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Drunk woman in charge of toddlers
A DRUNK woman who was arrested next to a busy road was in charge of two toddlers at the time.
Sarah Post, of Edgewood Drive, Green Street Green, was arrested at 2.30pm on March 2 after police were called to the Royal Oak pub in Farnborough Way, Farnborough.
It was alleged 38-year-old Post was being abusive and refused to leave the premises.
She was arrested outside the pub and taken to Bromley police station.
Two 15-month-old toddlers with her were released into the care of their grandparents and social services were notified.
Post pleaded guilty to being drunk in charge of children under the age of seven when she appeared before Bromley magistrates.
She was given a 12-month conditional discharge and ordered to pay £55 costs.
11:56am Wednesday 26th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Jade, N/Fleet on 12:13pm Wed 26 Mar 08
...And we wonder why the kids turn out the way they do?
...And we wonder why the kids turn out the way they do?
Posted by: theword, here and there on 12:24pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Enough said!
Posted by: ClockWatcher, Welling on 12:26pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Disgusting example to set - thank goodness no harm came to the children.
What worries me about this article is [italic]Post pleaded guilty to being drunk in charge of children under the age of seven[/italic], so would it have been ok for her to have been drunk in charge of children if they were [bold]OVER[/bold] the age of seven????
Disgusting example to set - thank goodness no harm came to the children.
What worries me about this article is
Post pleaded guilty to being drunk in charge of children under the age of seven, so would it have been ok for her to have been drunk in charge of children if they were
OVER the age of seven????
Posted by: k.frost on 1:28pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Another product of continuous Conservative and Labour governments.
Another product of continuous Conservative and Labour governments.
Posted by: who do u lot think u r, at my pc. on 1:46pm Wed 26 Mar 08
methinks some people think their poop dont stink, i bet before this article non of you even new it was illegal to be drunk in charge of a minor. I bet there are very few families in the country who havent had a drink whilst in charge of their children. Ok her drunken behaviour was out of order, but the story doesnt tell the whole picture, and as usual the newsshoppers holier than thou whiter than white readers jump on the poor women with out being aware of all the facts. As the saying goes, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone....so that counts all the above out for a start !
methinks some people think their poop dont stink, i bet before this article non of you even new it was illegal to be drunk in charge of a minor. I bet there are very few families in the country who havent had a drink whilst in charge of their children. Ok her drunken behaviour was out of order, but the story doesnt tell the whole picture, and as usual the newsshoppers holier than thou whiter than white readers jump on the poor women with out being aware of all the facts. As the saying goes, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone....so that counts all the above out for a start !
Posted by: ClockWatcher, Welling on 1:54pm Wed 26 Mar 08
I think it is just common sense not to be drunk in charge of children.
What would account for her being wasted at 3.30pm? Why take her kids into the pub for the day - oh yes sounds like the sort of thing I do all the time! (not).
There is a difference between having a drink and getting drunk - anyone that gets drunk when they are responsible for minors should be disgusted with themselves - and I guess from what you have posted 'who do u lot think u r' that would include your good self.
I think it is just common sense not to be drunk in charge of children.
What would account for her being wasted at 3.30pm? Why take her kids into the pub for the day - oh yes sounds like the sort of thing I do all the time! (not).
There is a difference between having a drink and getting drunk - anyone that gets drunk when they are responsible for minors should be disgusted with themselves - and I guess from what you have posted 'who do u lot think u r' that would include your good self.
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 2:04pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]k.frost[/bold] wrote:
Another product of continuous Conservative and Labour governments.[/quote] Err...care to elaborate? Or were you just bored and fancied writing something totally irrelevant?
k.frost wrote:
Another product of continuous Conservative and Labour governments.
Err...care to elaborate? Or were you just bored and fancied writing something totally irrelevant?
Posted by: William, London on 2:24pm Wed 26 Mar 08
I'm with 'who do you think' on this one.
The fact that they released the children into the Grandparents care shows something, otherwise they would've been taken into care the the social services.
I'm with 'who do you think' on this one.
The fact that they released the children into the Grandparents care shows something, otherwise they would've been taken into care the the social services.
Posted by: Me on 2:39pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]who do u lot think u r[/bold] wrote:
methinks some people think their poop dont stink, i bet before this article non of you even new it was illegal to be drunk in charge of a minor. I bet there are very few families in the country who havent had a drink whilst in charge of their children. Ok her drunken behaviour was out of order, but the story doesnt tell the whole picture, and as usual the newsshoppers holier than thou whiter than white readers jump on the poor women with out being aware of all the facts. As the saying goes, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone....so that counts all the above out for a start ![/quote] Actually I DID KNOW IT WAS ILLEGAL, However, that is neither here nor there, the fact is i would NEVER be drunk while i had my children with me. It would NEVER enter my head to take my children to a pub either, its not the correct place for children.
So you continue sticking up for your friend and making excuses. I am only sorry that she didnt get a bigger punishment
who do u lot think u r wrote:
methinks some people think their poop dont stink, i bet before this article non of you even new it was illegal to be drunk in charge of a minor. I bet there are very few families in the country who havent had a drink whilst in charge of their children. Ok her drunken behaviour was out of order, but the story doesnt tell the whole picture, and as usual the newsshoppers holier than thou whiter than white readers jump on the poor women with out being aware of all the facts. As the saying goes, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone....so that counts all the above out for a start !
Actually I DID KNOW IT WAS ILLEGAL, However, that is neither here nor there, the fact is i would NEVER be drunk while i had my children with me. It would NEVER enter my head to take my children to a pub either, its not the correct place for children.
So you continue sticking up for your friend and making excuses. I am only sorry that she didnt get a bigger punishment
Posted by: DavidCH, West London on 2:47pm Wed 26 Mar 08
My Mother was best sedated with alcohol she was extremely violent otherwise. Colt45 or Breakers usually did the trick. I suggest the social services check homes at night and take their breathalysers with them because they are sure to get plenty of business. I’m not suggesting that she was OK because the details are scant indeed, but a 12-month conditional discharge sounds like a waste of money. What are we becoming, a nation of sanctimonious ninnies?
My Mother was best sedated with alcohol she was extremely violent otherwise. Colt45 or Breakers usually did the trick. I suggest the social services check homes at night and take their breathalysers with them because they are sure to get plenty of business. I’m not suggesting that she was OK because the details are scant indeed, but a 12-month conditional discharge sounds like a waste of money. What are we becoming, a nation of sanctimonious ninnies?
Posted by: Sunny, London on 2:52pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]DavidCH[/bold] wrote:
My Mother was best sedated with alcohol she was extremely violent otherwise. Colt45 or Breakers usually did the trick. I suggest the social services check homes at night and take their breathalysers with them because they are sure to get plenty of business. I’m not suggesting that she was OK because the details are scant indeed, but a 12-month conditional discharge sounds like a waste of money. What are we becoming, a nation of sanctimonious ninnies? [/quote] Why wasn't she sedated on medication? I have never know anyone to become sedated on alcohol - that would just encourage one to become irresponsible and possibly lead to becoming an alcoholic.
DavidCH wrote:
My Mother was best sedated with alcohol she was extremely violent otherwise. Colt45 or Breakers usually did the trick. I suggest the social services check homes at night and take their breathalysers with them because they are sure to get plenty of business. I’m not suggesting that she was OK because the details are scant indeed, but a 12-month conditional discharge sounds like a waste of money. What are we becoming, a nation of sanctimonious ninnies?
Why wasn't she sedated on medication? I have never know anyone to become sedated on alcohol - that would just encourage one to become irresponsible and possibly lead to becoming an alcoholic.
Posted by: me, london on 3:06pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]who do u lot think u r[/bold] wrote:
methinks some people think their poop dont stink, i bet before this article non of you even new it was illegal to be drunk in charge of a minor. I bet there are very few families in the country who havent had a drink whilst in charge of their children. Ok her drunken behaviour was out of order, but the story doesnt tell the whole picture, and as usual the newsshoppers holier than thou whiter than white readers jump on the poor women with out being aware of all the facts. As the saying goes, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone....so that counts all the above out for a start ![/quote] Theres a big difference between having a drink in the privacy of your own home with kids around than being out in the street near busy roads and drunk..
who do u lot think u r wrote:
methinks some people think their poop dont stink, i bet before this article non of you even new it was illegal to be drunk in charge of a minor. I bet there are very few families in the country who havent had a drink whilst in charge of their children. Ok her drunken behaviour was out of order, but the story doesnt tell the whole picture, and as usual the newsshoppers holier than thou whiter than white readers jump on the poor women with out being aware of all the facts. As the saying goes, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone....so that counts all the above out for a start !
Theres a big difference between having a drink in the privacy of your own home with kids around than being out in the street near busy roads and drunk..
Posted by: Duncan, Petts Wood on 4:04pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Nothing new; my Great Grandfather was arrested in knockholt in 1906 for being in charge of two minors under the age of eight, one of whom was my Granddad. Granddad ended up in the Bromley workhouse being fostered out in 1908. that was a century ago.
Nothing new; my Great Grandfather was arrested in knockholt in 1906 for being in charge of two minors under the age of eight, one of whom was my Granddad. Granddad ended up in the Bromley workhouse being fostered out in 1908. that was a century ago.
Posted by: Steve O, The Office on 4:32pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]me[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]who do u lot think u r[/bold] wrote:
methinks some people think their poop dont stink, i bet before this article non of you even new it was illegal to be drunk in charge of a minor. I bet there are very few families in the country who havent had a drink whilst in charge of their children. Ok her drunken behaviour was out of order, but the story doesnt tell the whole picture, and as usual the newsshoppers holier than thou whiter than white readers jump on the poor women with out being aware of all the facts. As the saying goes, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone....so that counts all the above out for a start ![/quote] Theres a big difference between having a drink in the privacy of your own home with kids around than being out in the street near busy roads and drunk.. [/quote] Yeah, nice one "me, London" you retard, get p1ssed up at home and let the little toerags run amok with matches, carving knives and machetes. Poor little sods.
me wrote:
who do u lot think u r wrote:
methinks some people think their poop dont stink, i bet before this article non of you even new it was illegal to be drunk in charge of a minor. I bet there are very few families in the country who havent had a drink whilst in charge of their children. Ok her drunken behaviour was out of order, but the story doesnt tell the whole picture, and as usual the newsshoppers holier than thou whiter than white readers jump on the poor women with out being aware of all the facts. As the saying goes, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone....so that counts all the above out for a start !
Theres a big difference between having a drink in the privacy of your own home with kids around than being out in the street near busy roads and drunk..
Yeah, nice one "me, London" you retard, get p1ssed up at home and let the little toerags run amok with matches, carving knives and machetes. Poor little sods.
Posted by: me, london on 5:02pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Steve O[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]me[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]who do u lot think u r[/bold] wrote: methinks some people think their poop dont stink, i bet before this article non of you even new it was illegal to be drunk in charge of a minor. I bet there are very few families in the country who havent had a drink whilst in charge of their children. Ok her drunken behaviour was out of order, but the story doesnt tell the whole picture, and as usual the newsshoppers holier than thou whiter than white readers jump on the poor women with out being aware of all the facts. As the saying goes, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone....so that counts all the above out for a start ![/quote] Theres a big difference between having a drink in the privacy of your own home with kids around than being out in the street near busy roads and drunk.. [/quote] Yeah, nice one \"me, London\" you retard, get p1ssed up at home and let the little toerags run amok with matches, carving knives and machetes. Poor little sods.[/quote] who said anything about getting p1ssed, I just said "a drink" you don't have to get drunk to have a drink.. most normal, sensible adults can have a glass of wine without getting drunk.. your kids might be toerags that don't know how to behave when dads passed out on the sofa but not all our kids are like that... your the retard mate...
Steve O wrote:
me wrote: who do u lot think u r wrote: methinks some people think their poop dont stink, i bet before this article non of you even new it was illegal to be drunk in charge of a minor. I bet there are very few families in the country who havent had a drink whilst in charge of their children. Ok her drunken behaviour was out of order, but the story doesnt tell the whole picture, and as usual the newsshoppers holier than thou whiter than white readers jump on the poor women with out being aware of all the facts. As the saying goes, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone....so that counts all the above out for a start !
Theres a big difference between having a drink in the privacy of your own home with kids around than being out in the street near busy roads and drunk..
Yeah, nice one \"me, London\" you retard, get p1ssed up at home and let the little toerags run amok with matches, carving knives and machetes. Poor little sods.
who said anything about getting p1ssed, I just said "a drink" you don't have to get drunk to have a drink.. most normal, sensible adults can have a glass of wine without getting drunk.. your kids might be toerags that don't know how to behave when dads passed out on the sofa but not all our kids are like that... your the retard mate...
Posted by: G, orpington on 1:34am Thu 27 Mar 08
I get so annoyed by this i hate parents who have no respect for thier kids and get drunk around them.
Also what realy winds me up is that the government are trying to ban smoking and it has been banned in public places it makes me sick when will they do something about the drunken britain i watch the news read it every where it's just sickening the poor police have to put up with this every weekend the drunks out fighting and assaulting the ambulance crews but is this stopped no it's left to go on.
I know smoking is bad but how many times do you read of a person being stabbed to death with the butt of a fag.
I don't know where this countries going to it's just wrong.
I get so annoyed by this i hate parents who have no respect for thier kids and get drunk around them.
Also what realy winds me up is that the government are trying to ban smoking and it has been banned in public places it makes me sick when will they do something about the drunken britain i watch the news read it every where it's just sickening the poor police have to put up with this every weekend the drunks out fighting and assaulting the ambulance crews but is this stopped no it's left to go on.
I know smoking is bad but how many times do you read of a person being stabbed to death with the butt of a fag.
I don't know where this countries going to it's just wrong.
Posted by: Desnond, Borough on 6:38am Thu 27 Mar 08
Give the poor woman a break. When I was a toddler I used to drive my mum to drink. I have many a happy childhood memory sat outside the pub with a packet of bacon fries and a lemonade whilst Ma was letting off steam with her mates.
It didnt do me any harm. Now where are me pills???
Give the poor woman a break. When I was a toddler I used to drive my mum to drink. I have many a happy childhood memory sat outside the pub with a packet of bacon fries and a lemonade whilst Ma was letting off steam with her mates.
It didnt do me any harm. Now where are me pills???
Posted by: DavidCH, West London on 8:43am Thu 27 Mar 08
Do enjoy your new society where people are not free to enjoy themselves. Where traffic wardens hide around the corner to catch people out, where people get prosecuted for their toddlers dropping a crisp, where one is ostracised because of a habit that has always been legal, where parents cannot have a glass or two to get through the horror that you have partially created for them. The good parenting guide, written by non-parents in simple binary with dichotomous arguments to justify their shallow existence. Get lives.
Do enjoy your new society where people are not free to enjoy themselves. Where traffic wardens hide around the corner to catch people out, where people get prosecuted for their toddlers dropping a crisp, where one is ostracised because of a habit that has always been legal, where parents cannot have a glass or two to get through the horror that you have partially created for them. The good parenting guide, written by non-parents in simple binary with dichotomous arguments to justify their shallow existence. Get lives.
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 12:09pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]DavidCH[/bold] wrote:
Do enjoy your new society where people are not free to enjoy themselves. Where traffic wardens hide around the corner to catch people out, where people get prosecuted for their toddlers dropping a crisp, where one is ostracised because of a habit that has always been legal, where parents cannot have a glass or two to get through the horror that you have partially created for them. The good parenting guide, written by non-parents in simple binary with dichotomous arguments to justify their shallow existence. Get lives.[/quote] Welcome everyone to the irrelevant world of DavidCH.
A world where it is clearly fine to take two 15-month-old kids to the pub and get drunk.
A world where this constitutes simply being free to enjoy yourself.
Fortunately, freedom doesn't work quite like that. She's only free to enjoy herself to the point that this doesn't endanger those in her care who are too young to be repsonsible for themselves.
That's why it's illegal and that's why she was arrested.
DavidCH wrote:
Do enjoy your new society where people are not free to enjoy themselves. Where traffic wardens hide around the corner to catch people out, where people get prosecuted for their toddlers dropping a crisp, where one is ostracised because of a habit that has always been legal, where parents cannot have a glass or two to get through the horror that you have partially created for them. The good parenting guide, written by non-parents in simple binary with dichotomous arguments to justify their shallow existence. Get lives.
Welcome everyone to the irrelevant world of DavidCH.
A world where it is clearly fine to take two 15-month-old kids to the pub and get drunk.
A world where this constitutes simply being free to enjoy yourself.
Fortunately, freedom doesn't work quite like that. She's only free to enjoy herself to the point that this doesn't endanger those in her care who are too young to be repsonsible for themselves.
That's why it's illegal and that's why she was arrested.
Posted by: who do u think u r, not near you snobs thank god ! on 12:18pm Thu 27 Mar 08
well well, you can tell the ones who are guilty as sin ! they are the ones saying " i would never dream of getting drunk or taking my kids to the pub " you bull crapping hypocritcal scum bags.
as for why was she drunk at 3.30, well you mindless moron, it could simply be her husband had just died, maybe she was just diagnosed as having life threatening cancer/disease, maybe she was the victim of domestic violence...but you newshopper lieing snobs keep telling everyone on a web site how whiter than white you are....not.....and we will keep seeing who the two faced liars are....oh and for information, i dont even know the women and have never heard of her, so much for her being my friend eh numptie chops, as usual the readers take the moral high ground without being aware of the full facts. as for the liar who said they wouldnt dream of taking their kids into a pub, well liar, i bet you have taken them for a meal, even the pizza hut serves beer you pathetic creep !
the fact is you can tell by the idiots reactions on here that they have been shamed into making an abusive response to try and mend their guilt ! how typical of those who like people to think higher than of them than the sewer filth they are.
well well, you can tell the ones who are guilty as sin ! they are the ones saying " i would never dream of getting drunk or taking my kids to the pub " you bull crapping hypocritcal scum bags.
as for why was she drunk at 3.30, well you mindless moron, it could simply be her husband had just died, maybe she was just diagnosed as having life threatening cancer/disease, maybe she was the victim of domestic violence...but you newshopper lieing snobs keep telling everyone on a web site how whiter than white you are....not.....and we will keep seeing who the two faced liars are....oh and for information, i dont even know the women and have never heard of her, so much for her being my friend eh numptie chops, as usual the readers take the moral high ground without being aware of the full facts. as for the liar who said they wouldnt dream of taking their kids into a pub, well liar, i bet you have taken them for a meal, even the pizza hut serves beer you pathetic creep !
the fact is you can tell by the idiots reactions on here that they have been shamed into making an abusive response to try and mend their guilt ! how typical of those who like people to think higher than of them than the sewer filth they are.
Posted by: Another slummer, local on 12:46pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]who do u think u r[/bold] wrote:
well well, you can tell the ones who are guilty as sin ! they are the ones saying " i would never dream of getting drunk or taking my kids to the pub " you bull crapping hypocritcal scum bags. as for why was she drunk at 3.30, well you mindless moron, it could simply be her husband had just died, maybe she was just diagnosed as having life threatening cancer/disease, maybe she was the victim of domestic violence...but you newshopper lieing snobs keep telling everyone on a web site how whiter than white you are....not.....and we will keep seeing who the two faced liars are....oh and for information, i dont even know the women and have never heard of her, so much for her being my friend eh numptie chops, as usual the readers take the moral high ground without being aware of the full facts. as for the liar who said they wouldnt dream of taking their kids into a pub, well liar, i bet you have taken them for a meal, even the pizza hut serves beer you pathetic creep ! the fact is you can tell by the idiots reactions on here that they have been shamed into making an abusive response to try and mend their guilt ! how typical of those who like people to think higher than of them than the sewer filth they are.[/quote] I agree wid u!!!!! wots rong wid bein drunk and got to 15 mnth kids? long as you still focus to change der nappies when dey start to leak there is nuffin rong with having afew beers to drown your sorrows when you bloke is pssd to and rowing all day wid u! yeh dey is sewer filth lol! hehe a few beers an maybe u see 4 kids insted of 2 enuf to get anyone pssd!!!
who do u think u r wrote:
well well, you can tell the ones who are guilty as sin ! they are the ones saying " i would never dream of getting drunk or taking my kids to the pub " you bull crapping hypocritcal scum bags. as for why was she drunk at 3.30, well you mindless moron, it could simply be her husband had just died, maybe she was just diagnosed as having life threatening cancer/disease, maybe she was the victim of domestic violence...but you newshopper lieing snobs keep telling everyone on a web site how whiter than white you are....not.....and we will keep seeing who the two faced liars are....oh and for information, i dont even know the women and have never heard of her, so much for her being my friend eh numptie chops, as usual the readers take the moral high ground without being aware of the full facts. as for the liar who said they wouldnt dream of taking their kids into a pub, well liar, i bet you have taken them for a meal, even the pizza hut serves beer you pathetic creep ! the fact is you can tell by the idiots reactions on here that they have been shamed into making an abusive response to try and mend their guilt ! how typical of those who like people to think higher than of them than the sewer filth they are.
I agree wid u!!!!! wots rong wid bein drunk and got to 15 mnth kids? long as you still focus to change der nappies when dey start to leak there is nuffin rong with having afew beers to drown your sorrows when you bloke is pssd to and rowing all day wid u! yeh dey is sewer filth lol! hehe a few beers an maybe u see 4 kids insted of 2 enuf to get anyone pssd!!!
Posted by: beer lover, nearby on 12:50pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]who do u think u r[/bold] wrote:
well well, you can tell the ones who are guilty as sin ! they are the ones saying " i would never dream of getting drunk or taking my kids to the pub " you bull crapping hypocritcal scum bags. as for why was she drunk at 3.30, well you mindless moron, it could simply be her husband had just died, maybe she was just diagnosed as having life threatening cancer/disease, maybe she was the victim of domestic violence...but you newshopper lieing snobs keep telling everyone on a web site how whiter than white you are....not.....and we will keep seeing who the two faced liars are....oh and for information, i dont even know the women and have never heard of her, so much for her being my friend eh numptie chops, as usual the readers take the moral high ground without being aware of the full facts. as for the liar who said they wouldnt dream of taking their kids into a pub, well liar, i bet you have taken them for a meal, even the pizza hut serves beer you pathetic creep ! the fact is you can tell by the idiots reactions on here that they have been shamed into making an abusive response to try and mend their guilt ! how typical of those who like people to think higher than of them than the sewer filth they are.[/quote] yeh go man go! I ain't one of those morons either, and I'm not white neither, haven't had a bath in years. I love a good drink down the pub and the kids don't mind either as long as they get there crisps and coke for supper! There is always a reason for a drink, celebration or sorrow, it HAS TO BE DONE! Thanx for sticking up for us boozy mums! ****
who do u think u r wrote:
well well, you can tell the ones who are guilty as sin ! they are the ones saying " i would never dream of getting drunk or taking my kids to the pub " you bull crapping hypocritcal scum bags. as for why was she drunk at 3.30, well you mindless moron, it could simply be her husband had just died, maybe she was just diagnosed as having life threatening cancer/disease, maybe she was the victim of domestic violence...but you newshopper lieing snobs keep telling everyone on a web site how whiter than white you are....not.....and we will keep seeing who the two faced liars are....oh and for information, i dont even know the women and have never heard of her, so much for her being my friend eh numptie chops, as usual the readers take the moral high ground without being aware of the full facts. as for the liar who said they wouldnt dream of taking their kids into a pub, well liar, i bet you have taken them for a meal, even the pizza hut serves beer you pathetic creep ! the fact is you can tell by the idiots reactions on here that they have been shamed into making an abusive response to try and mend their guilt ! how typical of those who like people to think higher than of them than the sewer filth they are.
yeh go man go! I ain't one of those morons either, and I'm not white neither, haven't had a bath in years. I love a good drink down the pub and the kids don't mind either as long as they get there crisps and coke for supper! There is always a reason for a drink, celebration or sorrow, it HAS TO BE DONE! Thanx for sticking up for us boozy mums! ****
Posted by: DavidCH, The More salubrious part of London on 1:17pm Thu 27 Mar 08
So let's get this straight, if there are actually any parents out there. Over the time your little Darlinks were growing up, neither of you had one too many sherberts? No wonder you have so much carp to say herein get a life and go breed if you can. It doesn't actually say in the report how pee'd she was but once again the ninnies extrapolated wildly.
HRHCH
So let's get this straight, if there are actually any parents out there. Over the time your little Darlinks were growing up, neither of you had one too many sherberts? No wonder you have so much carp to say herein get a life and go breed if you can. It doesn't actually say in the report how pee'd she was but once again the ninnies extrapolated wildly.
HRHCH
Posted by: ClockWatcher, Welling on 1:18pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]who do u think u r[/bold] wrote:
well well, you can tell the ones who are guilty as sin ! they are the ones saying \" i would never dream of getting drunk or taking my kids to the pub \" you bull crapping hypocritcal scum bags.
as for why was she drunk at 3.30, well you mindless moron, it could simply be her husband had just died, maybe she was just diagnosed as having life threatening cancer/disease, maybe she was the victim of domestic violence...but you newshopper lieing snobs keep telling everyone on a web site how whiter than white you are....not.....and we will keep seeing who the two faced liars are....oh and for information, i dont even know the women and have never heard of her, so much for her being my friend eh numptie chops, as usual the readers take the moral high ground without being aware of the full facts. as for the liar who said they wouldnt dream of taking their kids into a pub, well liar, i bet you have taken them for a meal, even the pizza hut serves beer you pathetic creep !
the fact is you can tell by the idiots reactions on here that they have been shamed into making an abusive response to try and mend their guilt ! how typical of those who like people to think higher than of them than the sewer filth they are.[/quote] I think someone is feeling guilty....
Personally I hardly ever drink and NEVER drink when I'm looking after my children.
I will occasionally have a drink in the evening at the weekends - but that's one or two - I certainly do not get drunk - only irresponsible fools would get drunk when they are supposed to be responsible for children.
If you think it's ok to be drunk when looking after children - then I think you have a HUGE problem.
who do u think u r wrote:
well well, you can tell the ones who are guilty as sin ! they are the ones saying \" i would never dream of getting drunk or taking my kids to the pub \" you bull crapping hypocritcal scum bags.
as for why was she drunk at 3.30, well you mindless moron, it could simply be her husband had just died, maybe she was just diagnosed as having life threatening cancer/disease, maybe she was the victim of domestic violence...but you newshopper lieing snobs keep telling everyone on a web site how whiter than white you are....not.....and we will keep seeing who the two faced liars are....oh and for information, i dont even know the women and have never heard of her, so much for her being my friend eh numptie chops, as usual the readers take the moral high ground without being aware of the full facts. as for the liar who said they wouldnt dream of taking their kids into a pub, well liar, i bet you have taken them for a meal, even the pizza hut serves beer you pathetic creep !
the fact is you can tell by the idiots reactions on here that they have been shamed into making an abusive response to try and mend their guilt ! how typical of those who like people to think higher than of them than the sewer filth they are.
I think someone is feeling guilty....
Personally I hardly ever drink and NEVER drink when I'm looking after my children.
I will occasionally have a drink in the evening at the weekends - but that's one or two - I certainly do not get drunk - only irresponsible fools would get drunk when they are supposed to be responsible for children.
If you think it's ok to be drunk when looking after children - then I think you have a HUGE problem.
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 1:31pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Yep, I'm a parent too and, like Clockwatcher, I recognise that being responsible for a child/children means not getting drunk when you're supposed to be looking after them ("It was alleged 38-year-old Post was being abusive and refused to leave the premises" - if nothing else, what a great example to the little ones). It's quite straightforward really.
Yep, I'm a parent too and, like Clockwatcher, I recognise that being responsible for a child/children means not getting drunk when you're supposed to be looking after them ("It was alleged 38-year-old Post was being abusive and refused to leave the premises" - if nothing else, what a great example to the little ones). It's quite straightforward really.
Posted by: DavidCH, SW1 on 1:36pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Since when has abusive etc meant being drunk? Where does it say how drunk she was? If you have other sources then please provide.
Since when has abusive etc meant being drunk? Where does it say how drunk she was? If you have other sources then please provide.
Posted by: ClockWatcher, Welling on 1:42pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]DavidCH[/bold] wrote:
Since when has abusive etc meant being drunk? Where does it say how drunk she was? If you have other sources then please provide.[/quote] She 'pleaded guilty to being drunk....etc', how drunk does she have to have been before she became a risk to the children?
Again I state there is a difference between having a drink and being drunk - no matter how drunk you are.
The definition of drunk is: [italic]intoxicated with alcoholic liquor to the point of impairment of physical and mental faculties[/italic] Says it all really.
DavidCH wrote:
Since when has abusive etc meant being drunk? Where does it say how drunk she was? If you have other sources then please provide.
She 'pleaded guilty to being drunk....etc', how drunk does she have to have been before she became a risk to the children?
Again I state there is a difference between having a drink and being drunk - no matter how drunk you are.
The definition of drunk is:
intoxicated with alcoholic liquor to the point of impairment of physical and mental faculties Says it all really.
Posted by: em, Calgary on 1:55pm Thu 27 Mar 08
She was drunk, she had children in her care and she was drunk!! Do these children not deserve better care? Were they inside the pub with her? or were they outside on the street alone and at risk from any other drunken so and so or pervert that happens by? There is no excuse for being drunk around children, the children deserve better care and should be protected from this woman until she gets her life together...
She was drunk, she had children in her care and she was drunk!! Do these children not deserve better care? Were they inside the pub with her? or were they outside on the street alone and at risk from any other drunken so and so or pervert that happens by? There is no excuse for being drunk around children, the children deserve better care and should be protected from this woman until she gets her life together...
Posted by: DavidcH, Ivory Towersville on 2:07pm Thu 27 Mar 08
A law from 1902. I suggest you sanctimonious ninnies go into everyones home and make yourselves feel better at being able to provide 'better care' than everyone else. Let's include dirty grubby houses with dogs, anyone who hasn't had their gas checked out, anyone smoking in the presence of a <7 year old, anyone with psychological issues such as depression, Anyone with a child in a car that has a defective number plate light, anyone having their child in the wrong position for sleeping (can't keep up with the latest, anyone having a glass of wine whilst pregnant, anyone feeding pies to their kids, not having worked hard at school and having a child that you cannot support properly,.... * fill in your fave make yourself feel better than the plebs activity *
A law from 1902. I suggest you sanctimonious ninnies go into everyones home and make yourselves feel better at being able to provide 'better care' than everyone else. Let's include dirty grubby houses with dogs, anyone who hasn't had their gas checked out, anyone smoking in the presence of a <7 year old, anyone with psychological issues such as depression, Anyone with a child in a car that has a defective number plate light, anyone having their child in the wrong position for sleeping (can't keep up with the latest, anyone having a glass of wine whilst pregnant, anyone feeding pies to their kids, not having worked hard at school and having a child that you cannot support properly,.... * fill in your fave make yourself feel better than the plebs activity *
Posted by: em, calgary on 2:31pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Lets stay on track here, we are talking about a woman, who chose, yes chose, to go to a pub with 2 very young children and be drunk while they were in her care. She seriously neglected their safety... This is what we are talking about.. There are no excuses for her behaviour.. She was wrong, she was negligent. Why are people making excuses for her?
Lets stay on track here, we are talking about a woman, who chose, yes chose, to go to a pub with 2 very young children and be drunk while they were in her care. She seriously neglected their safety... This is what we are talking about.. There are no excuses for her behaviour.. She was wrong, she was negligent. Why are people making excuses for her?
Posted by: Pam, Erith on 2:40pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]DavidcH[/bold] wrote:
A law from 1902. I suggest you sanctimonious ninnies go into everyones home and make yourselves feel better at being able to provide 'better care' than everyone else. Let's include dirty grubby houses with dogs, anyone who hasn't had their gas checked out, anyone smoking in the presence of a <7 year old, anyone with psychological issues such as depression, Anyone with a child in a car that has a defective number plate light, anyone having their child in the wrong position for sleeping (can't keep up with the latest, anyone having a glass of wine whilst pregnant, anyone feeding pies to their kids, not having worked hard at school and having a child that you cannot support properly,.... * fill in your fave make yourself feel better than the plebs activity *[/quote] David come down from your ivory tower and tell me this is a wind up! Your comments clearly indicate that you condone being drunk and in charge of toddlers! My father drank like a fish and abused and knocked me about every time he hit the scotch. How you can condone this drunkeness is beyond reason! A dirty house with a dog does not compare to the suffering inflicted on a child from an drunken abusive parent! What is wrong with you? WAKE UP!
The woman was abusive and drunk, do you honestly believe that her judgement would not be impaired when dealing with the care of her children? Why do you think the children were removed immediately from her care? From the way you speak I think you have some issues from your own childhood that need to be dealt with, because if this sort of behaviour is [bold]OK[/bold] then God knows what happened to you as a kid.
DavidcH wrote:
A law from 1902. I suggest you sanctimonious ninnies go into everyones home and make yourselves feel better at being able to provide 'better care' than everyone else. Let's include dirty grubby houses with dogs, anyone who hasn't had their gas checked out, anyone smoking in the presence of a <7 year old, anyone with psychological issues such as depression, Anyone with a child in a car that has a defective number plate light, anyone having their child in the wrong position for sleeping (can't keep up with the latest, anyone having a glass of wine whilst pregnant, anyone feeding pies to their kids, not having worked hard at school and having a child that you cannot support properly,.... * fill in your fave make yourself feel better than the plebs activity *
David come down from your ivory tower and tell me this is a wind up! Your comments clearly indicate that you condone being drunk and in charge of toddlers! My father drank like a fish and abused and knocked me about every time he hit the scotch. How you can condone this drunkeness is beyond reason! A dirty house with a dog does not compare to the suffering inflicted on a child from an drunken abusive parent! What is wrong with you? WAKE UP!
The woman was abusive and drunk, do you honestly believe that her judgement would not be impaired when dealing with the care of her children? Why do you think the children were removed immediately from her care? From the way you speak I think you have some issues from your own childhood that need to be dealt with, because if this sort of behaviour is
OK then God knows what happened to you as a kid.
Posted by: DavidCH, There but for the grace on 2:44pm Thu 27 Mar 08
They are not making excuses they are saying that the vast majority of people have had a few when in charge of their kids. Maybe after they have gone to bed they pop a bottle of wine. Maybe at times of stress they drink one too many. Maybe hubby comes back from the pub blotto, same deal he is in charge as well. Where do you want the lines drawn, one glass, two, one for a pleb and up to three for the more caring in our society by their self determined criteria? Leave people to enjoy their lives and get on with your own. This is an assault on our way of life.
They are not making excuses they are saying that the vast majority of people have had a few when in charge of their kids. Maybe after they have gone to bed they pop a bottle of wine. Maybe at times of stress they drink one too many. Maybe hubby comes back from the pub blotto, same deal he is in charge as well. Where do you want the lines drawn, one glass, two, one for a pleb and up to three for the more caring in our society by their self determined criteria? Leave people to enjoy their lives and get on with your own. This is an assault on our way of life.
Posted by: DavidCH, 60s Child on 2:54pm Thu 27 Mar 08
At 3-5 like most kids in the mid 60's in the North of England I was roaming the streets, nowt to do with the fact that my Mum was violent and often drunk. I knew respect and I now know how to survive. Then the theoretical parents started to tell people how they should care for their kids and look where we are, ruled by over pampered kids. If the kids came to any harm due to her actions then take it up as neglect, being abusive is a common trait of the gormless not just the odd drunk.
At 3-5 like most kids in the mid 60's in the North of England I was roaming the streets, nowt to do with the fact that my Mum was violent and often drunk. I knew respect and I now know how to survive. Then the theoretical parents started to tell people how they should care for their kids and look where we are, ruled by over pampered kids. If the kids came to any harm due to her actions then take it up as neglect, being abusive is a common trait of the gormless not just the odd drunk.
Posted by: em, Calgary on 2:55pm Thu 27 Mar 08
And maybe this woman took 2 tiny children to a pub, where she was drunk and abusive, basically leaving them to fend for themselves. Oh wait that is exactly what she did!!
Yea you are right, she should have been left to enjoy herself without concerned citizens interfering to aid these children and assaulting her way of life. NOT!
And maybe this woman took 2 tiny children to a pub, where she was drunk and abusive, basically leaving them to fend for themselves. Oh wait that is exactly what she did!!
Yea you are right, she should have been left to enjoy herself without concerned citizens interfering to aid these children and assaulting her way of life. NOT!
Posted by: Sunny, London on 3:02pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]em[/bold] wrote:
Lets stay on track here, we are talking about a woman, who chose, yes chose, to go to a pub with 2 very young children and be drunk while they were in her care. She seriously neglected their safety... This is what we are talking about.. There are no excuses for her behaviour.. She was wrong, she was negligent. Why are people making excuses for her?[/quote] People are making excuses for this woman because it is probably the lifestyle they are accustomed to.
em wrote:
Lets stay on track here, we are talking about a woman, who chose, yes chose, to go to a pub with 2 very young children and be drunk while they were in her care. She seriously neglected their safety... This is what we are talking about.. There are no excuses for her behaviour.. She was wrong, she was negligent. Why are people making excuses for her?
People are making excuses for this woman because it is probably the lifestyle they are accustomed to.
Posted by: DavidCH, The real world on 3:22pm Thu 27 Mar 08
What is the matter with you, nobody is excusing her??? No harm came to the kids, millions seem to come to no harm every day even though they are at the receiving end of abject fecklessness. Are we to take them all away from their parents because we feel a better job can be done? Well as I said, this is the way it has always been apart from the nincompoops who now feel they need to castigate all and sundry if they have different ideas on parenting. Not knowing the circumstances that may be behind the actions. Perhaps you should listen to people who have lived and not be so holier than thou.
What is the matter with you, nobody is excusing her??? No harm came to the kids, millions seem to come to no harm every day even though they are at the receiving end of abject fecklessness. Are we to take them all away from their parents because we feel a better job can be done? Well as I said, this is the way it has always been apart from the nincompoops who now feel they need to castigate all and sundry if they have different ideas on parenting. Not knowing the circumstances that may be behind the actions. Perhaps you should listen to people who have lived and not be so holier than thou.
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 3:37pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Indeed, let's celebrate our "different ideas on parenting". You and Sarah Post think it's OK to take two 15-month-olds to the pub and get drunk; most of the rest of us think it's not. I'm happy to go with the majority view on this one.
Indeed, let's celebrate our "different ideas on parenting". You and Sarah Post think it's OK to take two 15-month-olds to the pub and get drunk; most of the rest of us think it's not. I'm happy to go with the majority view on this one.
Posted by: DavidCH, minding my own business on 3:40pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Can you not read, where is it I said I thought it OK? It's none of mine nor your business. If you read around other forums you will find many who say God I hope they don't come around my house on a Friday night.
Can you not read, where is it I said I thought it OK? It's none of mine nor your business. If you read around other forums you will find many who say God I hope they don't come around my house on a Friday night.
Posted by: em, calgary on 3:46pm Thu 27 Mar 08
No no no No!!... When children are being neglected it is very much all of our business's
No no no No!!... When children are being neglected it is very much all of our business's
Posted by: Sunny, London on 3:48pm Thu 27 Mar 08
dAVIDCH - You really are a stroppy little man and you miss the point. Having two 15 month olds in a pub with drunk parent on busy road and her hurling abuse - that does sound like really good parenting. Children are often best kept with the grandparents, the older generation with wisdom, care and manners!
dAVIDCH - You really are a stroppy little man and you miss the point. Having two 15 month olds in a pub with drunk parent on busy road and her hurling abuse - that does sound like really good parenting. Children are often best kept with the grandparents, the older generation with wisdom, care and manners!
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 3:52pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Exactly the point em. By saying it's not our business you're saying there's no need to intervene, which means you think the behaviour is acceptable. You seem keen on drawing lines, so the obvious question is: where do you draw the line of intervention; how serious does the crime (yes, she committed a criminal offence) have to be before you would sanction intervention - i.e. before you would approve of the police enforcing the law?
Exactly the point em. By saying it's not our business you're saying there's no need to intervene, which means you think the behaviour is acceptable. You seem keen on drawing lines, so the obvious question is: where do you draw the line of intervention; how serious does the crime (yes, she committed a criminal offence) have to be before you would sanction intervention - i.e. before you would approve of the police enforcing the law?
Posted by: DavidCH, London on 3:53pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Why after generations of how it has been is it now all of a sudden our business? Did we grow up damaged, I think most will say not relative to how todays lot are? Neglect is subjective, I might say that neglecting to give a brat a thick ear is neglect. It's the new religion to be better than everyone else, which indicates one is weak and insecure imho. Leave people to parent, look where the interference has gotten us.
Why after generations of how it has been is it now all of a sudden our business? Did we grow up damaged, I think most will say not relative to how todays lot are? Neglect is subjective, I might say that neglecting to give a brat a thick ear is neglect. It's the new religion to be better than everyone else, which indicates one is weak and insecure imho. Leave people to parent, look where the interference has gotten us.
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 4:03pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]DavidCH[/bold] wrote:
Why after generations of how it has been is it now all of a sudden our business? Did we grow up damaged, I think most will say not relative to how todays lot are? Neglect is subjective, I might say that neglecting to give a brat a thick ear is neglect. It\'s the new religion to be better than everyone else, which indicates one is weak and insecure imho. Leave people to parent, look where the interference has gotten us.[/quote] Here we go again. DavidCH, your allergic reaction to change is laughable. Why after generations do we all of a sudden need fire? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need wheels? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need the printing press? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need the electric light? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need to end the slave trade? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need to give women the vote? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need free access to education and health? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need computers? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need the internet?
Things change. Get over it.
DavidCH wrote:
Why after generations of how it has been is it now all of a sudden our business? Did we grow up damaged, I think most will say not relative to how todays lot are? Neglect is subjective, I might say that neglecting to give a brat a thick ear is neglect. It\'s the new religion to be better than everyone else, which indicates one is weak and insecure imho. Leave people to parent, look where the interference has gotten us.
Here we go again. DavidCH, your allergic reaction to change is laughable. Why after generations do we all of a sudden need fire? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need wheels? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need the printing press? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need the electric light? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need to end the slave trade? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need to give women the vote? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need free access to education and health? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need computers? Why after generations do we all of a sudden need the internet?
Things change. Get over it.
Posted by: DavidCH on 4:10pm Thu 27 Mar 08
We live in a sick society where people grass on everyone else over trivial matters like road tax out of date. How did this generation without honour come to be? How with no gain to themselves are they happy to damage another? Although I'm a bit wrong there, I should have said no material gain, of course bigging oneself up is even more selfish than real gain. You will spawn a new generation of even more self-righteous idiots who will impinge on even your liberties. Many worry about big brother but it is you who are making it reality and all the time paying for it through punitive ninny taxes. Good luck with your chosen course. I now have to have a beer with my son, thank God this is still something we can enjoy, as well as a laugh about nerds of course.
Have a lovely evening HRH CH
We live in a sick society where people grass on everyone else over trivial matters like road tax out of date. How did this generation without honour come to be? How with no gain to themselves are they happy to damage another? Although I'm a bit wrong there, I should have said no material gain, of course bigging oneself up is even more selfish than real gain. You will spawn a new generation of even more self-righteous idiots who will impinge on even your liberties. Many worry about big brother but it is you who are making it reality and all the time paying for it through punitive ninny taxes. Good luck with your chosen course. I now have to have a beer with my son, thank God this is still something we can enjoy, as well as a laugh about nerds of course.
Have a lovely evening HRH CH
Posted by: Pink Kitten, London on 4:16pm Thu 27 Mar 08
This woman's behaviour is disgusting. But have any of you considered how many of these benefit mothers sit at home with their kids smoking dope? Should they be allowed responsibility of their children when they are stoned out of their heads?
This woman's behaviour is disgusting. But have any of you considered how many of these benefit mothers sit at home with their kids smoking dope? Should they be allowed responsibility of their children when they are stoned out of their heads?
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 4:21pm Thu 27 Mar 08
"We live in a sick society where people grass on everyone else over trivial matters like road tax out of date."
Err...and this is comparable to being drunk in charge of toddlers in what way exactly?
"I now have to have a beer with my son."
Which will be fine, I'm sure. I'm guessing he's older than 15 months.
Can everyone please note that the next time DavidCH wants his rubbish collected, roads cleaned, children educated, heart attack treated, country defended etc...we won't be able to because all the "punitive ninny tax" laws have been repealed.
"We live in a sick society where people grass on everyone else over trivial matters like road tax out of date."
Err...and this is comparable to being drunk in charge of toddlers in what way exactly?
"I now have to have a beer with my son."
Which will be fine, I'm sure. I'm guessing he's older than 15 months.
Can everyone please note that the next time DavidCH wants his rubbish collected, roads cleaned, children educated, heart attack treated, country defended etc...we won't be able to because all the "punitive ninny tax" laws have been repealed.
Posted by: DavidCH on 4:22pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Pink Kitten[/bold] wrote:
This woman's behaviour is disgusting. But have any of you considered how many of these benefit mothers sit at home with their kids smoking dope? Should they be allowed responsibility of their children when they are stoned out of their heads?[/quote] Indeed, how about all the junkies and their kids? See how the urban foxes redistribute the methadone empties on garbage morning?
Pink Kitten wrote:
This woman's behaviour is disgusting. But have any of you considered how many of these benefit mothers sit at home with their kids smoking dope? Should they be allowed responsibility of their children when they are stoned out of their heads?
Indeed, how about all the junkies and their kids? See how the urban foxes redistribute the methadone empties on garbage morning?
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 4:24pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Pink Kitten[/bold] wrote:
This woman's behaviour is disgusting. But have any of you considered how many of these benefit mothers sit at home with their kids smoking dope? Should they be allowed responsibility of their children when they are stoned out of their heads?[/quote] No. Next question.
Pink Kitten wrote:
This woman's behaviour is disgusting. But have any of you considered how many of these benefit mothers sit at home with their kids smoking dope? Should they be allowed responsibility of their children when they are stoned out of their heads?
No. Next question.
Posted by: Sunny, London on 4:26pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[italic][italic]'We live in a sick society where people grass on everyone else over trivial matters like road tax out of date. How did this generation without honour come to be'[/italic][/italic] Trivial matters! Your priorities are clearly out of date. It is illegal to drive without tax, insurance and a driving licence. Didn't you know that? Of course you should pay the price otherwise you are breaking the law. I pay for my road tax, without whinging, although the roads are a disgrace.
'We live in a sick society where people grass on everyone else over trivial matters like road tax out of date. How did this generation without honour come to be' Trivial matters! Your priorities are clearly out of date. It is illegal to drive without tax, insurance and a driving licence. Didn't you know that? Of course you should pay the price otherwise you are breaking the law. I pay for my road tax, without whinging, although the roads are a disgrace.
Posted by: Pink Kitten, London on 4:27pm Thu 27 Mar 08
True DavidCH there are lots of children that are in the care of their parents who are registered heroine addicts. There have been lots of cases where children have died because they got hold of methadone.
Her behaviour is disgusting but get things into perspective.
True DavidCH there are lots of children that are in the care of their parents who are registered heroine addicts. There have been lots of cases where children have died because they got hold of methadone.
Her behaviour is disgusting but get things into perspective.
Posted by: DavidCH, London (Outer reaches) on 4:29pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sisyphus[/bold] wrote:
\"We live in a sick society where people grass on everyone else over trivial matters like road tax out of date.\" Err...and this is comparable to being drunk in charge of toddlers in what way exactly? \"I now have to have a beer with my son.\" Which will be fine, I\'m sure. I\'m guessing he\'s older than 15 months. Can everyone please note that the next time DavidCH wants his rubbish collected, roads cleaned, children educated, heart attack treated, country defended etc...we won\'t be able to because all the \"punitive ninny tax\" laws have been repealed.[/quote] Oh Sis, you don't think I need any of those things do you? I worked hard at school and from a background far worse than you could ever imagine I got on with my lot. I have three lovely kids who are all of an age that they could at least drink beer or cider in a restaurant. I learned by counter example from my feckless Mother. I'm not perfect but **** near it.
Sisyphus wrote:
\"We live in a sick society where people grass on everyone else over trivial matters like road tax out of date.\" Err...and this is comparable to being drunk in charge of toddlers in what way exactly? \"I now have to have a beer with my son.\" Which will be fine, I\'m sure. I\'m guessing he\'s older than 15 months. Can everyone please note that the next time DavidCH wants his rubbish collected, roads cleaned, children educated, heart attack treated, country defended etc...we won\'t be able to because all the \"punitive ninny tax\" laws have been repealed.
Oh Sis, you don't think I need any of those things do you? I worked hard at school and from a background far worse than you could ever imagine I got on with my lot. I have three lovely kids who are all of an age that they could at least drink beer or cider in a restaurant. I learned by counter example from my feckless Mother. I'm not perfect but **** near it.
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 4:32pm Thu 27 Mar 08
You sweep your own road do you? Collect your own refuse? Maintain your own standing army to defend your territory? Give it up. You're embarrassing yourself.
You sweep your own road do you? Collect your own refuse? Maintain your own standing army to defend your territory? Give it up. You're embarrassing yourself.
Posted by: Pink Kitten, London on 4:34pm Thu 27 Mar 08
People like Sisyphus put themselves up on a pedalstool so they can look down on everyone. Those type of people normally have more skeletons in the closet than anyone else. If you have a need to belittle people to make yourself feel better then you are the one with the problem. Sisyphus I have news for you... your secret is out darling!
People like Sisyphus put themselves up on a pedalstool so they can look down on everyone. Those type of people normally have more skeletons in the closet than anyone else. If you have a need to belittle people to make yourself feel better then you are the one with the problem. Sisyphus I have news for you... your secret is out darling!
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 4:36pm Thu 27 Mar 08
What's a pedalstool?
Posted by: Pink Kitten, London on 4:42pm Thu 27 Mar 08
I'm guessing you're single, you would bore the pants off any man the way you carry on nag nag nag!
I'm guessing you're single, you would bore the pants off any man the way you carry on nag nag nag!
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 4:43pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Not single, gay or a woman. Nice try though.
Next!...this one's all used up.
Not single, gay or a woman. Nice try though.
Next!...this one's all used up.
Posted by: Pink Kitten, London on 4:45pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Well I know one thing about you that is for certain you are a BORE!
Well I know one thing about you that is for certain you are a BORE!
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 4:46pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Wow, your memory is short.
"If you have a need to belittle people to make yourself feel better then you are the one with the problem."
Wow, your memory is short.
"If you have a need to belittle people to make yourself feel better then you are the one with the problem."
Posted by: Pink Kitten, London on 4:49pm Thu 27 Mar 08
You should hook up with Siborenetic, you two could have a competition to see who is the biggest bore!
You should hook up with Siborenetic, you two could have a competition to see who is the biggest bore!
Posted by: Pink Kitten, London on 4:50pm Thu 27 Mar 08
I'm bored goodbye!
Posted by: Sisyphus, Bromley on 4:52pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Pink Kitten[/bold] wrote:
I'm bored goodbye![/quote] Such a bright and challenging contributor. I always enjoy a well honed point, soundly put by an intelligent mind.
Pink Kitten wrote:
I'm bored goodbye!
Such a bright and challenging contributor. I always enjoy a well honed point, soundly put by an intelligent mind.
Posted by: ClockWatcher, Welling on 8:27pm Thu 27 Mar 08
DavidCH, having a drink is different from being drunk - why is that so hard for you to accept?
DavidCH, having a drink is different from being drunk - why is that so hard for you to accept?
Posted by: rat arsed, Stoned on 10:54am Fri 28 Mar 08
i fink it is a disgrace that thos kids didn't take better care of thier mum. 15 months old and allowing her to get drunk wot were they finking of?
i fink it is a disgrace that thos kids didn't take better care of thier mum. 15 months old and allowing her to get drunk wot were they finking of?
Posted by: Brahms @ Lizst, and the proverbial newt on 10:06pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]rat arsed[/bold] wrote:
i fink it is a disgrace that thos kids didn't take better care of thier mum. 15 months old and allowing her to get drunk wot were they finking of?[/quote] If they had been given the chance they might have ended up with a mum like PINK KITTEN! But to be totally honest I heard that the twins were paralytic at the time and flaked out in their double buggy.
rat arsed wrote:
i fink it is a disgrace that thos kids didn't take better care of thier mum. 15 months old and allowing her to get drunk wot were they finking of?
If they had been given the chance they might have ended up with a mum like PINK KITTEN! But to be totally honest I heard that the twins were paralytic at the time and flaked out in their double buggy.
Posted by: k.frost on 12:35pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sisyphus[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]k.frost[/bold] wrote: Another product of continuous Conservative and Labour governments.[/quote] Err...care to elaborate? Or were you just bored and fancied writing something totally irrelevant?[/quote] Apologies if it was above your threshold.
We live in an alcohol is acceptable society.
Three of the most watched tv programs are pub based , sports teams are brewery sponsered , alcohol is available almost eveywhere from railway stations to zoos , the media glamourise drunken bahaviour and tv " stars" often make light of how drunk they where the other night , one drink advert (for example) says people will " belong " and know who their mates are if they drink.
Alcohol causes so much misery to so many people (domestic violence , neglected children , agressive behaviour on our streets , strain on nhs and public workers etc )but the government are
too scared to upset the major breweries because of the money they have and most people know that people like the Murdoch family can make or break any government they like.
Hope that answers your question of
[italic]"Or were you just bored and fancied writing something totally irrelevant?".[/italic]
Sisyphus wrote:
k.frost wrote: Another product of continuous Conservative and Labour governments.
Err...care to elaborate? Or were you just bored and fancied writing something totally irrelevant?
Apologies if it was above your threshold.
We live in an alcohol is acceptable society.
Three of the most watched tv programs are pub based , sports teams are brewery sponsered , alcohol is available almost eveywhere from railway stations to zoos , the media glamourise drunken bahaviour and tv " stars" often make light of how drunk they where the other night , one drink advert (for example) says people will " belong " and know who their mates are if they drink.
Alcohol causes so much misery to so many people (domestic violence , neglected children , agressive behaviour on our streets , strain on nhs and public workers etc )but the government are
too scared to upset the major breweries because of the money they have and most people know that people like the Murdoch family can make or break any government they like.
Hope that answers your question of
"Or were you just bored and fancied writing something totally irrelevant?". Posted by: G, Gravesend on 2:28pm Sat 29 Mar 08
I have to admit I didn't understand your earlier comment, K Frost, but now you have elaborated, it makes total sense and I agree alcohol causes a great deal of misery and is indeed profitable to those who supply it.
I have to admit I didn't understand your earlier comment, K Frost, but now you have elaborated, it makes total sense and I agree alcohol causes a great deal of misery and is indeed profitable to those who supply it.
Posted by: a realist, kent on 3:18pm Sat 29 Mar 08
I am a mum and i love a night out with friends after working full time to provide for my son, but when i do go out I make sure my son is looked after by my parents because when i chose to have him, i realised i was responsible and chose to have him meaning i had to grow up.
I knew that my social life wouldn't be as good as before but being old enough to have a kid, i understood that.
Any parent who goes to the pub during the day with any kids and then get wasted - and yes she would have been pretty wasted to be nicked and charged for it - shouldn't have kids cos all kids deserve a chance in life.
Anyone who thinks she did the right thing really needs to sober up clean up whatever and then think bout whether she was right
I am a mum and i love a night out with friends after working full time to provide for my son, but when i do go out I make sure my son is looked after by my parents because when i chose to have him, i realised i was responsible and chose to have him meaning i had to grow up.
I knew that my social life wouldn't be as good as before but being old enough to have a kid, i understood that.
Any parent who goes to the pub during the day with any kids and then get wasted - and yes she would have been pretty wasted to be nicked and charged for it - shouldn't have kids cos all kids deserve a chance in life.
Anyone who thinks she did the right thing really needs to sober up clean up whatever and then think bout whether she was right
Posted by: sisyphus, Bromley on 1:17pm Sun 30 Mar 08
[quote][bold]k.frost[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sisyphus[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]k.frost[/bold] wrote: Another product of continuous Conservative and Labour governments.[/quote] Err...care to elaborate? Or were you just bored and fancied writing something totally irrelevant?[/quote] Apologies if it was above your threshold.
We live in an alcohol is acceptable society.
Three of the most watched tv programs are pub based , sports teams are brewery sponsered , alcohol is available almost eveywhere from railway stations to zoos , the media glamourise drunken bahaviour and tv " stars" often make light of how drunk they where the other night , one drink advert (for example) says people will " belong " and know who their mates are if they drink.
Alcohol causes so much misery to so many people (domestic violence , neglected children , agressive behaviour on our streets , strain on nhs and public workers etc )but the government are
too scared to upset the major breweries because of the money they have and most people know that people like the Murdoch family can make or break any government they like.
Hope that answers your question of
[italic]"Or were you just bored and fancied writing something totally irrelevant?".[/italic] [/quote] I'm not sure such a vague comment cold be described as above anyone's threshold, you should have just said this in the first place. I don't necessarily agree but at least we know what your point is now.
k.frost wrote:
Sisyphus wrote:
k.frost wrote: Another product of continuous Conservative and Labour governments.
Err...care to elaborate? Or were you just bored and fancied writing something totally irrelevant?
Apologies if it was above your threshold.
We live in an alcohol is acceptable society.
Three of the most watched tv programs are pub based , sports teams are brewery sponsered , alcohol is available almost eveywhere from railway stations to zoos , the media glamourise drunken bahaviour and tv " stars" often make light of how drunk they where the other night , one drink advert (for example) says people will " belong " and know who their mates are if they drink.
Alcohol causes so much misery to so many people (domestic violence , neglected children , agressive behaviour on our streets , strain on nhs and public workers etc )but the government are
too scared to upset the major breweries because of the money they have and most people know that people like the Murdoch family can make or break any government they like.
Hope that answers your question of
"Or were you just bored and fancied writing something totally irrelevant?".
I'm not sure such a vague comment cold be described as above anyone's threshold, you should have just said this in the first place. I don't necessarily agree but at least we know what your point is now.
