt decide their fate and their futures ! and we wonder why they rebel, as a grown up you wouldnt like to be treated that way, you only have to look at the openong of bail hostels in lewisham and the reaction that has bought to see adults dont like to be treated like children, yet we want our children to be adults have responsibilty, yet still treat them like children. Time to climb down off your poncy high horse and get to grips with the real world and not that dream fantasy world you lot from the whiter than white brigade live in.[/quote] Oh dear.You have children. Enough said!!
who do u think u r wrote:
I do have to laugh at all these do gooders, MY CHILDREN "KNOW" HOW TO LOOK AFTER THEIRS, responsibilty ? THIS IS TENNAGERS YOU ARE TALKIng ABOUT ! YOUR EITHER A LIAR OR YOUR KIDS ARE ABNORMAL FREAKS. When you was kids of course you never went scrumping or played knock down ginger, or football in the street,or bundle onto the bus when it arrived at your school bus stop, all of which would be classed as unsociable behaviour in todays snobby stuck up its own arse society. Now I'll sit back and watch as the whiter than white brigade start with their rants about how perfect they was as children and how their crap dont stink like everyone else....thats why we needed a police force back then just as we do today, if you was all so well behaved then we wouldnt need coppers, then or now would we, funny how you never hear anyone on here say, " my kids a little **** and out of control isnt it ! Oh no all newsshopper readers kids are perfect little angels. But anyone thats had kids ( yes im a father of 4 ty, now watch as they attack my parenting skills without even knowing me or my children) will know that the truth is a completely different matter, ALL kids have temper tantrums as toddlers, its called the terrible twos, Just as all teens have moody natures,this is part of growing up, its completely natural,its the same today as it was ten twenty thirty forty or even fifty years ago and anyone who tries to kid us into thinking their child/children, is any different is a liar, or their kids a freak of nature...so keep up the good work with the bull crap, you never know, maybe one day you will even kid yourselfs into believing its true ! Most of these children will eventually grow up into being mature adults that contribute greatly to our society, the simple fact is, we expect them to behave like adults yet treat them with contempt and as children, yet todays children are forced to grow up faster than they ever have been before, more pressure is placed on these kids of today to do well than ever before, but are they listened to ? are they ever considered when decisions are made to do with their lifes ? no they are totally ignored whilst the people who treat them with so much contempt decide their fate and their futures ! and we wonder why they rebel, as a grown up you wouldnt like to be treated that way, you only have to look at the openong of bail hostels in lewisham and the reaction that has bought to see adults dont like to be treated like children, yet we want our children to be adults have responsibilty, yet still treat them like children. Time to climb down off your poncy high horse and get to grips with the real world and not that dream fantasy world you lot from the whiter than white brigade live in.
Oh dear.You have children. Enough said!!
Posted by: sharon, Charlton on 3:45pm Wed 7 May 08
I am a 41 year old Mother who has brought up a her children to respect their elders, surroundings, other peoples property etc... I can honestly say my two well brought up children have never given me a days trouble!!! Thats the problem with todays society, children grow up too fast.. My daughter started secondary school last sept in the first two months she came home with so many questions eg.. "whats a Blow Job" do you think [bold]"who do you think u r"[/bold] needs to know what that is at 11?.. [bold]My kids are not freaks, the are the exception and NO WHO THEY ARE!!! [/bold]
I am a 41 year old Mother who has brought up a her children to respect their elders, surroundings, other peoples property etc... I can honestly say my two well brought up children have never given me a days trouble!!! Thats the problem with todays society, children grow up too fast.. My daughter started secondary school last sept in the first two months she came home with so many questions eg.. "whats a Blow Job" do you think
"who do you think u r" needs to know what that is at 11?..
My kids are not freaks, the are the exception and NO WHO THEY ARE!!! Posted by: lou on 3:48pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]i[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]who do u think u r[/bold] wrote: I do have to laugh at all these do gooders, MY CHILDREN "KNOW" HOW TO LOOK AFTER THEIRS, responsibilty ? THIS IS TENNAGERS YOU ARE TALKIng ABOUT ! YOUR EITHER A LIAR OR YOUR KIDS ARE ABNORMAL FREAKS. When you was kids of course you never went scrumping or played knock down ginger, or football in the street,or bundle onto the bus when it arrived at your school bus stop, all of which would be classed as unsociable behaviour in todays snobby stuck up its own arse society. Now I'll sit back and watch as the whiter than white brigade start with their rants about how perfect they was as children and how their crap dont stink like everyone else....thats why we needed a police force back then just as we do today, if you was all so well behaved then we wouldnt need coppers, then or now would we, funny how you never hear anyone on here say, " my kids a little **** and out of control isnt it ! Oh no all newsshopper readers kids are perfect little angels. But anyone thats had kids ( yes im a father of 4 ty, now watch as they attack my parenting skills without even knowing me or my children) will know that the truth is a completely different matter, ALL kids have temper tantrums as toddlers, its called the terrible twos, Just as all teens have moody natures,this is part of growing up, its completely natural,its the same today as it was ten twenty thirty forty or even fifty years ago and anyone who tries to kid us into thinking their child/children, is any different is a liar, or their kids a freak of nature...so keep up the good work with the bull crap, you never know, maybe one day you will even kid yourselfs into believing its true ! Most of these children will eventually grow up into being mature adults that contribute greatly to our society, the simple fact is, we expect them to behave like adults yet treat them with contempt and as children, yet todays children are forced to grow up faster than they ever have been before, more pressure is placed on these kids of today to do well than ever before, but are they listened to ? are they ever considered when decisions are made to do with their lifes ? no they are totally ignored whilst the people who treat them with so much contempt decide their fate and their futures ! and we wonder why they rebel, as a grown up you wouldnt like to be treated that way, you only have to look at the openong of bail hostels in lewisham and the reaction that has bought to see adults dont like to be treated like children, yet we want our children to be adults have responsibilty, yet still treat them like children. Time to climb down off your poncy high horse and get to grips with the real world and not that dream fantasy world you lot from the whiter than white brigade live in.[/quote] Oh dear.You have children. Enough said!! [/quote] Not quite sure what this post has to do with children needing Oyster cards to travel on buses?
I think the previous poster is correct children do need to learn to be responsible for their belongings, however, anyone adult or child can have an accident, lose a card bend it etc etc. lets be sensible here - or maybe this is evidence as to why some of these teenagers behave as they do?
i wrote:
who do u think u r wrote: I do have to laugh at all these do gooders, MY CHILDREN "KNOW" HOW TO LOOK AFTER THEIRS, responsibilty ? THIS IS TENNAGERS YOU ARE TALKIng ABOUT ! YOUR EITHER A LIAR OR YOUR KIDS ARE ABNORMAL FREAKS. When you was kids of course you never went scrumping or played knock down ginger, or football in the street,or bundle onto the bus when it arrived at your school bus stop, all of which would be classed as unsociable behaviour in todays snobby stuck up its own arse society. Now I'll sit back and watch as the whiter than white brigade start with their rants about how perfect they was as children and how their crap dont stink like everyone else....thats why we needed a police force back then just as we do today, if you was all so well behaved then we wouldnt need coppers, then or now would we, funny how you never hear anyone on here say, " my kids a little **** and out of control isnt it ! Oh no all newsshopper readers kids are perfect little angels. But anyone thats had kids ( yes im a father of 4 ty, now watch as they attack my parenting skills without even knowing me or my children) will know that the truth is a completely different matter, ALL kids have temper tantrums as toddlers, its called the terrible twos, Just as all teens have moody natures,this is part of growing up, its completely natural,its the same today as it was ten twenty thirty forty or even fifty years ago and anyone who tries to kid us into thinking their child/children, is any different is a liar, or their kids a freak of nature...so keep up the good work with the bull crap, you never know, maybe one day you will even kid yourselfs into believing its true ! Most of these children will eventually grow up into being mature adults that contribute greatly to our society, the simple fact is, we expect them to behave like adults yet treat them with contempt and as children, yet todays children are forced to grow up faster than they ever have been before, more pressure is placed on these kids of today to do well than ever before, but are they listened to ? are they ever considered when decisions are made to do with their lifes ? no they are totally ignored whilst the people who treat them with so much contempt decide their fate and their futures ! and we wonder why they rebel, as a grown up you wouldnt like to be treated that way, you only have to look at the openong of bail hostels in lewisham and the reaction that has bought to see adults dont like to be treated like children, yet we want our children to be adults have responsibilty, yet still treat them like children. Time to climb down off your poncy high horse and get to grips with the real world and not that dream fantasy world you lot from the whiter than white brigade live in.
Oh dear.You have children. Enough said!!
Not quite sure what this post has to do with children needing Oyster cards to travel on buses?
I think the previous poster is correct children do need to learn to be responsible for their belongings, however, anyone adult or child can have an accident, lose a card bend it etc etc. lets be sensible here - or maybe this is evidence as to why some of these teenagers behave as they do?
Posted by: Sharon, Charlton on 8:24pm Wed 7 May 08
I agree lou, "who do you think u r" was responding to me bragging about my kids!!(17 & 11) The total cost for these oyster cards is £9.50 incl photo so my children know to take a little more care and look after them.I work hard as do many people do for their money!!! So to that person who said my kids are freaks...my 17 year old who goes to college just got a job 9hrs a week to earn some money towards driving lesson's car, tax & insurance!! Hows that for responsibility!!not expecting hand outs from me!! SO PROUD!!!
I agree lou, "who do you think u r" was responding to me bragging about my kids!!(17 & 11) The total cost for these oyster cards is £9.50 incl photo so my children know to take a little more care and look after them.I work hard as do many people do for their money!!! So to that person who said my kids are freaks...my 17 year old who goes to college just got a job 9hrs a week to earn some money towards driving lesson's car, tax & insurance!! Hows that for responsibility!!not expecting hand outs from me!! SO PROUD!!!
Posted by: Reader, bexley on 8:58pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]who do u think u r[/bold] wrote:
I do have to laugh at all these do gooders, MY CHILDREN "KNOW" HOW TO LOOK AFTER THEIRS, responsibilty ? THIS IS TENNAGERS YOU ARE TALKIng ABOUT ! YOUR EITHER A LIAR OR YOUR KIDS ARE ABNORMAL FREAKS. When you was kids of course you never went scrumping or played knock down ginger, or football in the street,or bundle onto the bus when it arrived at your school bus stop, all of which would be classed as unsociable behaviour in todays snobby stuck up its own arse society. Now I'll sit back and watch as the whiter than white brigade start with their rants about how perfect they was as children and how their crap dont stink like everyone else....thats why we needed a police force back then just as we do today, if you was all so well behaved then we wouldnt need coppers, then or now would we, funny how you never hear anyone on here say, " my kids a little **** and out of control isnt it ! Oh no all newsshopper readers kids are perfect little angels. But anyone thats had kids ( yes im a father of 4 ty, now watch as they attack my parenting skills without even knowing me or my children) will know that the truth is a completely different matter, ALL kids have temper tantrums as toddlers, its called the terrible twos, Just as all teens have moody natures,this is part of growing up, its completely natural,its the same today as it was ten twenty thirty forty or even fifty years ago and anyone who tries to kid us into thinking their child/children, is any different is a liar, or their kids a freak of nature...so keep up the good work with the bull crap, you never know, maybe one day you will even kid yourselfs into believing its true ! Most of these children will eventually grow up into being mature adults that contribute greatly to our society, the simple fact is, we expect them to behave like adults yet treat them with contempt and as children, yet todays children are forced to grow up faster than they ever have been before, more pressure is placed on these kids of today to do well than ever before, but are they listened to ? are they ever considered when decisions are made to do with their lifes ? no they are totally ignored whilst the people who treat them with so much contempt decide their fate and their futures ! and we wonder why they rebel, as a grown up you wouldnt like to be treated that way, you only have to look at the openong of bail hostels in lewisham and the reaction that has bought to see adults dont like to be treated like children, yet we want our children to be adults have responsibilty, yet still treat them like children. Time to climb down off your poncy high horse and get to grips with the real world and not that dream fantasy world you lot from the whiter than white brigade live in.[/quote] Well seid i agree with everything you have wrote and iam sorry to say my angel my eldest is a little s..t also so your not on your own, but as you say if more parents would take notice and come out of the dream world they are in they would help their kids more.
who do u think u r wrote:
I do have to laugh at all these do gooders, MY CHILDREN "KNOW" HOW TO LOOK AFTER THEIRS, responsibilty ? THIS IS TENNAGERS YOU ARE TALKIng ABOUT ! YOUR EITHER A LIAR OR YOUR KIDS ARE ABNORMAL FREAKS. When you was kids of course you never went scrumping or played knock down ginger, or football in the street,or bundle onto the bus when it arrived at your school bus stop, all of which would be classed as unsociable behaviour in todays snobby stuck up its own arse society. Now I'll sit back and watch as the whiter than white brigade start with their rants about how perfect they was as children and how their crap dont stink like everyone else....thats why we needed a police force back then just as we do today, if you was all so well behaved then we wouldnt need coppers, then or now would we, funny how you never hear anyone on here say, " my kids a little **** and out of control isnt it ! Oh no all newsshopper readers kids are perfect little angels. But anyone thats had kids ( yes im a father of 4 ty, now watch as they attack my parenting skills without even knowing me or my children) will know that the truth is a completely different matter, ALL kids have temper tantrums as toddlers, its called the terrible twos, Just as all teens have moody natures,this is part of growing up, its completely natural,its the same today as it was ten twenty thirty forty or even fifty years ago and anyone who tries to kid us into thinking their child/children, is any different is a liar, or their kids a freak of nature...so keep up the good work with the bull crap, you never know, maybe one day you will even kid yourselfs into believing its true ! Most of these children will eventually grow up into being mature adults that contribute greatly to our society, the simple fact is, we expect them to behave like adults yet treat them with contempt and as children, yet todays children are forced to grow up faster than they ever have been before, more pressure is placed on these kids of today to do well than ever before, but are they listened to ? are they ever considered when decisions are made to do with their lifes ? no they are totally ignored whilst the people who treat them with so much contempt decide their fate and their futures ! and we wonder why they rebel, as a grown up you wouldnt like to be treated that way, you only have to look at the openong of bail hostels in lewisham and the reaction that has bought to see adults dont like to be treated like children, yet we want our children to be adults have responsibilty, yet still treat them like children. Time to climb down off your poncy high horse and get to grips with the real world and not that dream fantasy world you lot from the whiter than white brigade live in.
Well seid i agree with everything you have wrote and iam sorry to say my angel my eldest is a little s..t also so your not on your own, but as you say if more parents would take notice and come out of the dream world they are in they would help their kids more.
Posted by: OBVIOUS, EYES on 10:17pm Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]who do u think u r[/bold] wrote:
I do have to laugh at all these do gooders, MY CHILDREN \"KNOW\" HOW TO LOOK AFTER THEIRS, responsibilty ? THIS IS TENNAGERS YOU ARE TALKIng ABOUT ! YOUR EITHER A LIAR OR YOUR KIDS ARE ABNORMAL FREAKS. When you was kids of course you never went scrumping or played knock down ginger, or football in the street,or bundle onto the bus when it arrived at your school bus stop, all of which would be classed as unsociable behaviour in todays snobby stuck up its own arse society. Now I\'ll sit back and watch as the whiter than white brigade start with their rants about how perfect they was as children and how their crap dont stink like everyone else....thats why we needed a police force back then just as we do today, if you was all so well behaved then we wouldnt need coppers, then or now would we, funny how you never hear anyone on here say, \" my kids a little **** and out of control isnt it ! Oh no all newsshopper readers kids are perfect little angels. But anyone thats had kids ( yes im a father of 4 ty, now watch as they attack my parenting skills without even knowing me or my children) will know that the truth is a completely different matter, ALL kids have temper tantrums as toddlers, its called the terrible twos, Just as all teens have moody natures,this is part of growing up, its completely natural,its the same today as it was ten twenty thirty forty or even fifty years ago and anyone who tries to kid us into thinking their child/children, is any different is a liar, or their kids a freak of nature...so keep up the good work with the bull crap, you never know, maybe one day you will even kid yourselfs into believing its true ! Most of these children will eventually grow up into being mature adults that contribute greatly to our society, the simple fact is, we expect them to behave like adults yet treat them with contempt and as children, yet todays children are forced to grow up faster than they ever have been before, more pressure is placed on these kids of today to do well than ever before, but are they listened to ? are they ever considered when decisions are made to do with their lifes ? no they are totally ignored whilst the people who treat them with so much contempt decide their fate and their futures ! and we wonder why they rebel, as a grown up you wouldnt like to be treated that way, you only have to look at the openong of bail hostels in lewisham and the reaction that has bought to see adults dont like to be treated like children, yet we want our children to be adults have responsibilty, yet still treat them like children. Time to climb down off your poncy high horse and get to grips with the real world and not that dream fantasy world you lot from the whiter than white brigade live in.[/quote] WOW!!! you have tooooo much time on your hands!!!!
who do u think u r wrote:
I do have to laugh at all these do gooders, MY CHILDREN \"KNOW\" HOW TO LOOK AFTER THEIRS, responsibilty ? THIS IS TENNAGERS YOU ARE TALKIng ABOUT ! YOUR EITHER A LIAR OR YOUR KIDS ARE ABNORMAL FREAKS. When you was kids of course you never went scrumping or played knock down ginger, or football in the street,or bundle onto the bus when it arrived at your school bus stop, all of which would be classed as unsociable behaviour in todays snobby stuck up its own arse society. Now I\'ll sit back and watch as the whiter than white brigade start with their rants about how perfect they was as children and how their crap dont stink like everyone else....thats why we needed a police force back then just as we do today, if you was all so well behaved then we wouldnt need coppers, then or now would we, funny how you never hear anyone on here say, \" my kids a little **** and out of control isnt it ! Oh no all newsshopper readers kids are perfect little angels. But anyone thats had kids ( yes im a father of 4 ty, now watch as they attack my parenting skills without even knowing me or my children) will know that the truth is a completely different matter, ALL kids have temper tantrums as toddlers, its called the terrible twos, Just as all teens have moody natures,this is part of growing up, its completely natural,its the same today as it was ten twenty thirty forty or even fifty years ago and anyone who tries to kid us into thinking their child/children, is any different is a liar, or their kids a freak of nature...so keep up the good work with the bull crap, you never know, maybe one day you will even kid yourselfs into believing its true ! Most of these children will eventually grow up into being mature adults that contribute greatly to our society, the simple fact is, we expect them to behave like adults yet treat them with contempt and as children, yet todays children are forced to grow up faster than they ever have been before, more pressure is placed on these kids of today to do well than ever before, but are they listened to ? are they ever considered when decisions are made to do with their lifes ? no they are totally ignored whilst the people who treat them with so much contempt decide their fate and their futures ! and we wonder why they rebel, as a grown up you wouldnt like to be treated that way, you only have to look at the openong of bail hostels in lewisham and the reaction that has bought to see adults dont like to be treated like children, yet we want our children to be adults have responsibilty, yet still treat them like children. Time to climb down off your poncy high horse and get to grips with the real world and not that dream fantasy world you lot from the whiter than white brigade live in.
WOW!!! you have tooooo much time on your hands!!!!
Posted by: anita, dartford on 4:06pm Fri 9 May 08
Im praying that the little ***** that bus hop from town to town causing trouble and intimation forget to get their oyster card doh!
Im praying that the little ***** that bus hop from town to town causing trouble and intimation forget to get their oyster card doh!
Posted by: Observer, Everywhere on 5:36pm Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]anita[/bold] wrote:
Im praying that the little ***** that bus hop from town to town causing trouble and intimation forget to get their oyster card doh![/quote] I never had anyone cause intimation on a bus, BRING IT ON !!!!
anita wrote:
Im praying that the little ***** that bus hop from town to town causing trouble and intimation forget to get their oyster card doh!
I never had anyone cause intimation on a bus, BRING IT ON !!!!
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