POLICE have named the teenager murdered in Erith at the weekend as 18-year-old Faridon Alizada.
The post-mortem examination, which took place yesterday, gave the cause of death as two stab wounds to the chest.
Mr Alizada who was also known as Fighterrr was a member of the IVS gang.
A murder inquiry was launched after police were called to a reported stabbing incident in a third floor flat in Verona House, Waterhead Close in Erith.
When police arrived at 3am on Saturday they found three youths in their mid to late teens suffering from stab wounds.
One of the youths, Mr Alizada, believed to be from the Woolwich area, was pronounced dead at the scene.
The other two were taken to the Royal London Hospital.
One youth has since been discharged and one remains in hospital in a serious but stable condition.
A police spokesman said: "We are investigating the circumstances of the incident and retain an open mind regarding the motive.
"We believe the incident happened following an altercation with a suspect or suspects who then left the flat."
Two men aged 31 and 41 have been arrested in connection with the incident and are currently being questioned at a south London police station.
Anyone with information should contact Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111
7:26am Monday 7th January 2008
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CommentPosted by: CA, Orpington on 8:33am Mon 7 Jan 08
Am I/are we supposed to know what the IVS gang stands for? For the moment, I'm considering myself lucky I don't
Am I/are we supposed to know what the IVS gang stands for? For the moment, I'm considering myself lucky I don't
Posted by: Here, SE2 on 9:25am Mon 7 Jan 08
There's only one gang in Bexley that's well known, if he was in a 'gang' they aint anything worth reading about.
The guy was an arsehole looking at his youtube.com vids, obviously thought he was something he wasn't like alot of kids these days.
Dunno why people let themselves get dragged into situations like this.
There's only one gang in Bexley that's well known, if he was in a 'gang' they aint anything worth reading about.
The guy was an arsehole looking at his youtube.com vids, obviously thought he was something he wasn't like alot of kids these days.
Dunno why people let themselves get dragged into situations like this.
Posted by: anon, anon on 9:51am Mon 7 Jan 08
'fighterrr' as far i'm aware actually came from woolwich, what exactly was he doing at larner road at 3 in the morning anyway? regardless, no family should have to deal with the loss of a child, it's them i feel sorry for.
'fighterrr' as far i'm aware actually came from woolwich, what exactly was he doing at larner road at 3 in the morning anyway? regardless, no family should have to deal with the loss of a child, it's them i feel sorry for.
Posted by: Mick, Chatham on 10:01am Mon 7 Jan 08
Just watched some of his you tube videos (fighterrr) what a complete loser 18 years old going on 10 bring back the birch for scum like this never be anything other than a drain on resourses.
Just watched some of his you tube videos (fighterrr) what a complete loser 18 years old going on 10 bring back the birch for scum like this never be anything other than a drain on resourses.
Posted by: ABBEY WOOD, SE on 10:42am Mon 7 Jan 08
I have known this boy for 2years and when he first arive from afganistian he was like every other person that is new into the country he had problem with his english and writing but after a while when he started moving with 'BAD BOYS' his life changed and he first got stabed last year in the back before recovring. Every one knew this was coming because he was in the street. Am really sorry for his Father which i know loved him even thought back in school when he gets in troblem the man will be the one to follow him to school. R.I.P FIGHTERR
I have known this boy for 2years and when he first arive from afganistian he was like every other person that is new into the country he had problem with his english and writing but after a while when he started moving with 'BAD BOYS' his life changed and he first got stabed last year in the back before recovring. Every one knew this was coming because he was in the street. Am really sorry for his Father which i know loved him even thought back in school when he gets in troblem the man will be the one to follow him to school. R.I.P FIGHTERR
Posted by: T B, Kent on 10:47am Mon 7 Jan 08
Why would an 18 yr old still be at school - the above post does not make sense and it was reported he was from albania !!!
Why would an 18 yr old still be at school - the above post does not make sense and it was reported he was from albania !!!
Posted by: charlie, kent on 10:48am Mon 7 Jan 08
i na fighterrr woz a nob but e didnt deserve bein killed or did he dis boi used ta go round robbin people n people did say u better watch himself r.i.p fitghtrr
i na fighterrr woz a nob but e didnt deserve bein killed or did he dis boi used ta go round robbin people n people did say u better watch himself r.i.p fitghtrr
Posted by: anon, anon on 10:50am Mon 7 Jan 08
i have watched the videos on you tube, and yes they are distusting and what come saround goes around...just a shame that his parent brought him to this country to help himout and to better for himself, and this is what he does to thank them.
he left afganistan because of the fighting and wars etc, yet he came here and exactly the same - fighting and terrorising the streets. he obviously did what he new best!
he couldnt have been that much of a nice boy if he gained the name 'Fighter' enough said i think.
i have watched the videos on you tube, and yes they are distusting and what come saround goes around...just a shame that his parent brought him to this country to help himout and to better for himself, and this is what he does to thank them.
he left afganistan because of the fighting and wars etc, yet he came here and exactly the same - fighting and terrorising the streets. he obviously did what he new best!
he couldnt have been that much of a nice boy if he gained the name 'Fighter' enough said i think.
Posted by: anon, anon on 11:01am Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]T B[/bold] wrote:
Why would an 18 yr old still be at school - the above post does not make sense and it was reported he was from albania !!! [/quote] he may have only turnt 18, and probably went to 6th form. therefore it make sense as to why he was still at school! dont be so quick to judge.
T B wrote:
Why would an 18 yr old still be at school - the above post does not make sense and it was reported he was from albania !!!
he may have only turnt 18, and probably went to 6th form. therefore it make sense as to why he was still at school! dont be so quick to judge.
Posted by: anon, anon on 11:03am Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]T B[/bold] wrote:
Why would an 18 yr old still be at school - the above post does not make sense and it was reported he was from albania !!! [/quote] why does it matter where he came from and why didnt the above post make any sense??
he could have only recently turnt 18 and could have been in 6th form, therefore makes every sense as to why he was still at school. dont be so quick to judge!
T B wrote:
Why would an 18 yr old still be at school - the above post does not make sense and it was reported he was from albania !!!
why does it matter where he came from and why didnt the above post make any sense??
he could have only recently turnt 18 and could have been in 6th form, therefore makes every sense as to why he was still at school. dont be so quick to judge!
Posted by: T B, Kent on 11:17am Mon 7 Jan 08
I was not judging and why are you posting as anon ?? if he went to college then state that, school is for 5-16 year olds
I was not judging and why are you posting as anon ?? if he went to college then state that, school is for 5-16 year olds
Posted by: Lou on 11:19am Mon 7 Jan 08
Fighter - Known the boy 2 years. What a horrible person he was to. Walked the streets thinking he was a "albanian solider" with hes little crew IVS. Punching random innocent people in the face, chasing groups of boys with knives, he got warned what would happen to him a number of times if he carried on doing what he was doing, as he was a immigrant it didnt go down well with the other "gangs" of the borough. Good riddance to the boy i hope hes family are proud of what they brought up. What goes around comes around. it was only time before he done this to somebody else.
Fighter - Known the boy 2 years. What a horrible person he was to. Walked the streets thinking he was a "albanian solider" with hes little crew IVS. Punching random innocent people in the face, chasing groups of boys with knives, he got warned what would happen to him a number of times if he carried on doing what he was doing, as he was a immigrant it didnt go down well with the other "gangs" of the borough. Good riddance to the boy i hope hes family are proud of what they brought up. What goes around comes around. it was only time before he done this to somebody else.
Posted by: me, Erith on 11:41am Mon 7 Jan 08
[bold]bold[/bold] All said and done at the end of the day a young man lost his life in an tragic attack that in my opinion should never have happened it is all to common these days.I dont think that people should be condeming a boy of this age because he got in with the wrong crowd it could happen to anyone of us. MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF FARIDON ALIZADA MAY HE REST IN PEACE
All said and done at the end of the day a young man lost his life in an tragic attack that in my opinion should never have happened it is all to common these days.I dont think that people should be condeming a boy of this age because he got in with the wrong crowd it could happen to anyone of us. MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF FARIDON ALIZADA MAY HE REST IN PEACE
Posted by: erith resident, erith on 11:52am Mon 7 Jan 08
live by the sword die by the sword they say
live by the sword die by the sword they say
Posted by: s on 11:54am Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]T B[/bold] wrote:
I was not judging and why are you posting as anon ?? if he went to college then state that, school is for 5-16 year olds [/quote] why do i need to state my name - i see you are not stating yours...
i dont whether he went to college but schools can be for 5 - 18 year olds but you have the choice to leave at 16.
T B wrote:
I was not judging and why are you posting as anon ?? if he went to college then state that, school is for 5-16 year olds
why do i need to state my name - i see you are not stating yours...
i dont whether he went to college but schools can be for 5 - 18 year olds but you have the choice to leave at 16.
Posted by: ME, Kent on 11:54am Mon 7 Jan 08
If it happened in Erith...the victim probably fell on the knife. Wouldn't have been the attackers fault in any way, shape or form!
If it happened in Erith...the victim probably fell on the knife. Wouldn't have been the attackers fault in any way, shape or form!
Posted by: Tracey, Plumstead on 12:07pm Mon 7 Jan 08
So the bottom line is that he was the leader of the IVS ? that went around giving it the big one and treatening groups of boys and trying to intimidate them ?
So can we presume that they picked on the wrong group this time ??
Sadly a Boy has lost his life but if some of the rumours are true that he carried a blade surely this has not come as a surprise to the rest of IVS
So the bottom line is that he was the leader of the IVS ? that went around giving it the big one and treatening groups of boys and trying to intimidate them ?
So can we presume that they picked on the wrong group this time ??
Sadly a Boy has lost his life but if some of the rumours are true that he carried a blade surely this has not come as a surprise to the rest of IVS
Posted by: C, Bexley on 12:09pm Mon 7 Jan 08
No one deserves to get killed but if you play with fire your sure to get burnt.
No one deserves to get killed but if you play with fire your sure to get burnt.
Posted by: J, Bexleyheath on 12:17pm Mon 7 Jan 08
no one has a right to take another persons life regardless of what they have done or how they act, - LOU you sound just as bad as the rest of them with your comments - you should think about someones grieving family and not make unnecessary comments at times like this. It makes me sick to see the lack of respect displayed on this page and i am ashamed that it has coem from members of the community we live in. I dont think you are all perfect and at 18 years old that boy was still learning the way in life, he may have chose the wrong path but he wont get the chance to take the right path as a lot of us do as we grow up. That is the TRAGEDY!RIP
no one has a right to take another persons life regardless of what they have done or how they act, - LOU you sound just as bad as the rest of them with your comments - you should think about someones grieving family and not make unnecessary comments at times like this. It makes me sick to see the lack of respect displayed on this page and i am ashamed that it has coem from members of the community we live in. I dont think you are all perfect and at 18 years old that boy was still learning the way in life, he may have chose the wrong path but he wont get the chance to take the right path as a lot of us do as we grow up. That is the TRAGEDY!RIP
Posted by: jo, lONDON on 12:17pm Mon 7 Jan 08
another scumbag off of our streets. After watching youtube it was only a matter of time before this happened. Rather him than one of our innocent kids, who he was sure to come across and attack. Until the government crack down on this type of person our country will continue to go down the pan. What could he have possible offered that was beneficial to our country?
another scumbag off of our streets. After watching youtube it was only a matter of time before this happened. Rather him than one of our innocent kids, who he was sure to come across and attack. Until the government crack down on this type of person our country will continue to go down the pan. What could he have possible offered that was beneficial to our country?
Posted by: H, SE London on 12:22pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]T B[/bold] wrote:
I was not judging and why are you posting as anon ?? if he went to college then state that, school is for 5-16 year olds [/quote] Some people who post on here are just stupid. Does it matter if he was at school or at college or just working ... he is still dead and his parents have to deal with that. I cant imagine what that must feel like. I just hope they catch the person/people who actually killed him.
T B wrote:
I was not judging and why are you posting as anon ?? if he went to college then state that, school is for 5-16 year olds
Some people who post on here are just stupid. Does it matter if he was at school or at college or just working ... he is still dead and his parents have to deal with that. I cant imagine what that must feel like. I just hope they catch the person/people who actually killed him.
Posted by: JoJo on 12:28pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Tracey[/bold] wrote:
So the bottom line is that he was the leader of the IVS ? that went around giving it the big one and treatening groups of boys and trying to intimidate them ? So can we presume that they picked on the wrong group this time ?? Sadly a Boy has lost his life but if some of the rumours are true that he carried a blade surely this has not come as a surprise to the rest of IVS [/quote] no he was not the leader, that "title" goes to a boy called veskk.
they are a horrible group of boys who pick on other kids. they are cruel, nasty and evil boys.
the other 2 who were stabbed are part of the same gang too.
they are known for miles around, everyone knows of the IVS and yes alot of people are frightened of them which is what they want.
sadly this will only now make matters worse and there will be more deaths because they will want to step up there gang and keep there name as a gang to be frightened of.
its all very sad.
Tracey wrote:
So the bottom line is that he was the leader of the IVS ? that went around giving it the big one and treatening groups of boys and trying to intimidate them ? So can we presume that they picked on the wrong group this time ?? Sadly a Boy has lost his life but if some of the rumours are true that he carried a blade surely this has not come as a surprise to the rest of IVS
no he was not the leader, that "title" goes to a boy called veskk.
they are a horrible group of boys who pick on other kids. they are cruel, nasty and evil boys.
the other 2 who were stabbed are part of the same gang too.
they are known for miles around, everyone knows of the IVS and yes alot of people are frightened of them which is what they want.
sadly this will only now make matters worse and there will be more deaths because they will want to step up there gang and keep there name as a gang to be frightened of.
its all very sad.
Posted by: Tasha, Bromley on 12:29pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Doesn't sound like a great loss to me, in fact good riddance to bad rubbish. Harsh but true.
Doesn't sound like a great loss to me, in fact good riddance to bad rubbish. Harsh but true.
Posted by: T B, Kent on 12:30pm Mon 7 Jan 08
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I am sorry but I am not stupid, If you read the post it didnt make sense so I questioned it. If that makes me stupid in your eyes then so be it - God how will I sleep of a night !!!!
Yes sadly he is dead, and hopefully the other members of his IVS group will now realise that this is not the right way to behave and hopefully try to respect other people and not bully them whether they are black or white
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I am sorry but I am not stupid, If you read the post it didnt make sense so I questioned it. If that makes me stupid in your eyes then so be it - God how will I sleep of a night !!!!
Yes sadly he is dead, and hopefully the other members of his IVS group will now realise that this is not the right way to behave and hopefully try to respect other people and not bully them whether they are black or white
Posted by: Lou on 12:54pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]J[/bold] wrote:
no one has a right to take another persons life regardless of what they have done or how they act, - LOU you sound just as bad as the rest of them with your comments - you should think about someones grieving family and not make unnecessary comments at times like this. It makes me sick to see the lack of respect displayed on this page and i am ashamed that it has coem from members of the community we live in. I dont think you are all perfect and at 18 years old that boy was still learning the way in life, he may have chose the wrong path but he wont get the chance to take the right path as a lot of us do as we grow up. That is the TRAGEDY!RIP [/quote] Bad as the rest of them?? The rest of them didnt no him, i did, the rest of them didnt have members of there family held up at knife point by the little rat so dont start telling me i make you sick because to be honest, i dont care how you feel about this topic, its my personal opinion on the matter and i say good riddence.
J wrote:
no one has a right to take another persons life regardless of what they have done or how they act, - LOU you sound just as bad as the rest of them with your comments - you should think about someones grieving family and not make unnecessary comments at times like this. It makes me sick to see the lack of respect displayed on this page and i am ashamed that it has coem from members of the community we live in. I dont think you are all perfect and at 18 years old that boy was still learning the way in life, he may have chose the wrong path but he wont get the chance to take the right path as a lot of us do as we grow up. That is the TRAGEDY!RIP
Bad as the rest of them?? The rest of them didnt no him, i did, the rest of them didnt have members of there family held up at knife point by the little rat so dont start telling me i make you sick because to be honest, i dont care how you feel about this topic, its my personal opinion on the matter and i say good riddence.
Posted by: L, SE London on 12:55pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]CA[/bold] wrote:
Am I/are we supposed to know what the IVS gang stands for? For the moment, I'm considering myself lucky I don't [/quote] IVS stands for InVincible Soldiers.
CA wrote:
Am I/are we supposed to know what the IVS gang stands for? For the moment, I'm considering myself lucky I don't
IVS stands for InVincible Soldiers.
Posted by: School mate, SOUTH EAST on 12:57pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Went to the same school with this boy (ABBEY WOOD SCHOOL) Fight him onces as well in school but this shouldn't happen to him.I even saw him the night he was killed in woolwich which makes it sad. R.I.P we will never for Get you.
Went to the same school with this boy (ABBEY WOOD SCHOOL) Fight him onces as well in school but this shouldn't happen to him.I even saw him the night he was killed in woolwich which makes it sad. R.I.P we will never for Get you.
Posted by: CA, Orpington on 12:59pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]L[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]CA[/bold] wrote: Am I/are we supposed to know what the IVS gang stands for? For the moment, I\'m considering myself lucky I don\'t [/quote] IVS stands for InVincible Soldiers.[/quote] Thanks, just goes to prove no one is InVincible...
L wrote:
CA wrote: Am I/are we supposed to know what the IVS gang stands for? For the moment, I\'m considering myself lucky I don\'t
IVS stands for InVincible Soldiers.
Thanks, just goes to prove no one is InVincible...
Posted by: Wendy, Welling on 1:09pm Mon 7 Jan 08
J if you live in Bexleyheath and have teenagers then you know about this group.
If you have not then, maybe you should stand back and get more information before telling people on here that we make you sick. It is sad that he has died. Even sadder is the fact that the police were aware of this group, but nothing seemed to be done. Fighter was stabbed last year put in hospital and still he and his mindless group continued to harass and bully small groups of teenagers. Until it happens to your own son and his 2 mates it brings home the fact that this gang are scumbags and have to be stopped. Alas this is not going to happen
J if you live in Bexleyheath and have teenagers then you know about this group.
If you have not then, maybe you should stand back and get more information before telling people on here that we make you sick. It is sad that he has died. Even sadder is the fact that the police were aware of this group, but nothing seemed to be done. Fighter was stabbed last year put in hospital and still he and his mindless group continued to harass and bully small groups of teenagers. Until it happens to your own son and his 2 mates it brings home the fact that this gang are scumbags and have to be stopped. Alas this is not going to happen
Posted by: mt on 1:10pm Mon 7 Jan 08
i just looked at you tube....my god i think i understood about 2 words of it, what is he on about ? 2 mins of that and i got a headache. if a growing up today means acting like that....i'm glad im "old" !!
i just looked at you tube....my god i think i understood about 2 words of it, what is he on about ? 2 mins of that and i got a headache. if a growing up today means acting like that....i'm glad im "old" !!
Posted by: erith resident, erith on 1:14pm Mon 7 Jan 08
we should all stand together and petition the local council and mps
we have put up with terrorising teenagers of all race and colour.
punishment must be carried out if they are found out committing a crime
the law can get control again if the jail sentences given were completed 5 years meaning 5 years ,in a jail where you would be expected to work to pay for your keep it will only get worse if nothing is done soon.
we should all stand together and petition the local council and mps
we have put up with terrorising teenagers of all race and colour.
punishment must be carried out if they are found out committing a crime
the law can get control again if the jail sentences given were completed 5 years meaning 5 years ,in a jail where you would be expected to work to pay for your keep it will only get worse if nothing is done soon.
Posted by: Sammy, Bexleyheath on 1:21pm Mon 7 Jan 08
At the end of the day someone has died, so dont sit here and judge or write comment about where he came from and what he was like, if your going to write a comment have some respect, especially for the boys family, he might not of been no angel when he was alive but im sure no-bodys kids are angels. RIP FIGHTER[bold]bold[/bold]
At the end of the day someone has died, so dont sit here and judge or write comment about where he came from and what he was like, if your going to write a comment have some respect, especially for the boys family, he might not of been no angel when he was alive but im sure no-bodys kids are angels. RIP FIGHTER
Posted by: anon, london on 1:31pm Mon 7 Jan 08
i hear some silly people refer to fighter as a soldior.
what a total lack of repect to the real soldiors that are out there fighting for his country so they can have a better way of life.so soldior dont make me laugh.
i hear some silly people refer to fighter as a soldior.
what a total lack of repect to the real soldiors that are out there fighting for his country so they can have a better way of life.so soldior dont make me laugh.
Posted by: jo, London SE2 on 1:32pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Sammy[/bold] wrote:
At the end of the day someone has died, so dont sit here and judge or write comment about where he came from and what he was like, if your going to write a comment have some respect, especially for the boys family, he might not of been no angel when he was alive but im sure no-bodys kids are angels. RIP FIGHTER[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] Come on Sammy, you obviously have not beared the brunt of these gangs unacceptable behaviour yet, maybe once you do you'll have a diferent outlook. Soldiers are respectable men and women, who fight for their Country, but mainly are peacekeepers in other peoples countries. How dare this piece of scum call himself "soldier" he didn't have a clue, if he wanted to be a soldier he should have joined up and gone off and fought for a purpose. The sooner our streets are cleared of these PARASITES maybe we can start to put the GREAT back into Britain. I call him a parasite because you cannot tell me that he was ever going to amount to anything other than a burden on OUR, the tax payers society.
Sammy wrote:
At the end of the day someone has died, so dont sit here and judge or write comment about where he came from and what he was like, if your going to write a comment have some respect, especially for the boys family, he might not of been no angel when he was alive but im sure no-bodys kids are angels. RIP FIGHTER
Come on Sammy, you obviously have not beared the brunt of these gangs unacceptable behaviour yet, maybe once you do you'll have a diferent outlook. Soldiers are respectable men and women, who fight for their Country, but mainly are peacekeepers in other peoples countries. How dare this piece of scum call himself "soldier" he didn't have a clue, if he wanted to be a soldier he should have joined up and gone off and fought for a purpose. The sooner our streets are cleared of these PARASITES maybe we can start to put the GREAT back into Britain. I call him a parasite because you cannot tell me that he was ever going to amount to anything other than a burden on OUR, the tax payers society.
Posted by: b, bexleyheath on 1:34pm Mon 7 Jan 08
i say respect the police
respect the elderly who have fought for us and england
the hard working honest people who struggle to survive in this day and age
respect to those who deserve it
sad but true respect for all of these means nothing to some people nowadays respect a dead gang member who puts fear into others
no i don't think so
i say respect the police
respect the elderly who have fought for us and england
the hard working honest people who struggle to survive in this day and age
respect to those who deserve it
sad but true respect for all of these means nothing to some people nowadays respect a dead gang member who puts fear into others
no i don't think so
Posted by: welling. on 1:35pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Sammy[/bold] wrote:
At the end of the day someone has died, so dont sit here and judge or write comment about where he came from and what he was like, if your going to write a comment have some respect, especially for the boys family, he might not of been no angel when he was alive but im sure no-bodys kids are angels. RIP FIGHTER[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] [bold]bold[/bold] Im sure not everybodies kids go around punching random people in the street in the face and threatning other teenagers on the same bus as him or the same park with knives and nuckle dusters. You people do make me laugh, u was all quick to judge Joe - a lovely kind shy young man when hes car failed and tragically him and the two girls passed away, but when it comes to a scummy little hood rat, that threatens innocent people and caused havok on the streets your all up for doing the righ thing "and givin him respect" why should anyone respect somebody that had no respect for NOBODY but hes "CREW".
Sammy wrote:
At the end of the day someone has died, so dont sit here and judge or write comment about where he came from and what he was like, if your going to write a comment have some respect, especially for the boys family, he might not of been no angel when he was alive but im sure no-bodys kids are angels. RIP FIGHTER
Im sure not everybodies kids go around punching random people in the street in the face and threatning other teenagers on the same bus as him or the same park with knives and nuckle dusters. You people do make me laugh, u was all quick to judge Joe - a lovely kind shy young man when hes car failed and tragically him and the two girls passed away, but when it comes to a scummy little hood rat, that threatens innocent people and caused havok on the streets your all up for doing the righ thing "and givin him respect" why should anyone respect somebody that had no respect for NOBODY but hes "CREW".
Posted by: l on 1:42pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]T B[/bold] wrote:
I was not judging and why are you posting as anon ?? if he went to college then state that, school is for 5-16 year olds [/quote] Actually no it is not! If a child stays at school in years 12 and 13 then they are at school. If they chose to move onto college then they are at college! Obvious really
T B wrote:
I was not judging and why are you posting as anon ?? if he went to college then state that, school is for 5-16 year olds
Actually no it is not! If a child stays at school in years 12 and 13 then they are at school. If they chose to move onto college then they are at college! Obvious really
Posted by: Sammy, Bexleyheath on 1:42pm Mon 7 Jan 08
When did he come on here and call himself a soilder??? He didnt did he, Other people have, And its the terms kids use on the street these days, words can have more then 1 meaning!
And i cant say everyones kids do go up to people and punch them in the face, but have u been there when he has done it?
He has died for god sake, you people slagging a dead person off are just lowering yourself! coming on here writing these message about a person who has died.
When did he come on here and call himself a soilder??? He didnt did he, Other people have, And its the terms kids use on the street these days, words can have more then 1 meaning!
And i cant say everyones kids do go up to people and punch them in the face, but have u been there when he has done it?
He has died for god sake, you people slagging a dead person off are just lowering yourself! coming on here writing these message about a person who has died.
Posted by: Nic, Belvedere on 1:50pm Mon 7 Jan 08
These kids need to learn that respect is earned, its not a god given right. i had a bunch of 15 year old harrassing me on Friday after doing a days work, the reason, i was in my work uniform and not a tatty tracksuit!
These kids need to learn that respect is earned, its not a god given right. i had a bunch of 15 year old harrassing me on Friday after doing a days work, the reason, i was in my work uniform and not a tatty tracksuit!
Posted by: ju, out of erith thank god on 1:52pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Sammy[/bold] wrote:
When did he come on here and call himself a soilder??? He didnt did he, Other people have, And its the terms kids use on the street these days, words can have more then 1 meaning!
And i cant say everyones kids do go up to people and punch them in the face, but have u been there when he has done it?
He has died for god sake, you people slagging a dead person off are just lowering yourself! coming on here writing these message about a person who has died.[/quote] i was not there when he 'done it' but the soldier has left evidence of what he was really like on youtube for all to see! These kids will never learn, i used to live in larner road about 8 years ago and yes verona house is the scumiest of all. My only surprise is this didnt happen sooner
Sammy wrote:
When did he come on here and call himself a soilder??? He didnt did he, Other people have, And its the terms kids use on the street these days, words can have more then 1 meaning!
And i cant say everyones kids do go up to people and punch them in the face, but have u been there when he has done it?
He has died for god sake, you people slagging a dead person off are just lowering yourself! coming on here writing these message about a person who has died.
i was not there when he 'done it' but the soldier has left evidence of what he was really like on youtube for all to see! These kids will never learn, i used to live in larner road about 8 years ago and yes verona house is the scumiest of all. My only surprise is this didnt happen sooner
Posted by: jo, London SE2 on 1:57pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Sammy[/bold] wrote:
When did he come on here and call himself a soilder??? He didnt did he, Other people have, And its the terms kids use on the street these days, words can have more then 1 meaning! And i cant say everyones kids do go up to people and punch them in the face, but have u been there when he has done it? He has died for god sake, you people slagging a dead person off are just lowering yourself! coming on here writing these message about a person who has died.[/quote] Clearly this is a major problem, maybe if these wasters went and actually paid attention at school, they would use and understand the Queens English and it would stop all this stupid street slang and bring a bit more respect back into the community rather than have these idiots walking around flicking their fingers and kissing their lips.
As for his and I quote "poor parents" what about them. Where were they when he was running around terrorising other youths and no doubt vulnerable adults, like the tramp in Bexleyheath, mentioned on his youtube video. Everyone asked this question of the poor grieving parents of Amy Curran and Georgina Fox well come on all of you who asked this question of them, the parents of innocent kids, how about the parents of this scumbag.
Sammy wrote:
When did he come on here and call himself a soilder??? He didnt did he, Other people have, And its the terms kids use on the street these days, words can have more then 1 meaning! And i cant say everyones kids do go up to people and punch them in the face, but have u been there when he has done it? He has died for god sake, you people slagging a dead person off are just lowering yourself! coming on here writing these message about a person who has died.
Clearly this is a major problem, maybe if these wasters went and actually paid attention at school, they would use and understand the Queens English and it would stop all this stupid street slang and bring a bit more respect back into the community rather than have these idiots walking around flicking their fingers and kissing their lips.
As for his and I quote "poor parents" what about them. Where were they when he was running around terrorising other youths and no doubt vulnerable adults, like the tramp in Bexleyheath, mentioned on his youtube video. Everyone asked this question of the poor grieving parents of Amy Curran and Georgina Fox well come on all of you who asked this question of them, the parents of innocent kids, how about the parents of this scumbag.
Posted by: Anon, Erith on 1:57pm Mon 7 Jan 08
y do u all care- he was a horrible nasty boy who terroised the streets- hes 1 less problem 2 deal with!! its not a tragedy he should not have even been in this country! Im sick of this **** it was a drug feud people do not get stabbed at 3am for no reason! I dont even care how his family feel they raised a monster!
y do u all care- he was a horrible nasty boy who terroised the streets- hes 1 less problem 2 deal with!! its not a tragedy he should not have even been in this country! Im sick of this **** it was a drug feud people do not get stabbed at 3am for no reason! I dont even care how his family feel they raised a monster!
Posted by: Sammy, bexleyheath on 2:07pm Mon 7 Jan 08
None of you can say that nobody in your family has done something bad like drugs or fighting! Just let the boy rip!
None of you can say that nobody in your family has done something bad like drugs or fighting! Just let the boy rip!
Posted by: Reggie, islington on 2:15pm Mon 7 Jan 08
After seeing his youtube videos I just felt incredibly sorry for him and all his mates. To be so self unaware is shocking. Hope his friends sort thereselves out and realise how they look.
After seeing his youtube videos I just felt incredibly sorry for him and all his mates. To be so self unaware is shocking. Hope his friends sort thereselves out and realise how they look.
Posted by: a, se7 on 2:16pm Mon 7 Jan 08
why even talk about this. he didnt care for no1 only cared of himself he was gunna get it coming to him sooner or later its nufing
why even talk about this. he didnt care for no1 only cared of himself he was gunna get it coming to him sooner or later its nufing
Posted by: welling on 2:22pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Sammy[/bold] wrote:
When did he come on here and call himself a soilder??? He didnt did he, Other people have, And its the terms kids use on the street these days, words can have more then 1 meaning! And i cant say everyones kids do go up to people and punch them in the face, but have u been there when he has done it? He has died for god sake, you people slagging a dead person off are just lowering yourself! coming on here writing these message about a person who has died.[/quote] Yes i have been there when hes done it, thats how i can comment on this. Unlike most ppl on here i did no him. He did "call himself a solider" before you start trying to make us feel bad for our opinions on him maybe you should look a little deeper into things because i think someone that knew the real "fighter" knew exactly what he was like. A evil child
Sammy wrote:
When did he come on here and call himself a soilder??? He didnt did he, Other people have, And its the terms kids use on the street these days, words can have more then 1 meaning! And i cant say everyones kids do go up to people and punch them in the face, but have u been there when he has done it? He has died for god sake, you people slagging a dead person off are just lowering yourself! coming on here writing these message about a person who has died.
Yes i have been there when hes done it, thats how i can comment on this. Unlike most ppl on here i did no him. He did "call himself a solider" before you start trying to make us feel bad for our opinions on him maybe you should look a little deeper into things because i think someone that knew the real "fighter" knew exactly what he was like. A evil child
Posted by: Sammy on 2:27pm Mon 7 Jan 08
I did know him! cant say i was a big fan of him! but still im not going to sit here and write horrible things about a person who has died! i got resepct for people dead or alive, he might not of had respect for people, but going down to the same level is just pointless!
I did know him! cant say i was a big fan of him! but still im not going to sit here and write horrible things about a person who has died! i got resepct for people dead or alive, he might not of had respect for people, but going down to the same level is just pointless!
Posted by: Sammy on 2:27pm Mon 7 Jan 08
I did know him! cant say i was a big fan of him! but still im not going to sit here and write horrible things about a person who has died! i got resepct for people dead or alive, he might not of had respect for people, but going down to the same level is just pointless!
I did know him! cant say i was a big fan of him! but still im not going to sit here and write horrible things about a person who has died! i got resepct for people dead or alive, he might not of had respect for people, but going down to the same level is just pointless!
Posted by: Welling on 2:32pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Never mind sammy everyone is different and has different opinions if we all thought the same wouldnt life be boring. RIP JOE x
Never mind sammy everyone is different and has different opinions if we all thought the same wouldnt life be boring. RIP JOE x
Posted by: j, Bexleyheath on 2:55pm Mon 7 Jan 08
I have a heart and know that if that was my son who had been killed - regardless of what he has done in his past i wouldnt want to be reading all these negative comments about him.I feel for his family because as you are all obviously aware - peoples families are also innocent victims in the terrible society we now live in. I didnt know him so i cant comment on what he did or didnt do, i am more worried that there are other people out there - living, that have stabbed three boys and think we should be more worried about what they - the living are capable of doing than what the dead have done in their lives.
I have a heart and know that if that was my son who had been killed - regardless of what he has done in his past i wouldnt want to be reading all these negative comments about him.I feel for his family because as you are all obviously aware - peoples families are also innocent victims in the terrible society we now live in. I didnt know him so i cant comment on what he did or didnt do, i am more worried that there are other people out there - living, that have stabbed three boys and think we should be more worried about what they - the living are capable of doing than what the dead have done in their lives.
Posted by: Afghan, London on 2:57pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Sammy[/bold] wrote:
I did know him! cant say i was a big fan of him! but still im not going to sit here and write horrible things about a person who has died! i got resepct for people dead or alive, he might not of had respect for people, but going down to the same level is just pointless![/quote] Just wanted to clear up where this boy was from? Im a member of the Afghan Society in London..if the boy was Afghan..we would like to know so that the message can go round to all Afghan families, who also have children misbehaving like this. Im sure this was a one of case. I think the local communities need to do something about setting up more activites for kids his age to do, then to go round picking fights with people.
Sammy wrote:
I did know him! cant say i was a big fan of him! but still im not going to sit here and write horrible things about a person who has died! i got resepct for people dead or alive, he might not of had respect for people, but going down to the same level is just pointless!
Just wanted to clear up where this boy was from? Im a member of the Afghan Society in London..if the boy was Afghan..we would like to know so that the message can go round to all Afghan families, who also have children misbehaving like this. Im sure this was a one of case. I think the local communities need to do something about setting up more activites for kids his age to do, then to go round picking fights with people.
Posted by: EST, SE London on 3:04pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Sammy[/bold] wrote:
I did know him! cant say i was a big fan of him! but still im not going to sit here and write horrible things about a person who has died! i got resepct for people dead or alive, he might not of had respect for people, but going down to the same level is just pointless![/quote] If you don't like it [bold]don't READ IT!! [/bold] It's not just writting horrible things about
[bold]FIGHTTTTTERRRRR[/bold] but the [bold]GANG IVS.[/bold]
Sammy wrote:
I did know him! cant say i was a big fan of him! but still im not going to sit here and write horrible things about a person who has died! i got resepct for people dead or alive, he might not of had respect for people, but going down to the same level is just pointless!
If you don't like it
don't READ IT!! It's not just writting horrible things about
FIGHTTTTTERRRRR but the
GANG IVS. Posted by: Sammy, Bexleyheath on 3:08pm Mon 7 Jan 08
I am 17 and no i am not one of those stupid litte girls egging people on! I work for the council so i have better n bigger things to do then egg on people fighting!
Everytime someone that is not enlgish or white dies, all people go on about its tax payers money, it doesnt matter where he was from or the colour of his skin, it is not just foreign people that commit crimes in this country, what about the boys that stoned that man to death in erith they was all white? if you cant show nay respect for a dead person, wether he is white black good or bad then dont come on here at all saying aload of **** to make u feel better.
I am 17 and no i am not one of those stupid litte girls egging people on! I work for the council so i have better n bigger things to do then egg on people fighting!
Everytime someone that is not enlgish or white dies, all people go on about its tax payers money, it doesnt matter where he was from or the colour of his skin, it is not just foreign people that commit crimes in this country, what about the boys that stoned that man to death in erith they was all white? if you cant show nay respect for a dead person, wether he is white black good or bad then dont come on here at all saying aload of **** to make u feel better.
Posted by: Stig, London on 3:13pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Sammy[/bold] wrote:
I am 17 and no i am not one of those stupid litte girls egging people on! I work for the council so i have better n bigger things to do then egg on people fighting! Everytime someone that is not enlgish or white dies, all people go on about its tax payers money, it doesnt matter where he was from or the colour of his skin, it is not just foreign people that commit crimes in this country, what about the boys that stoned that man to death in erith they was all white? if you cant show nay respect for a dead person, wether he is white black good or bad then dont come on here at all saying aload of **** to make u feel better.[/quote] Sorry Sammy but similar comments were made about the boys that stoned the oor man to death. The fact that tax payers money was wasted if they were always going to let them go. Go have a look at the article. People were disgusted just like they are talking here.
Oh if you are at work then please get back to work as you are wasting tax payers money sitting on the Internet all day and not working.
Sammy wrote:
I am 17 and no i am not one of those stupid litte girls egging people on! I work for the council so i have better n bigger things to do then egg on people fighting! Everytime someone that is not enlgish or white dies, all people go on about its tax payers money, it doesnt matter where he was from or the colour of his skin, it is not just foreign people that commit crimes in this country, what about the boys that stoned that man to death in erith they was all white? if you cant show nay respect for a dead person, wether he is white black good or bad then dont come on here at all saying aload of **** to make u feel better.
Sorry Sammy but similar comments were made about the boys that stoned the oor man to death. The fact that tax payers money was wasted if they were always going to let them go. Go have a look at the article. People were disgusted just like they are talking here.
Oh if you are at work then please get back to work as you are wasting tax payers money sitting on the Internet all day and not working.
Posted by: pink, dartford on 3:19pm Mon 7 Jan 08
have just watched his videos on youtube, no wonder he was liked by so many people in eirth, such a lovley boy NOT hope this teaches other kids that knives/guns dont make you look hard they just make you look stupid
have just watched his videos on youtube, no wonder he was liked by so many people in eirth, such a lovley boy NOT hope this teaches other kids that knives/guns dont make you look hard they just make you look stupid
Posted by: Sammy, Bexleyheath on 3:21pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Stig??
Its called a well earned day off!!
Stig??
Its called a well earned day off!!
Posted by: Anon, Dartford on 3:32pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Karen
first of all you didnt know the boy so who are you to bad mouth him??
the boy was part of a big group of friends that got the title "gang" by sad people like yourself who have no idea what is going on around them.
He turned 18 just 6 days ago and had his life cruelly taken away from him by bullies.
the boy never bullied any1 in his life and was actually a quiet person.
As for go back to his own country?? i think that has been said too many times and i dont know if you have noticed but it isnt working. nobodys going anywhere so i suggest you shut up and stop talking rubbish
R.I.P Fighter
another victim of the harsh streets of britain.
Great Brittania i think not
Karen
first of all you didnt know the boy so who are you to bad mouth him??
the boy was part of a big group of friends that got the title "gang" by sad people like yourself who have no idea what is going on around them.
He turned 18 just 6 days ago and had his life cruelly taken away from him by bullies.
the boy never bullied any1 in his life and was actually a quiet person.
As for go back to his own country?? i think that has been said too many times and i dont know if you have noticed but it isnt working. nobodys going anywhere so i suggest you shut up and stop talking rubbish
R.I.P Fighter
another victim of the harsh streets of britain.
Great Brittania i think not
Posted by: ... on 3:36pm Mon 7 Jan 08
The parents of this boy obviously feel bad enough without people writing for everyone to see that their son was a bad person. Let them remember their son the way he left them. R.I.P
The parents of this boy obviously feel bad enough without people writing for everyone to see that their son was a bad person. Let them remember their son the way he left them. R.I.P
Posted by: M Lee, bexleyheath on 3:45pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote]SHUT UPPP...im sorry but if your country i.e the so called "Great Britain" and the rest of the stupid west had helped the boys country out in the first place...i dont think any1 would want to come and live here! have you seen your people? all they do is get highs off drinkin alcohol and eating doner kebabs...[/quote]
You're right of course. We should have left the TALIBAN to deal with people like this. What do you think his punishment would have been?
Still there's always the enlightened Saudi Arabia regime left if you don't like it here.
SHUT UPPP...im sorry but if your country i.e the so called "Great Britain" and the rest of the stupid west had helped the boys country out in the first place...i dont think any1 would want to come and live here! have you seen your people? all they do is get highs off drinkin alcohol and eating doner kebabs...
You're right of course. We should have left the TALIBAN to deal with people like this. What do you think his punishment would have been?
Still there's always the enlightened Saudi Arabia regime left if you don't like it here.
Posted by: kl on 3:45pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Why are you using this page to moan about taxes and stuff like that. stop wasting your time telling us and tell someone who can help you. this boy is dead, hes had the worst punishment
Why are you using this page to moan about taxes and stuff like that. stop wasting your time telling us and tell someone who can help you. this boy is dead, hes had the worst punishment
Posted by: DANIELLE&SABRINA, blackfen on 3:48pm Mon 7 Jan 08
your all talkin about FRAIDON his been murdered and your all still thinking about all the bad things rather than the positive things..have a heart like u havent ever done anything wrong. fighter would have done anythihng for his friends and family. he had many people which hated him and them people are takin his death as an opportunity to make things harder than they all ready are. if fighter was such a nasty person why did he have friends that cared for him? he had to of been doing something right.he will be missed and never forgotton. people need to stop making him out to be like a boy that everyone wanted to kill :S coz that aint how it was.. he didnt live in bexley & everyone that knows him knows that he would b **** for people thinkin he lives in bexley either and the picture he would laugh. everyone needs to stop thinkin of the bad things and start thinking of the good things he did.. let him rest in peace! stop being childish. oo yh and the boy aint from albania :S..i dunoo where dat came from.. his half arabian and half afgan..
[bold]bold[/bold] REST IN PEACE [italic]italic[/italic] FRAIDON (F)
your all talkin about FRAIDON his been murdered and your all still thinking about all the bad things rather than the positive things..have a heart like u havent ever done anything wrong. fighter would have done anythihng for his friends and family. he had many people which hated him and them people are takin his death as an opportunity to make things harder than they all ready are. if fighter was such a nasty person why did he have friends that cared for him? he had to of been doing something right.he will be missed and never forgotton. people need to stop making him out to be like a boy that everyone wanted to kill :S coz that aint how it was.. he didnt live in bexley & everyone that knows him knows that he would b **** for people thinkin he lives in bexley either and the picture he would laugh. everyone needs to stop thinkin of the bad things and start thinking of the good things he did.. let him rest in peace! stop being childish. oo yh and the boy aint from albania :S..i dunoo where dat came from.. his half arabian and half afgan..
REST IN PEACE FRAIDON (F)
Posted by: louie, south on 3:49pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
Karen first of all you didnt know the boy so who are you to bad mouth him?? the boy was part of a big group of friends that got the title "gang" by sad people like yourself who have no idea what is going on around them. He turned 18 just 6 days ago and had his life cruelly taken away from him by bullies. the boy never bullied any1 in his life and was actually a quiet person. As for go back to his own country?? i think that has been said too many times and i dont know if you have noticed but it isnt working. nobodys going anywhere so i suggest you shut up and stop talking rubbish R.I.P Fighter another victim of the harsh streets of britain. Great Brittania i think not[/quote] oh please - wake up!!!
he was not in a gang?? have u been on you tube and typed in IVS - IVS was the name of his gang!!
as for he never bullied no 1 and was a quiet person - look on you tube, his there out terrorising people. he was known for attacking helpless teenagers in the street. yes i no this for a fact as i have seen it!!
you call him a victim - he was only a victim of his own violence!
Anon wrote:
Karen first of all you didnt know the boy so who are you to bad mouth him?? the boy was part of a big group of friends that got the title "gang" by sad people like yourself who have no idea what is going on around them. He turned 18 just 6 days ago and had his life cruelly taken away from him by bullies. the boy never bullied any1 in his life and was actually a quiet person. As for go back to his own country?? i think that has been said too many times and i dont know if you have noticed but it isnt working. nobodys going anywhere so i suggest you shut up and stop talking rubbish R.I.P Fighter another victim of the harsh streets of britain. Great Brittania i think not
oh please - wake up!!!
he was not in a gang?? have u been on you tube and typed in IVS - IVS was the name of his gang!!
as for he never bullied no 1 and was a quiet person - look on you tube, his there out terrorising people. he was known for attacking helpless teenagers in the street. yes i no this for a fact as i have seen it!!
you call him a victim - he was only a victim of his own violence!
Posted by: M Lee, bexleyheath on 3:53pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote]
As for go back to his own country?? i think that has been said too many times and i dont know if you have noticed but it isnt working. nobodys going anywhere so i suggest you shut up and stop talking rubbish[/quote]
So why stay in a country you obviously hate?
As for go back to his own country?? i think that has been said too many times and i dont know if you have noticed but it isnt working. nobodys going anywhere so i suggest you shut up and stop talking rubbish
So why stay in a country you obviously hate?
Posted by: karen, abbey wood on 3:55pm Mon 7 Jan 08
message to anon dartford
I think you should go on you tube and see him on there, Quite boy i think not and these clips are over a period of months and he still came across the same, cocky, ignorant a WANNA BE, murdered by bullies, no the same SH** as what he was. but if he WAS innocent then rip, but i doubt it.
message to sammy
I do make you right about the erith boys with the stoning, was terrible, and at their age as well, but i have said there is good and bad in all.
message to anon dartford
I think you should go on you tube and see him on there, Quite boy i think not and these clips are over a period of months and he still came across the same, cocky, ignorant a WANNA BE, murdered by bullies, no the same SH** as what he was. but if he WAS innocent then rip, but i doubt it.
message to sammy
I do make you right about the erith boys with the stoning, was terrible, and at their age as well, but i have said there is good and bad in all.
Posted by: JT, London on 3:56pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
Karen first of all you didnt know the boy so who are you to bad mouth him?? the boy was part of a big group of friends that got the title \"gang\" by sad people like yourself who have no idea what is going on around them. He turned 18 just 6 days ago and had his life cruelly taken away from him by bullies. the boy never bullied any1 in his life and was actually a quiet person. As for go back to his own country?? i think that has been said too many times and i dont know if you have noticed but it isnt working. nobodys going anywhere so i suggest you shut up and stop talking rubbish R.I.P Fighter another victim of the harsh streets of britain. Great Brittania i think not[/quote] QUIET BOY!! Have you looked on You Tube?
http://www.youtube.c
om/results?search_qu
ery=Fighterrr
Yeah he was a really quiet boy wasn't he! Never bullied anyone? Again look on You Tube at the the boy you call a quiet person.
Quiet boy again look on You Tube....making people's life uncomfortable on a bus with the bad mouthing!!
Give up with trying to make him look good. Sad thing is he died looking bad before he could make himself look good and a change to his life. Hopefully this will make others of IVS (that is a gang isn't it!!??) think twice about their actions and keep themselves safe.
Anon wrote:
Karen first of all you didnt know the boy so who are you to bad mouth him?? the boy was part of a big group of friends that got the title \"gang\" by sad people like yourself who have no idea what is going on around them. He turned 18 just 6 days ago and had his life cruelly taken away from him by bullies. the boy never bullied any1 in his life and was actually a quiet person. As for go back to his own country?? i think that has been said too many times and i dont know if you have noticed but it isnt working. nobodys going anywhere so i suggest you shut up and stop talking rubbish R.I.P Fighter another victim of the harsh streets of britain. Great Brittania i think not
QUIET BOY!! Have you looked on You Tube?
http://www.youtube.c
om/results?search_qu
ery=Fighterrr
Yeah he was a really quiet boy wasn't he! Never bullied anyone? Again look on You Tube at the the boy you call a quiet person.
Quiet boy again look on You Tube....making people's life uncomfortable on a bus with the bad mouthing!!
Give up with trying to make him look good. Sad thing is he died looking bad before he could make himself look good and a change to his life. Hopefully this will make others of IVS (that is a gang isn't it!!??) think twice about their actions and keep themselves safe.
Posted by: Bill, Welling on 4:07pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Does IVS stand for Immature Vain Scumbags as that neatly describes these people who blame everyone else but themselves for their lack of opportunity and think that if they call themselves soldiers and pretend that they are fighting a war against society which they think has done them wrong that they will somehow be glorified and it will make up for their diappointments and inadqequacies in life like lack of education and social etiquettewhile young girls swoon at their feet, somehow finding this vile compensation for sexual, educational and social failing mysteriously alluring and attractive.
Does IVS stand for Immature Vain Scumbags as that neatly describes these people who blame everyone else but themselves for their lack of opportunity and think that if they call themselves soldiers and pretend that they are fighting a war against society which they think has done them wrong that they will somehow be glorified and it will make up for their diappointments and inadqequacies in life like lack of education and social etiquettewhile young girls swoon at their feet, somehow finding this vile compensation for sexual, educational and social failing mysteriously alluring and attractive.
Posted by: Five Arches, Sidcup on 4:12pm Mon 7 Jan 08
All his friends keep mentioning the good things he had done could we please have some examples???
All his friends keep mentioning the good things he had done could we please have some examples???
Posted by: Ian, Cray on 4:13pm Mon 7 Jan 08
send the IVS up Star Lane - see how long they last with their ghetto style.
send the IVS up Star Lane - see how long they last with their ghetto style.
Posted by: souf east, woolwich on 4:28pm Mon 7 Jan 08
r.i.p fighter...shooters hill college. brapp brapp...y dont every1 chattin **** go sayit 2 his bois...ne1 can chat **** frm behind a screen.
r.i.p fighter...shooters hill college. brapp brapp...y dont every1 chattin **** go sayit 2 his bois...ne1 can chat **** frm behind a screen.
Posted by: L, Thamesmead on 4:36pm Mon 7 Jan 08
"souf east" you have got to be kidding me!!
Agree with 5 Arches lets hear some examples of good things from this little mug!
I have heard such crap on here - the boy was a trouble maker, a bully by all accounts - what goes around comes around.
"souf east" you have got to be kidding me!!
Agree with 5 Arches lets hear some examples of good things from this little mug!
I have heard such crap on here - the boy was a trouble maker, a bully by all accounts - what goes around comes around.
Posted by: Bill, Welling on 4:46pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Can someone who is in one of these gangs or closetoone explain exactly what it is they are fighting against, why do they see themselves as havinbg tobecomesoldiers and go to warand what the eventual aim would be and what woudl bring about an armastice. Perhaps then we can all better understand.
Can someone who is in one of these gangs or closetoone explain exactly what it is they are fighting against, why do they see themselves as havinbg tobecomesoldiers and go to warand what the eventual aim would be and what woudl bring about an armastice. Perhaps then we can all better understand.
Posted by: anon, se18 on 4:47pm Mon 7 Jan 08
after watching your videos on you tube I'd like to shake the hand of your killer scum like you deserve to die.
after watching your videos on you tube I'd like to shake the hand of your killer scum like you deserve to die.
Posted by: star lane resident, cray on 4:59pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Ian[/bold] wrote:
send the IVS up Star Lane - see how long they last with their ghetto style.[/quote] thank you very much...bring up my road and i can ssure you they wouldnt last 5 minutes...fite with ur fists not with weapons!!
Ian wrote:
send the IVS up Star Lane - see how long they last with their ghetto style.
thank you very much...bring up my road and i can ssure you they wouldnt last 5 minutes...fite with ur fists not with weapons!!
Posted by: Bob.., Welling Kent on 5:01pm Mon 7 Jan 08
RestInPeaceFighter..
.(F)
RestInPeaceFighter..
.(F)
Posted by: good riddance on 5:09pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Fighter my **** - serves him right. Obviously, he was not as tough as he thought he was!
Lets hope other so called "gang members" share a similar fate and that their parents are also punished for letting their kids behave in such a way.
You make me sick...
Fighter my **** - serves him right. Obviously, he was not as tough as he thought he was!
Lets hope other so called "gang members" share a similar fate and that their parents are also punished for letting their kids behave in such a way.
You make me sick...
Posted by: L, SE London on 5:12pm Mon 7 Jan 08
wow no-one really cares do they? RIP darlin x
wow no-one really cares do they? RIP darlin x
Posted by: Yeliz, s.e on 5:15pm Mon 7 Jan 08
I dont no how you can sit there and write horrible things about fraidonn it makes me ill just readin itt.. you OBVIOUSLY didnt no himm and those of u that are saying u do r just chatin **** because he was one of the nicestt and funniest boys i have ever met and im so glad i new him he was just jokes to be around i dont think i can say one bad thing about him.. Yeah im not gonna lie i used to be IVS there nothing like wot u make them out to bee we was like a family we never went out looking for trouble we went out to have a good time. these last two years ive nown them have been the best two years of my life so far and i will never forget the memoriess we had to gether. i used to be with fighter quite alot last year and i never ever seen him punch anyone! yeah he might of givd it the mouth but thats what boys do these days, whenever i had trouble he would allways sort it out for mee and il always remember that.. il miss his wierd fone callss and il never forget the first time i met him or the last timee i was with him
:( .. i cant believe hes gone and nothing will be the same without him x Rest in peacee Fighterrrrr x
ivs x[bold]bold[/bold]
I dont no how you can sit there and write horrible things about fraidonn it makes me ill just readin itt.. you OBVIOUSLY didnt no himm and those of u that are saying u do r just chatin **** because he was one of the nicestt and funniest boys i have ever met and im so glad i new him he was just jokes to be around i dont think i can say one bad thing about him.. Yeah im not gonna lie i used to be IVS there nothing like wot u make them out to bee we was like a family we never went out looking for trouble we went out to have a good time. these last two years ive nown them have been the best two years of my life so far and i will never forget the memoriess we had to gether. i used to be with fighter quite alot last year and i never ever seen him punch anyone! yeah he might of givd it the mouth but thats what boys do these days, whenever i had trouble he would allways sort it out for mee and il always remember that.. il miss his wierd fone callss and il never forget the first time i met him or the last timee i was with him
:( .. i cant believe hes gone and nothing will be the same without him x Rest in peacee Fighterrrrr x
ivs x
Posted by: Bartdude, Erith on 5:20pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Never knew the kid and maybe the west did corrupt him after we gave him and his family a chance of a new life but remember no one person is all good or all bad, clearly he was young and immature and bought into the plastic gangster lifestyle and lets hope that his death will be a lesson learnt to others engrossed in this plainly fake gang culture. The big boys play for keeps and hit harder, apart from his close family and friends I doubt if anyone will miss him and let's face it we did not lose a cure for cancer here, but I say he was someone's son, someone's boyfriend and someone's mate so let the lad rest in peace now and hope that some good comes from his untimely death.
Never knew the kid and maybe the west did corrupt him after we gave him and his family a chance of a new life but remember no one person is all good or all bad, clearly he was young and immature and bought into the plastic gangster lifestyle and lets hope that his death will be a lesson learnt to others engrossed in this plainly fake gang culture. The big boys play for keeps and hit harder, apart from his close family and friends I doubt if anyone will miss him and let's face it we did not lose a cure for cancer here, but I say he was someone's son, someone's boyfriend and someone's mate so let the lad rest in peace now and hope that some good comes from his untimely death.
Posted by: john, bermonsey on 5:21pm Mon 7 Jan 08
[quote][bold]souf east[/bold] wrote:
r.i.p fighter...shooters hill college. brapp brapp...y dont every1 chattin **** go sayit 2 his bois...ne1 can chat **** frm behind a screen.[/quote] brapp.....brapp whats that lol you joker i knew a lot of real gangstars blagers and still do they dont talk like babys thow ..they do proper stuff proper money and you wouldnt have any idea .thats gangstar not running around with your jeans hanging round your nees lol and telling every one your bad init it takes a bet more than that..gangstars ha ha ha and as for IVS who cares they dont run nothin and none of thies kids gangs know how to ern proper money so i dont care...
souf east wrote:
r.i.p fighter...shooters hill college. brapp brapp...y dont every1 chattin **** go sayit 2 his bois...ne1 can chat **** frm behind a screen.
brapp.....brapp whats that lol you joker i knew a lot of real gangstars blagers and still do they dont talk like babys thow ..they do proper stuff proper money and you wouldnt have any idea .thats gangstar not running around with your jeans hanging round your nees lol and telling every one your bad init it takes a bet more than that..gangstars ha ha ha and as for IVS who cares they dont run nothin and none of thies kids gangs know how to ern proper money so i dont care...
Posted by: Yeliz, s.e on 5:22pm Mon 7 Jan 08
I dont no how you can sit there and write horrible things about fraidonn it makes me ill just readin itt.. you OBVIOUSLY didnt no himm and those of u that are saying u do r just chatin **** because he was one of the nicestt and funniest boys i have ever met and im so glad i new him he was just jokes to be around i dont think i can say one bad thing about him.. Yeah im not gonna lie i used to be IVS there nothing like wot u make them out to bee we was like a family we never went out looking for trouble we went out to have a good time. these last two years ive nown them have been the best two years of my life so far and i will never forget the memoriess we had to gether. i used to be with fighter quite a
