UPDATE: Man in his 50s dies after falling from Crayford town centre flats

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A man in his 50s died after falling five floors from a block of flats in Crayford town centre yesterday afternoon.

Emergency services were rushed to the scene at the Town Hall flats in Town Hall Square, Crayford Road, at 5pm after the man fell around 45ft.

A London Air Ambulance landed in the Sainsbury's car-park and a spokesman confirmed the person died at the scene despite doctors and paramedics trying to save him.

John Sinfield, 61, helps maintain the flats in his role as a caretaker for Gallions Housing Association.

He told News Shopper: "I didn’t know his name. He was a loner who minded his own business.

"He used to nod and say hello but that was about it.

"He would get in his car, drive in and drive out."

Mr Sinfield says the man suffered from the neurodegenerative genetic disorder Huntington's disease and could often be seen smoking on the balcony of his first floor flat.

He said: "Yesterday afternoon he was sitting out on his patio having a cigarette. I went home about half past three and apparently it happened about 10 past five.

"Obviously something inside him’s gone. I was quite shocked when I found out. I thought to myself: I can’t believe this."

A spokesman for Bexley Police said: "Police, London Ambulance Service, London Fire Brigade and the London Air Ambulance were called to Town Hall Square, Crayford at approximately 5pm on Thursday after reports of a male falling from a fifth floor balcony.

"A male believed to be aged in his late 50s or early 60s was declared deceased at the scene.

"The incident is not being treated as suspicious."

A spokesman for the London Ambulance Service added: "We were called to the scene just before 5pm to reports of a person falling from a height.

"Sadly the man was declared deceased at the scene by the doctor from the air ambulance."

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5:59pm Thu 3 Apr 14

dee2009 says...

Someone jump from the new flats next to Sainsbury's
Someone jump from the new flats next to Sainsbury's dee2009
  • Score: -28

7:41am Fri 4 Apr 14

Sidcup100 says...

Poor man my he RIP . Such a very sad time in life for this poor man and his family .x
Poor man my he RIP . Such a very sad time in life for this poor man and his family .x Sidcup100
  • Score: 56

10:42am Fri 4 Apr 14

dee2009 says...

R.I.P SIR,how sad,my thought are with his family and friends.
R.I.P SIR,how sad,my thought are with his family and friends. dee2009
  • Score: 77

2:35pm Fri 4 Apr 14

sarfflondonbird says...

Such a sad story. Poor fella. RIP.
Cant help but say though, if he was seen regularly smoking a cigarette on his balcony on the first floor, who;s balcony on the fifth floor was he on then?
Such a sad story. Poor fella. RIP. Cant help but say though, if he was seen regularly smoking a cigarette on his balcony on the first floor, who;s balcony on the fifth floor was he on then? sarfflondonbird
  • Score: -1534

8:23pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease says...

SHAME ON YOU NEWSSHOPPER.
I see that you have made this story your headline this week.
Great Story, a real eye catcher .
On 7th March you were invited to cover an event to raise funds and awareness for the Huntington' s Disease Association. You were obviously not interested.
This poor man was suffering from Huntingtons Disease. Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you.
SHAME ON YOU NEWSSHOPPER. I see that you have made this story your headline this week. Great Story, a real eye catcher . On 7th March you were invited to cover an event to raise funds and awareness for the Huntington' s Disease Association. You were obviously not interested. This poor man was suffering from Huntingtons Disease. Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you. Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease
  • Score: 13

9:09pm Fri 4 Apr 14

HDA AWARENESS says...

Such a tragic ending for this poor man suffering from huntingsons disease.
I agree the newshopper should be the eyes and ears for the local community and they should have showed an interest in raising awareness of this horrid disease it may not have prevented this tragic incident however It would educate more people in learning and recognising this disease and maybe this man would have received some help !!!

The newshopper clearly think its more important to run storys about people seeing aliens and being engaged to footballers in a previous life !!!
Such a tragic ending for this poor man suffering from huntingsons disease. I agree the newshopper should be the eyes and ears for the local community and they should have showed an interest in raising awareness of this horrid disease it may not have prevented this tragic incident however It would educate more people in learning and recognising this disease and maybe this man would have received some help !!! The newshopper clearly think its more important to run storys about people seeing aliens and being engaged to footballers in a previous life !!! HDA AWARENESS
  • Score: 6

10:02pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Gypo.Joe says...

@ Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease & HDA AWARENESS, show some respect will you. No one knows for sure what the reasons are for this gentleman's death so don't jump to conclusions and start apportioning blame when you have no idea of all the facts.

May he RIP.
@ Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease & HDA AWARENESS, show some respect will you. No one knows for sure what the reasons are for this gentleman's death so don't jump to conclusions and start apportioning blame when you have no idea of all the facts. May he RIP. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 1249

10:22pm Fri 4 Apr 14

HDA AWARENESS says...

@ gypo joe
1) no one is saying anyone is to blame , just stating its a shame newshopper didn't wish to report and raise awareness of this disease
2) your correct in saying no one knows the facts however if you care to look up the disease and educate yourself maybe you will see that it's quite likely to have contributed to this incident
3) I have plenty of respect for this gentleman , and have plenty of respect for people suffering from this disease which is why I am involved in fundraising
@ gypo joe 1) no one is saying anyone is to blame , just stating its a shame newshopper didn't wish to report and raise awareness of this disease 2) your correct in saying no one knows the facts however if you care to look up the disease and educate yourself maybe you will see that it's quite likely to have contributed to this incident 3) I have plenty of respect for this gentleman , and have plenty of respect for people suffering from this disease which is why I am involved in fundraising HDA AWARENESS
  • Score: 9

10:26pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease says...

Gypo.joe
I have merely made an observation. I have not apportioned blame. However gypo.joe are you aware of just how high the suicide rate is among HD sufferers?
It is unlikely that you do because so little is written about it and like the rest of the press the newsshopper has passed up an opportunity to raise awareness of this devastating disease. Thats why I am angry.
I can tell you that Huntingtons Disease is very isolating, it literally tears families apart. It is known among professionals as "the cruellest disease known to mankind" with a triad of symptoms similar to alzheimers, schizophrenia and motor neurons disease, ALL AT ONCE, so,yes, Gypo joe lets hope he can finally Rest in peace.
Gypo.joe I have merely made an observation. I have not apportioned blame. However gypo.joe are you aware of just how high the suicide rate is among HD sufferers? It is unlikely that you do because so little is written about it and like the rest of the press the newsshopper has passed up an opportunity to raise awareness of this devastating disease. Thats why I am angry. I can tell you that Huntingtons Disease is very isolating, it literally tears families apart. It is known among professionals as "the cruellest disease known to mankind" with a triad of symptoms similar to alzheimers, schizophrenia and motor neurons disease, ALL AT ONCE, so,yes, Gypo joe lets hope he can finally Rest in peace. Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease
  • Score: 7

11:54pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Shorty45 says...

For your readers and reporters who might like to read a little about the dreadful disease that affects over 6,000 individuals and families in England and Wales, read on.

Huntington’s Disease is a hereditary, neurodegenerative disease of the brain. It is a genetic disorder which is caused by an expanded gene in a person's DNA. HD is a condition which affects the nervous system and gradually gets worse. It stops the brain and body from working as well as they used to. The main symptoms are problems with walking and balance, involuntary limb movements, cognitive decline such as memory loss and behavior\psychiatric issues such as depression.

Early in the disease, there are likely to be subtle changes in coordination, perhaps some involuntary movements, difficulty thinking through problems, and often, a depressed or irritable mood. At this stage, medication is often effective in treating movement, depression and other emotional symptoms. The early emotional symptoms may be quite subtle. Individuals may experience more periods of depression, apathy, irritability, or impulsiveness, or perhaps changes in personality. The person diagnosed with HD can, initially, function fully both at home and work.

The initial movement symptoms will gradually develop into more obvious involuntary movements such as jerking and twitching of the head, neck, arms and legs. These movements interfere with walking, speaking and swallowing. People at this stage of Huntington's often look as if they're drunk: they stagger when they walk and their speech is slurred. They have increasing difficulty working or managing a normal lifestyle and need considerable help or supervision to handle routine financial affairs. Thinking and reasoning skills also diminish gradually.

People don’t die from Huntington’s Disease itself but rather from complications caused by the disease, such as choking, pneumonia, heart failure or infection developing from the body's weakened condition. Death generally occurs about 15 to 20 years after its appearance.

To the, as yet, unnamed gentleman who died on Thursday, Rest in Peace.
For your readers and reporters who might like to read a little about the dreadful disease that affects over 6,000 individuals and families in England and Wales, read on. Huntington’s Disease is a hereditary, neurodegenerative disease of the brain. It is a genetic disorder which is caused by an expanded gene in a person's DNA. HD is a condition which affects the nervous system and gradually gets worse. It stops the brain and body from working as well as they used to. The main symptoms are problems with walking and balance, involuntary limb movements, cognitive decline such as memory loss and behavior\psychiatric issues such as depression. Early in the disease, there are likely to be subtle changes in coordination, perhaps some involuntary movements, difficulty thinking through problems, and often, a depressed or irritable mood. At this stage, medication is often effective in treating movement, depression and other emotional symptoms. The early emotional symptoms may be quite subtle. Individuals may experience more periods of depression, apathy, irritability, or impulsiveness, or perhaps changes in personality. The person diagnosed with HD can, initially, function fully both at home and work. The initial movement symptoms will gradually develop into more obvious involuntary movements such as jerking and twitching of the head, neck, arms and legs. These movements interfere with walking, speaking and swallowing. People at this stage of Huntington's often look as if they're drunk: they stagger when they walk and their speech is slurred. They have increasing difficulty working or managing a normal lifestyle and need considerable help or supervision to handle routine financial affairs. Thinking and reasoning skills also diminish gradually. People don’t die from Huntington’s Disease itself but rather from complications caused by the disease, such as choking, pneumonia, heart failure or infection developing from the body's weakened condition. Death generally occurs about 15 to 20 years after its appearance. To the, as yet, unnamed gentleman who died on Thursday, Rest in Peace. Shorty45
  • Score: 22

8:15am Sat 5 Apr 14

HummingbirdBook says...

People who know about HD know that, after pneumonia, suicide is the second most common cause of death in sufferers.

I think it's a terrible shame that the Newspaper did not wish to cover the positive local fundraising events that will help to find a cure and save these peoples lives.
People who know about HD know that, after pneumonia, suicide is the second most common cause of death in sufferers. I think it's a terrible shame that the Newspaper did not wish to cover the positive local fundraising events that will help to find a cure and save these peoples lives. HummingbirdBook
  • Score: 3

11:28am Sat 5 Apr 14

Marty1979 says...

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease wrote:
SHAME ON YOU NEWSSHOPPER.
I see that you have made this story your headline this week.
Great Story, a real eye catcher .
On 7th March you were invited to cover an event to raise funds and awareness for the Huntington' s Disease Association. You were obviously not interested.
This poor man was suffering from Huntingtons Disease. Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you.
So you are inferring that had NS covered a fund raising event then this man would still be alive

I'm sure NS gets asked hundreds of times to cover events, school fetes etc. To the organisers each one is vitally important but how can NS decide which to cover (they couldn't do them all)

To essentially blame this death on NS is grossly unfair
[quote][p][bold]Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease[/bold] wrote: SHAME ON YOU NEWSSHOPPER. I see that you have made this story your headline this week. Great Story, a real eye catcher . On 7th March you were invited to cover an event to raise funds and awareness for the Huntington' s Disease Association. You were obviously not interested. This poor man was suffering from Huntingtons Disease. Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you.[/p][/quote]So you are inferring that had NS covered a fund raising event then this man would still be alive I'm sure NS gets asked hundreds of times to cover events, school fetes etc. To the organisers each one is vitally important but how can NS decide which to cover (they couldn't do them all) To essentially blame this death on NS is grossly unfair Marty1979
  • Score: 5

12:21pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease says...

Marty1979 wrote:
Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease wrote:
SHAME ON YOU NEWSSHOPPER.
I see that you have made this story your headline this week.
Great Story, a real eye catcher .
On 7th March you were invited to cover an event to raise funds and awareness for the Huntington' s Disease Association. You were obviously not interested.
This poor man was suffering from Huntingtons Disease. Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you.
So you are inferring that had NS covered a fund raising event then this man would still be alive

I'm sure NS gets asked hundreds of times to cover events, school fetes etc. To the organisers each one is vitally important but how can NS decide which to cover (they couldn't do them all)

To essentially blame this death on NS is grossly unfair
Marty1979
I refer you to my earlier post , in reply to Gypo.joe.
I hope that you Marty 1979 have taken the time to read all the replies. That way you may get the tiniest insight into this terrible disease . Are you also aware that each child of a sufferer has a 50% chance of inheriting the faulty gene? Those that DO inherit the faulty gene WILL at some point develop the symptoms of the disease for which there is no cure and no effective treatment.
Perhaps you could further educate yourself by looking at the HDA website and reading through the message board and fact sheets, only then will you gain any insight into the horror and devastation this disease causes to sufferers and their families.
My point is that the NS missed an opportunity to raise awareness for Huntington's Disease but were very quick to make a headline from a tragedy involving a sufferer. I hope you understand my anger and frustration.
My thoughts are with the friends and family of this man.
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease[/bold] wrote: SHAME ON YOU NEWSSHOPPER. I see that you have made this story your headline this week. Great Story, a real eye catcher . On 7th March you were invited to cover an event to raise funds and awareness for the Huntington' s Disease Association. You were obviously not interested. This poor man was suffering from Huntingtons Disease. Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you.[/p][/quote]So you are inferring that had NS covered a fund raising event then this man would still be alive I'm sure NS gets asked hundreds of times to cover events, school fetes etc. To the organisers each one is vitally important but how can NS decide which to cover (they couldn't do them all) To essentially blame this death on NS is grossly unfair[/p][/quote]Marty1979 I refer you to my earlier post , in reply to Gypo.joe. I hope that you Marty 1979 have taken the time to read all the replies. That way you may get the tiniest insight into this terrible disease . Are you also aware that each child of a sufferer has a 50% chance of inheriting the faulty gene? Those that DO inherit the faulty gene WILL at some point develop the symptoms of the disease for which there is no cure and no effective treatment. Perhaps you could further educate yourself by looking at the HDA website and reading through the message board and fact sheets, only then will you gain any insight into the horror and devastation this disease causes to sufferers and their families. My point is that the NS missed an opportunity to raise awareness for Huntington's Disease but were very quick to make a headline from a tragedy involving a sufferer. I hope you understand my anger and frustration. My thoughts are with the friends and family of this man. Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease
  • Score: 6

12:50pm Sat 5 Apr 14

reasonable75 says...

Well I've read through the comments

"Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you."

Even if the story had been covered, how would anyone in the flats have known he was a sufferer?

Your comments do suggest that covering a fund raising event it " may have helped to save a life."
Well I've read through the comments "Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you." Even if the story had been covered, how would anyone in the flats have known he was a sufferer? Your comments do suggest that covering a fund raising event it " may have helped to save a life." reasonable75
  • Score: 15

12:52pm Sat 5 Apr 14

reasonable75 says...

And

"My point is that the NS .........were very quick to make a headline from a tragedy involving a sufferer."

How would they know he was a sufferer? They covered this just the same as any other story
And "My point is that the NS .........were very quick to make a headline from a tragedy involving a sufferer." How would they know he was a sufferer? They covered this just the same as any other story reasonable75
  • Score: 13

12:56pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Simon Bull says...

Marty1979 wrote:
Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease wrote:
SHAME ON YOU NEWSSHOPPER.
I see that you have made this story your headline this week.
Great Story, a real eye catcher .
On 7th March you were invited to cover an event to raise funds and awareness for the Huntington' s Disease Association. You were obviously not interested.
This poor man was suffering from Huntingtons Disease. Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you.
So you are inferring that had NS covered a fund raising event then this man would still be alive

I'm sure NS gets asked hundreds of times to cover events, school fetes etc. To the organisers each one is vitally important but how can NS decide which to cover (they couldn't do them all)

To essentially blame this death on NS is grossly unfair
Thank you Marty.

Obviously any death such as this is incredibly sad, and it's also easy to see how it can evoke anger and frustration among those who knew this poor man and those familiar with his reported condition.

However, seeing this report and then making inaccurate and unfounded accusations about News Shopper not supporting charities is wrong and unfair.

We get many, many charity requests every single week and cannot possibly cover the majority of them as news stories never mind all of them. However, we do write numerous charity stories for our website and newspapers. We also try to compensate for not being able to cover everything by providing two free and useful services people can use. One of is events listings at www.newsshopper.co.u
k/events where people can post details of awareness days, fairs etc. the other thing is our Fundraising section at www.newsshopper.co.u
k/fundraising where people can post all their own charity news articles, fundraising appeals and so on.

People are entitled to their opinions but I would suggest they stop to think and consider the various ways we do promote charities' causes before criticising.
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease[/bold] wrote: SHAME ON YOU NEWSSHOPPER. I see that you have made this story your headline this week. Great Story, a real eye catcher . On 7th March you were invited to cover an event to raise funds and awareness for the Huntington' s Disease Association. You were obviously not interested. This poor man was suffering from Huntingtons Disease. Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you.[/p][/quote]So you are inferring that had NS covered a fund raising event then this man would still be alive I'm sure NS gets asked hundreds of times to cover events, school fetes etc. To the organisers each one is vitally important but how can NS decide which to cover (they couldn't do them all) To essentially blame this death on NS is grossly unfair[/p][/quote]Thank you Marty. Obviously any death such as this is incredibly sad, and it's also easy to see how it can evoke anger and frustration among those who knew this poor man and those familiar with his reported condition. However, seeing this report and then making inaccurate and unfounded accusations about News Shopper not supporting charities is wrong and unfair. We get many, many charity requests every single week and cannot possibly cover the majority of them as news stories never mind all of them. However, we do write numerous charity stories for our website and newspapers. We also try to compensate for not being able to cover everything by providing two free and useful services people can use. One of is events listings at www.newsshopper.co.u k/events where people can post details of awareness days, fairs etc. the other thing is our Fundraising section at www.newsshopper.co.u k/fundraising where people can post all their own charity news articles, fundraising appeals and so on. People are entitled to their opinions but I would suggest they stop to think and consider the various ways we do promote charities' causes before criticising. Simon Bull
  • Score: 30

1:00pm Sat 5 Apr 14

sueann1 says...

I knew this man. Everyone is missing the point. It is nobodies fault. He died for reasons only known to him.

Lets just let the man RIP.
I knew this man. Everyone is missing the point. It is nobodies fault. He died for reasons only known to him. Lets just let the man RIP. sueann1
  • Score: 12

1:06pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease says...

It was the caretaker of the flats that told the NS that the man was suffering from HD, so he , at least was aware. And had the NS covered the event
Which was organised raise funds and AWARENESS for the HDA,
Then MAYBE just Maybe someone may have reached out to him, or befriended him or just made a difference to his life.
I am not trying to be smug or clever, this is a human tragedy, one that happens far too often in HD world through lack of awareness, dont shoot me down, help me raise AWARENESS, it saves lives.
It was the caretaker of the flats that told the NS that the man was suffering from HD, so he , at least was aware. And had the NS covered the event Which was organised raise funds and AWARENESS for the HDA, Then MAYBE just Maybe someone may have reached out to him, or befriended him or just made a difference to his life. I am not trying to be smug or clever, this is a human tragedy, one that happens far too often in HD world through lack of awareness, dont shoot me down, help me raise AWARENESS, it saves lives. Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease
  • Score: 6

1:32pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease says...

And please spell the name of the Disease correctly.
Its Huntington's Disease, which is a Neurodegenerative disorder.
My husbands uncle was a sufferer and committed suicide aged 40, my husband and 2 of his 3 sisters have the disease.
And please spell the name of the Disease correctly. Its Huntington's Disease, which is a Neurodegenerative disorder. My husbands uncle was a sufferer and committed suicide aged 40, my husband and 2 of his 3 sisters have the disease. Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease
  • Score: 7

1:33pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease says...

And thier mother died from the disease aged 62.
And thier mother died from the disease aged 62. Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease
  • Score: 7

7:24pm Sat 5 Apr 14

franksutton says...

I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason

To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this

Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments

Perhaps it is shame on you
I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments Perhaps it is shame on you franksutton
  • Score: 8

7:58pm Sat 5 Apr 14

reasonable75 says...

franksutton wrote:
I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason

To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this

Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments

Perhaps it is shame on you
Regretfully I can understand why, and agree with you

If someone running a business starts making wild accusations and insulting people then they are likely to go out of business

Even after the editor of NS explained the reasons they could not cover the event (but said where they could get free publicity) these "official fundraisers" continued to claim this death is because of NS not covering their event

Like Frank Sutton, if I am asked to contribute to this charity then I will refuse
[quote][p][bold]franksutton[/bold] wrote: I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments Perhaps it is shame on you[/p][/quote]Regretfully I can understand why, and agree with you If someone running a business starts making wild accusations and insulting people then they are likely to go out of business Even after the editor of NS explained the reasons they could not cover the event (but said where they could get free publicity) these "official fundraisers" continued to claim this death is because of NS not covering their event Like Frank Sutton, if I am asked to contribute to this charity then I will refuse reasonable75
  • Score: 7

8:56pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease says...

Well shame on you too, you have both hit the nail on the head, you have never heard of Huntington's Disease so you dont care. I refer you to my first answer in which I explain my initial remarks to the NS and ask that you read about the Disease and educate yourselves.
Our consultant at the National Hospital For Neurology And Neurosurgery says and I quote "theres nothing fluffy about HD " which it is why it is ignored.

RIP Crayford HD Man, you are not the first and you certainly wont be the last .
Well shame on you too, you have both hit the nail on the head, you have never heard of Huntington's Disease so you dont care. I refer you to my first answer in which I explain my initial remarks to the NS and ask that you read about the Disease and educate yourselves. Our consultant at the National Hospital For Neurology And Neurosurgery says and I quote "theres nothing fluffy about HD " which it is why it is ignored. RIP Crayford HD Man, you are not the first and you certainly wont be the last . Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease
  • Score: 9

9:04pm Sat 5 Apr 14

reasonable75 says...

I might have cared - but making wild accusations isn't going to help

Try reflecting on what you've claimed
I might have cared - but making wild accusations isn't going to help Try reflecting on what you've claimed reasonable75
  • Score: 6

9:21pm Sat 5 Apr 14

HDA AWARENESS says...

franksutton wrote:
I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason

To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this

Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments

Perhaps it is shame on you
Well how immature is this comment , if you care to read the previous comments you can see that no one is blaming the NS for this death just plainly pointing out that its such a shame that the NS didn't show an interest in the hard work that has been out into fundraising , yes I can fully understand that the newshopper may get many requests to report on charity events however as HD is unfortunately not well known about and it would have been great to have the support of the NS
Again.... I would like to reiterate the NS IS NOT getting the blame for this poor mans tragic death and apologise if it has been portrayed as this .....

I sincerely hope that you do not have to come face to face with this disease ... People have the right to express their opinions and you should respect that .... By saying you will NEVER donate to this charity and tell your friends and family is just cruel !!! If you have never heard of this displease may I suggest that you look this up , you may then understand people's frustrations and emotions towards expressing there opinions
[quote][p][bold]franksutton[/bold] wrote: I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments Perhaps it is shame on you[/p][/quote]Well how immature is this comment , if you care to read the previous comments you can see that no one is blaming the NS for this death just plainly pointing out that its such a shame that the NS didn't show an interest in the hard work that has been out into fundraising , yes I can fully understand that the newshopper may get many requests to report on charity events however as HD is unfortunately not well known about and it would have been great to have the support of the NS Again.... I would like to reiterate the NS IS NOT getting the blame for this poor mans tragic death and apologise if it has been portrayed as this ..... I sincerely hope that you do not have to come face to face with this disease ... People have the right to express their opinions and you should respect that .... By saying you will NEVER donate to this charity and tell your friends and family is just cruel !!! If you have never heard of this displease may I suggest that you look this up , you may then understand people's frustrations and emotions towards expressing there opinions HDA AWARENESS
  • Score: 6

9:22pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Oldchap says...

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease wrote:
Well shame on you too, you have both hit the nail on the head, you have never heard of Huntington's Disease so you dont care. I refer you to my first answer in which I explain my initial remarks to the NS and ask that you read about the Disease and educate yourselves.
Our consultant at the National Hospital For Neurology And Neurosurgery says and I quote "theres nothing fluffy about HD " which it is why it is ignored.

RIP Crayford HD Man, you are not the first and you certainly wont be the last .
I am aware of Huntington's Disease due to someone I worked with having been a sufferer (tragically died some years ago)

But I'm sorry to say your attitude disgusts me

I have just cancelled my direct debit and will be advising HDA why
[quote][p][bold]Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease[/bold] wrote: Well shame on you too, you have both hit the nail on the head, you have never heard of Huntington's Disease so you dont care. I refer you to my first answer in which I explain my initial remarks to the NS and ask that you read about the Disease and educate yourselves. Our consultant at the National Hospital For Neurology And Neurosurgery says and I quote "theres nothing fluffy about HD " which it is why it is ignored. RIP Crayford HD Man, you are not the first and you certainly wont be the last .[/p][/quote]I am aware of Huntington's Disease due to someone I worked with having been a sufferer (tragically died some years ago) But I'm sorry to say your attitude disgusts me I have just cancelled my direct debit and will be advising HDA why Oldchap
  • Score: -2

9:34pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Oldchap says...

HDA AWARENESS wrote:
franksutton wrote:
I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason

To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this

Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments

Perhaps it is shame on you
Well how immature is this comment , if you care to read the previous comments you can see that no one is blaming the NS for this death just plainly pointing out that its such a shame that the NS didn't show an interest in the hard work that has been out into fundraising , yes I can fully understand that the newshopper may get many requests to report on charity events however as HD is unfortunately not well known about and it would have been great to have the support of the NS
Again.... I would like to reiterate the NS IS NOT getting the blame for this poor mans tragic death and apologise if it has been portrayed as this .....

I sincerely hope that you do not have to come face to face with this disease ... People have the right to express their opinions and you should respect that .... By saying you will NEVER donate to this charity and tell your friends and family is just cruel !!! If you have never heard of this displease may I suggest that you look this up , you may then understand people's frustrations and emotions towards expressing there opinions
""Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you."

As stated above, suggestion that if your event or whatever had received publicity this man might be alive

So because it was not covered he's dead - your are blaming Newshopper for the death
[quote][p][bold]HDA AWARENESS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franksutton[/bold] wrote: I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments Perhaps it is shame on you[/p][/quote]Well how immature is this comment , if you care to read the previous comments you can see that no one is blaming the NS for this death just plainly pointing out that its such a shame that the NS didn't show an interest in the hard work that has been out into fundraising , yes I can fully understand that the newshopper may get many requests to report on charity events however as HD is unfortunately not well known about and it would have been great to have the support of the NS Again.... I would like to reiterate the NS IS NOT getting the blame for this poor mans tragic death and apologise if it has been portrayed as this ..... I sincerely hope that you do not have to come face to face with this disease ... People have the right to express their opinions and you should respect that .... By saying you will NEVER donate to this charity and tell your friends and family is just cruel !!! If you have never heard of this displease may I suggest that you look this up , you may then understand people's frustrations and emotions towards expressing there opinions[/p][/quote]""Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you." As stated above, suggestion that if your event or whatever had received publicity this man might be alive So because it was not covered he's dead - your are blaming Newshopper for the death Oldchap
  • Score: 4

9:40pm Sat 5 Apr 14

HDA AWARENESS says...

Oldchap wrote:
HDA AWARENESS wrote:
franksutton wrote:
I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason

To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this

Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments

Perhaps it is shame on you
Well how immature is this comment , if you care to read the previous comments you can see that no one is blaming the NS for this death just plainly pointing out that its such a shame that the NS didn't show an interest in the hard work that has been out into fundraising , yes I can fully understand that the newshopper may get many requests to report on charity events however as HD is unfortunately not well known about and it would have been great to have the support of the NS
Again.... I would like to reiterate the NS IS NOT getting the blame for this poor mans tragic death and apologise if it has been portrayed as this .....

I sincerely hope that you do not have to come face to face with this disease ... People have the right to express their opinions and you should respect that .... By saying you will NEVER donate to this charity and tell your friends and family is just cruel !!! If you have never heard of this displease may I suggest that you look this up , you may then understand people's frustrations and emotions towards expressing there opinions
""Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you."

As stated above, suggestion that if your event or whatever had received publicity this man might be alive

So because it was not covered he's dead - your are blaming Newshopper for the death
Please note I did not make that comment and I'm sure the person who did who has clearly been effected by HD ..... Comments have been made assuring the NS are not to blame ....and appologise for how it had been portrayed however maybe take a minuite to consider the emotions this person has been though and at the end of the day all that its trying to be done is to raise awareness and pay respects to this man
[quote][p][bold]Oldchap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HDA AWARENESS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franksutton[/bold] wrote: I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments Perhaps it is shame on you[/p][/quote]Well how immature is this comment , if you care to read the previous comments you can see that no one is blaming the NS for this death just plainly pointing out that its such a shame that the NS didn't show an interest in the hard work that has been out into fundraising , yes I can fully understand that the newshopper may get many requests to report on charity events however as HD is unfortunately not well known about and it would have been great to have the support of the NS Again.... I would like to reiterate the NS IS NOT getting the blame for this poor mans tragic death and apologise if it has been portrayed as this ..... I sincerely hope that you do not have to come face to face with this disease ... People have the right to express their opinions and you should respect that .... By saying you will NEVER donate to this charity and tell your friends and family is just cruel !!! If you have never heard of this displease may I suggest that you look this up , you may then understand people's frustrations and emotions towards expressing there opinions[/p][/quote]""Had you covered the story perhaps someone locally may have read it an reached out to this wretched chap, not quite such a headline grabber, but just may have helped to save a life. Disgusted by you." As stated above, suggestion that if your event or whatever had received publicity this man might be alive So because it was not covered he's dead - your are blaming Newshopper for the death[/p][/quote]Please note I did not make that comment and I'm sure the person who did who has clearly been effected by HD ..... Comments have been made assuring the NS are not to blame ....and appologise for how it had been portrayed however maybe take a minuite to consider the emotions this person has been though and at the end of the day all that its trying to be done is to raise awareness and pay respects to this man HDA AWARENESS
  • Score: 7

10:27pm Sat 5 Apr 14

summer75 says...

sarfflondonbird wrote:
Such a sad story. Poor fella. RIP.
Cant help but say though, if he was seen regularly smoking a cigarette on his balcony on the first floor, who;s balcony on the fifth floor was he on then?
Actually you "could help but say" and NOT SAY. what business of yours is it as to where he was?
[quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote: Such a sad story. Poor fella. RIP. Cant help but say though, if he was seen regularly smoking a cigarette on his balcony on the first floor, who;s balcony on the fifth floor was he on then?[/p][/quote]Actually you "could help but say" and NOT SAY. what business of yours is it as to where he was? summer75
  • Score: -16

10:30pm Sat 5 Apr 14

summer75 says...

While all the arguments are going on about Huntingtons, please remember that this is about a man that has sadly died. Pay some respect to his family in this sad time and keep your arguments for another time
While all the arguments are going on about Huntingtons, please remember that this is about a man that has sadly died. Pay some respect to his family in this sad time and keep your arguments for another time summer75
  • Score: 4

10:34pm Sat 5 Apr 14

summer75 says...

reasonable75 wrote:
franksutton wrote:
I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason

To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this

Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments

Perhaps it is shame on you
Regretfully I can understand why, and agree with you

If someone running a business starts making wild accusations and insulting people then they are likely to go out of business

Even after the editor of NS explained the reasons they could not cover the event (but said where they could get free publicity) these "official fundraisers" continued to claim this death is because of NS not covering their event

Like Frank Sutton, if I am asked to contribute to this charity then I will refuse
well lets hope nobody you know will ever suffer with it then
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franksutton[/bold] wrote: I had never hear of Huntington's Disease - but it the fundraisers display such an attitude then this is on charity I will NEVER make a donation to. And I will tell my friends and family the reason To blame a death on a local newspaper because it did not publicise a fundraising event is completely unfair, yet at least 2 of the "fundraisers" have done this Then insulted anyone who challenged your comments Perhaps it is shame on you[/p][/quote]Regretfully I can understand why, and agree with you If someone running a business starts making wild accusations and insulting people then they are likely to go out of business Even after the editor of NS explained the reasons they could not cover the event (but said where they could get free publicity) these "official fundraisers" continued to claim this death is because of NS not covering their event Like Frank Sutton, if I am asked to contribute to this charity then I will refuse[/p][/quote]well lets hope nobody you know will ever suffer with it then summer75
  • Score: -13

11:48pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease says...

In my humble opinion it would appear that those that have elected to participate in the above debate are ignorant of the implications of Huntington's Disease, .I retire from this debate and assure you with all my heart that I would not wish this Disease on my very worst enemy, It is truly evil and I apologise if you have found my means of raising awareness unpalatable. Having upset you all so much, please read up about thiis condition and open your hearts and minds......I truly feel that I have been bullied on this forum from the minute I posted and for that reason will not do so again,so this is goodbye, I truly hope that none of you ever discover HD within your family .
Thank you to the few who supported me.
In my humble opinion it would appear that those that have elected to participate in the above debate are ignorant of the implications of Huntington's Disease, .I retire from this debate and assure you with all my heart that I would not wish this Disease on my very worst enemy, It is truly evil and I apologise if you have found my means of raising awareness unpalatable. Having upset you all so much, please read up about thiis condition and open your hearts and minds......I truly feel that I have been bullied on this forum from the minute I posted and for that reason will not do so again,so this is goodbye, I truly hope that none of you ever discover HD within your family . Thank you to the few who supported me. Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease
  • Score: 9

12:15am Sun 6 Apr 14

reasonable75 says...

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease wrote:
In my humble opinion it would appear that those that have elected to participate in the above debate are ignorant of the implications of Huntington's Disease, .I retire from this debate and assure you with all my heart that I would not wish this Disease on my very worst enemy, It is truly evil and I apologise if you have found my means of raising awareness unpalatable. Having upset you all so much, please read up about thiis condition and open your hearts and minds......I truly feel that I have been bullied on this forum from the minute I posted and for that reason will not do so again,so this is goodbye, I truly hope that none of you ever discover HD within your family .
Thank you to the few who supported me.
The few that supported you? Not so much supporting you as agreeing that the lack of publicity for a fundraising event contributed to this death

Bullied? So anyone not agreeing with you is bullying?

Perhaps you could explain to the HDA why you have decided to set back their efforts, because that's what's happened due to your wild accusations
[quote][p][bold]Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease[/bold] wrote: In my humble opinion it would appear that those that have elected to participate in the above debate are ignorant of the implications of Huntington's Disease, .I retire from this debate and assure you with all my heart that I would not wish this Disease on my very worst enemy, It is truly evil and I apologise if you have found my means of raising awareness unpalatable. Having upset you all so much, please read up about thiis condition and open your hearts and minds......I truly feel that I have been bullied on this forum from the minute I posted and for that reason will not do so again,so this is goodbye, I truly hope that none of you ever discover HD within your family . Thank you to the few who supported me.[/p][/quote]The few that supported you? Not so much supporting you as agreeing that the lack of publicity for a fundraising event contributed to this death Bullied? So anyone not agreeing with you is bullying? Perhaps you could explain to the HDA why you have decided to set back their efforts, because that's what's happened due to your wild accusations reasonable75
  • Score: 1

12:37am Sun 6 Apr 14

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease says...

Live a day in my shoes pal
Live a day in my shoes pal Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease
  • Score: 6

9:06am Sun 6 Apr 14

Marty1979 says...

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease wrote:
In my humble opinion it would appear that those that have elected to participate in the above debate are ignorant of the implications of Huntington's Disease, .I retire from this debate and assure you with all my heart that I would not wish this Disease on my very worst enemy, It is truly evil and I apologise if you have found my means of raising awareness unpalatable. Having upset you all so much, please read up about thiis condition and open your hearts and minds......I truly feel that I have been bullied on this forum from the minute I posted and for that reason will not do so again,so this is goodbye, I truly hope that none of you ever discover HD within your family .
Thank you to the few who supported me.
You talk of bullying - but it was you who were "disgusted" because a local paper did not publicise a fund raising event, and inferred to this death

Before your comments posts were those of sympathy. You could have used the opportunity to give details of HD, perhaps with a link to the site, instead you chose to try to apportion blame

You then complain that HD has been misspelt, but you can't get Motor Neurone disease (which my mother suffered from) right

HD must be a terrible condition, but you seem to be trying to blame others - why

And exactly where have you been bullied? Is disagreeing with you bullying?
[quote][p][bold]Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease[/bold] wrote: In my humble opinion it would appear that those that have elected to participate in the above debate are ignorant of the implications of Huntington's Disease, .I retire from this debate and assure you with all my heart that I would not wish this Disease on my very worst enemy, It is truly evil and I apologise if you have found my means of raising awareness unpalatable. Having upset you all so much, please read up about thiis condition and open your hearts and minds......I truly feel that I have been bullied on this forum from the minute I posted and for that reason will not do so again,so this is goodbye, I truly hope that none of you ever discover HD within your family . Thank you to the few who supported me.[/p][/quote]You talk of bullying - but it was you who were "disgusted" because a local paper did not publicise a fund raising event, and inferred to this death Before your comments posts were those of sympathy. You could have used the opportunity to give details of HD, perhaps with a link to the site, instead you chose to try to apportion blame You then complain that HD has been misspelt, but you can't get Motor Neurone disease (which my mother suffered from) right HD must be a terrible condition, but you seem to be trying to blame others - why And exactly where have you been bullied? Is disagreeing with you bullying? Marty1979
  • Score: -3

10:00am Sun 6 Apr 14

sueann1 says...

Please stop all this argument. I am a family member of this man and it is very upsetting to see all these comments and argueing. Please stop. Wheat her he died by suicide or natural causes. He has died. Let him rest in peace. Find other sites to do your argueing it is not called for here. Thank you
Please stop all this argument. I am a family member of this man and it is very upsetting to see all these comments and argueing. Please stop. Wheat her he died by suicide or natural causes. He has died. Let him rest in peace. Find other sites to do your argueing it is not called for here. Thank you sueann1
  • Score: 23

10:53am Sun 6 Apr 14

summer75 says...

I will be ringing the newshopper tomorrow to insist that these arguments are removed. It is NOT the time or place for your pathetic comments on this disease. Ive already said, STOP IT and still you carry on. Have some bloody respect will you
I will be ringing the newshopper tomorrow to insist that these arguments are removed. It is NOT the time or place for your pathetic comments on this disease. Ive already said, STOP IT and still you carry on. Have some bloody respect will you summer75
  • Score: -6

1:41pm Sun 6 Apr 14

sarfflondonbird says...

dee2009 wrote:
Someone jump from the new flats next to Sainsbury's
Is this the same story or a different one?
[quote][p][bold]dee2009[/bold] wrote: Someone jump from the new flats next to Sainsbury's[/p][/quote]Is this the same story or a different one? sarfflondonbird
  • Score: -64

2:17pm Sun 6 Apr 14

sarfflondonbird says...

summer75 wrote:
sarfflondonbird wrote:
Such a sad story. Poor fella. RIP.
Cant help but say though, if he was seen regularly smoking a cigarette on his balcony on the first floor, who;s balcony on the fifth floor was he on then?
Actually you "could help but say" and NOT SAY. what business of yours is it as to where he was?
You are right it is not my business at all, but then again, what business is it of yours as to what question I put forth? I think it's a valid question. The report states: One minute he is seen on a first floor balcony smoking, within minutes he has been stated as jumping off a fifth floor balcony. Perhaps the balconies are communal, I don't know the block or the area. But it could well be that they have personal balconies, it wasn't stated in the story. Perhaps you might know? You could then put me straight.
Also, whilst I am on here, I agree with and appalud the H.D. group with their enlightenment of the disease on this thread, I can also see the two sides to the comments on here but I have to say in defence of the H.D. group that I believe they were merely stating that if people were or could be made more aware of the conditions and its effects, that it would maybe go someway to understanding people who suffer from this and perhaps looking out for them. I don't believe that they were personally accusing N.S. of this mans death (in a general way) by not publishing an article on their behalf.
Instead of printing worthless stories about so called influential people modelling for M&S and kids flying around in helicopters - all the time, try giving educational facts such as these different cases every so often, but dont be too selective on the types of diseases will you N.S..Perhaps you could have a medical health page dedicated to these stories.
[quote][p][bold]summer75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote: Such a sad story. Poor fella. RIP. Cant help but say though, if he was seen regularly smoking a cigarette on his balcony on the first floor, who;s balcony on the fifth floor was he on then?[/p][/quote]Actually you "could help but say" and NOT SAY. what business of yours is it as to where he was?[/p][/quote]You are right it is not my business at all, but then again, what business is it of yours as to what question I put forth? I think it's a valid question. The report states: One minute he is seen on a first floor balcony smoking, within minutes he has been stated as jumping off a fifth floor balcony. Perhaps the balconies are communal, I don't know the block or the area. But it could well be that they have personal balconies, it wasn't stated in the story. Perhaps you might know? You could then put me straight. Also, whilst I am on here, I agree with and appalud the H.D. group with their enlightenment of the disease on this thread, I can also see the two sides to the comments on here but I have to say in defence of the H.D. group that I believe they were merely stating that if people were or could be made more aware of the conditions and its effects, that it would maybe go someway to understanding people who suffer from this and perhaps looking out for them. I don't believe that they were personally accusing N.S. of this mans death (in a general way) by not publishing an article on their behalf. Instead of printing worthless stories about so called influential people modelling for M&S and kids flying around in helicopters - all the time, try giving educational facts such as these different cases every so often, but dont be too selective on the types of diseases will you N.S..Perhaps you could have a medical health page dedicated to these stories. sarfflondonbird
  • Score: -12

3:21pm Sun 6 Apr 14

summer75 says...

sarfflondonbird wrote:
summer75 wrote:
sarfflondonbird wrote:
Such a sad story. Poor fella. RIP.
Cant help but say though, if he was seen regularly smoking a cigarette on his balcony on the first floor, who;s balcony on the fifth floor was he on then?
Actually you "could help but say" and NOT SAY. what business of yours is it as to where he was?
You are right it is not my business at all, but then again, what business is it of yours as to what question I put forth? I think it's a valid question. The report states: One minute he is seen on a first floor balcony smoking, within minutes he has been stated as jumping off a fifth floor balcony. Perhaps the balconies are communal, I don't know the block or the area. But it could well be that they have personal balconies, it wasn't stated in the story. Perhaps you might know? You could then put me straight.
Also, whilst I am on here, I agree with and appalud the H.D. group with their enlightenment of the disease on this thread, I can also see the two sides to the comments on here but I have to say in defence of the H.D. group that I believe they were merely stating that if people were or could be made more aware of the conditions and its effects, that it would maybe go someway to understanding people who suffer from this and perhaps looking out for them. I don't believe that they were personally accusing N.S. of this mans death (in a general way) by not publishing an article on their behalf.
Instead of printing worthless stories about so called influential people modelling for M&S and kids flying around in helicopters - all the time, try giving educational facts such as these different cases every so often, but dont be too selective on the types of diseases will you N.S..Perhaps you could have a medical health page dedicated to these stories.
What business is it of mine? HE IS FAMILY THATS WHAT! Where does it say "within minutes he has has been stated as jumping off a fifth floor balcony" maybe you should re read the statement. As to putting you straight, i will. You know nothing about this man or his situation so DO NOT go round making assumptions and NEVER believe what a newspaper has to say. Where he was, what he was doing has got sfa to do with anybody
[quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]summer75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote: Such a sad story. Poor fella. RIP. Cant help but say though, if he was seen regularly smoking a cigarette on his balcony on the first floor, who;s balcony on the fifth floor was he on then?[/p][/quote]Actually you "could help but say" and NOT SAY. what business of yours is it as to where he was?[/p][/quote]You are right it is not my business at all, but then again, what business is it of yours as to what question I put forth? I think it's a valid question. The report states: One minute he is seen on a first floor balcony smoking, within minutes he has been stated as jumping off a fifth floor balcony. Perhaps the balconies are communal, I don't know the block or the area. But it could well be that they have personal balconies, it wasn't stated in the story. Perhaps you might know? You could then put me straight. Also, whilst I am on here, I agree with and appalud the H.D. group with their enlightenment of the disease on this thread, I can also see the two sides to the comments on here but I have to say in defence of the H.D. group that I believe they were merely stating that if people were or could be made more aware of the conditions and its effects, that it would maybe go someway to understanding people who suffer from this and perhaps looking out for them. I don't believe that they were personally accusing N.S. of this mans death (in a general way) by not publishing an article on their behalf. Instead of printing worthless stories about so called influential people modelling for M&S and kids flying around in helicopters - all the time, try giving educational facts such as these different cases every so often, but dont be too selective on the types of diseases will you N.S..Perhaps you could have a medical health page dedicated to these stories.[/p][/quote]What business is it of mine? HE IS FAMILY THATS WHAT! Where does it say "within minutes he has has been stated as jumping off a fifth floor balcony" maybe you should re read the statement. As to putting you straight, i will. You know nothing about this man or his situation so DO NOT go round making assumptions and NEVER believe what a newspaper has to say. Where he was, what he was doing has got sfa to do with anybody summer75
  • Score: -10

4:59pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Gypo.Joe says...

summer75 please ignore sarflondonturd it's a troll who spouts nonsense on the Shopper most days. Report 'its' posts with the report button. If enough people report the posts the editor will remove them and block 'it' from posting any further distasteful comments.

Condolences to you and your family.
summer75 please ignore sarflondonturd it's a troll who spouts nonsense on the Shopper most days. Report 'its' posts with the report button. If enough people report the posts the editor will remove them and block 'it' from posting any further distasteful comments. Condolences to you and your family. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 60

5:11pm Sun 6 Apr 14

summer75 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
summer75 please ignore sarflondonturd it's a troll who spouts nonsense on the Shopper most days. Report 'its' posts with the report button. If enough people report the posts the editor will remove them and block 'it' from posting any further distasteful comments.

Condolences to you and your family.
Thank you Gypo.Joe. shame i cant meet up with "it".
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: summer75 please ignore sarflondonturd it's a troll who spouts nonsense on the Shopper most days. Report 'its' posts with the report button. If enough people report the posts the editor will remove them and block 'it' from posting any further distasteful comments. Condolences to you and your family.[/p][/quote]Thank you Gypo.Joe. shame i cant meet up with "it". summer75
  • Score: -15

7:05pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Dr. Nick says...

Wow!

I go away for a couple of days and SLB has managed to make a new 'friend' - SLB you are utterly disgusting and have no right to question these good people. Have some respect; a man has died in tragic circumstances and all you can to question where he was and why - it does not matter and has nothing to do with you. I knew you were a bad person but I never realised just how low you would go. I guess you have manipulated votes too as you do on other posts?

To "summer75": do as Joe suggests and report SLBs posts; I would but feel it is not my place. HD is a serious condition which affects not only the individual but also those around them. My thoughts are with you, your family and friends at this most difficult of times.
Wow! I go away for a couple of days and SLB has managed to make a new 'friend' - SLB you are utterly disgusting and have no right to question these good people. Have some respect; a man has died in tragic circumstances and all you can to question where he was and why - it does not matter and has nothing to do with you. I knew you were a bad person but I never realised just how low you would go. I guess you have manipulated votes too as you do on other posts? To "summer75": do as Joe suggests and report SLBs posts; I would but feel it is not my place. HD is a serious condition which affects not only the individual but also those around them. My thoughts are with you, your family and friends at this most difficult of times. Dr. Nick
  • Score: 30

7:59pm Sun 6 Apr 14

summer75 says...

Dr. Nick wrote:
Wow!

I go away for a couple of days and SLB has managed to make a new 'friend' - SLB you are utterly disgusting and have no right to question these good people. Have some respect; a man has died in tragic circumstances and all you can to question where he was and why - it does not matter and has nothing to do with you. I knew you were a bad person but I never realised just how low you would go. I guess you have manipulated votes too as you do on other posts?

To "summer75": do as Joe suggests and report SLBs posts; I would but feel it is not my place. HD is a serious condition which affects not only the individual but also those around them. My thoughts are with you, your family and friends at this most difficult of times.
Thank you Dr. Nick. I really didnt realise just how lonely and sad something like sarflondonturd could be. i now feel quite sorry for this piece of "something i trod in" and will no longer lower myself to its level. May i suggest "it" gets a life and leaves others alone
[quote][p][bold]Dr. Nick[/bold] wrote: Wow! I go away for a couple of days and SLB has managed to make a new 'friend' - SLB you are utterly disgusting and have no right to question these good people. Have some respect; a man has died in tragic circumstances and all you can to question where he was and why - it does not matter and has nothing to do with you. I knew you were a bad person but I never realised just how low you would go. I guess you have manipulated votes too as you do on other posts? To "summer75": do as Joe suggests and report SLBs posts; I would but feel it is not my place. HD is a serious condition which affects not only the individual but also those around them. My thoughts are with you, your family and friends at this most difficult of times.[/p][/quote]Thank you Dr. Nick. I really didnt realise just how lonely and sad something like sarflondonturd could be. i now feel quite sorry for this piece of "something i trod in" and will no longer lower myself to its level. May i suggest "it" gets a life and leaves others alone summer75
  • Score: -20

8:56pm Sun 6 Apr 14

pixcypantz` says...

I have tried to read all the comments but i am so mad right now, wonderful that you are raising awareness ... but you could use a better platform than some poor mans death, no one knows why he did what he did but him it could of been the HD or anything life is fickle, let him rest in peace for goodness sake.

One issue i will raise though is Raising awareness of HD, how come you are so hostile if you are raising awareness stop arguing with people for goodness sake, there are many diseases out there that many people don't understand and do you know why? because they aren't doctors, were i work there are people with parkinsons, huntingtons , lupus, wilson's , dementia and many other illnesses that are threatening and people are unaware of because their rare now be a dear and raise awareness somewhere else and let this family mourn in peace.

my condolences to the family, may he be free and happy now x
I have tried to read all the comments but i am so mad right now, wonderful that you are raising awareness ... but you could use a better platform than some poor mans death, no one knows why he did what he did but him it could of been the HD or anything life is fickle, let him rest in peace for goodness sake. One issue i will raise though is Raising awareness of HD, how come you are so hostile if you are raising awareness stop arguing with people for goodness sake, there are many diseases out there that many people don't understand and do you know why? because they aren't doctors, were i work there are people with parkinsons, huntingtons , lupus, wilson's , dementia and many other illnesses that are threatening and people are unaware of because their rare now be a dear and raise awareness somewhere else and let this family mourn in peace. my condolences to the family, may he be free and happy now x pixcypantz`
  • Score: 2

9:02pm Sun 6 Apr 14

sueann1 says...

Summer75 I see you have said you are a family member of this man. So am I. In which way are you family?
Summer75 I see you have said you are a family member of this man. So am I. In which way are you family? sueann1
  • Score: 0

9:11pm Sun 6 Apr 14

summer75 says...

sueann1 wrote:
Summer75 I see you have said you are a family member of this man. So am I. In which way are you family?
bro in law
[quote][p][bold]sueann1[/bold] wrote: Summer75 I see you have said you are a family member of this man. So am I. In which way are you family?[/p][/quote]bro in law summer75
  • Score: -7

9:13pm Sun 6 Apr 14

sueann1 says...

Oh ok. First or second wife
Oh ok. First or second wife sueann1
  • Score: -2

9:15pm Sun 6 Apr 14

summer75 says...

are you SG?
are you SG? summer75
  • Score: -7

9:18pm Sun 6 Apr 14

sueann1 says...

Yes and you?
Yes and you? sueann1
  • Score: -4

9:19pm Sun 6 Apr 14

summer75 says...

sueann1 wrote:
Yes and you?
same. will add you on fb x
[quote][p][bold]sueann1[/bold] wrote: Yes and you?[/p][/quote]same. will add you on fb x summer75
  • Score: -8

9:47am Mon 7 Apr 14

the wall says...

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease wrote:
It was the caretaker of the flats that told the NS that the man was suffering from HD, so he , at least was aware. And had the NS covered the event
Which was organised raise funds and AWARENESS for the HDA,
Then MAYBE just Maybe someone may have reached out to him, or befriended him or just made a difference to his life.
I am not trying to be smug or clever, this is a human tragedy, one that happens far too often in HD world through lack of awareness, dont shoot me down, help me raise AWARENESS, it saves lives.
I really hope you are not the official spokes person.
[quote][p][bold]Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease[/bold] wrote: It was the caretaker of the flats that told the NS that the man was suffering from HD, so he , at least was aware. And had the NS covered the event Which was organised raise funds and AWARENESS for the HDA, Then MAYBE just Maybe someone may have reached out to him, or befriended him or just made a difference to his life. I am not trying to be smug or clever, this is a human tragedy, one that happens far too often in HD world through lack of awareness, dont shoot me down, help me raise AWARENESS, it saves lives.[/p][/quote]I really hope you are not the official spokes person. the wall
  • Score: -18

2:28pm Mon 7 Apr 14

sarfflondonbird says...

summer75 wrote:
sarfflondonbird wrote:
summer75 wrote:
sarfflondonbird wrote:
Such a sad story. Poor fella. RIP.
Cant help but say though, if he was seen regularly smoking a cigarette on his balcony on the first floor, who;s balcony on the fifth floor was he on then?
Actually you "could help but say" and NOT SAY. what business of yours is it as to where he was?
You are right it is not my business at all, but then again, what business is it of yours as to what question I put forth? I think it's a valid question. The report states: One minute he is seen on a first floor balcony smoking, within minutes he has been stated as jumping off a fifth floor balcony. Perhaps the balconies are communal, I don't know the block or the area. But it could well be that they have personal balconies, it wasn't stated in the story. Perhaps you might know? You could then put me straight.
Also, whilst I am on here, I agree with and appalud the H.D. group with their enlightenment of the disease on this thread, I can also see the two sides to the comments on here but I have to say in defence of the H.D. group that I believe they were merely stating that if people were or could be made more aware of the conditions and its effects, that it would maybe go someway to understanding people who suffer from this and perhaps looking out for them. I don't believe that they were personally accusing N.S. of this mans death (in a general way) by not publishing an article on their behalf.
Instead of printing worthless stories about so called influential people modelling for M&S and kids flying around in helicopters - all the time, try giving educational facts such as these different cases every so often, but dont be too selective on the types of diseases will you N.S..Perhaps you could have a medical health page dedicated to these stories.
What business is it of mine? HE IS FAMILY THATS WHAT! Where does it say "within minutes he has has been stated as jumping off a fifth floor balcony" maybe you should re read the statement. As to putting you straight, i will. You know nothing about this man or his situation so DO NOT go round making assumptions and NEVER believe what a newspaper has to say. Where he was, what he was doing has got sfa to do with anybody
Have taken your comment on board, Apologies sent if you felt offended in this way.
My reason for asking was because part of the paper reported when speaking to Mr Sinfield -
' He said: "Yesterday afternoon he was sitting out on his patio having a cigarette. I went home about half past three and apparently it happened about 10 past five. '
Then it goes on to say -
A spokesman for Bexley Police said: "Police, London Ambulance Service, London Fire Brigade and the London Air Ambulance were called to Town Hall Square, Crayford at approximately 5pm on Thursday after reports of a male falling from a fifth floor balcony.
Yes it would seem minutes was a slight exaggeration, more like an hour and a half from when the caretaker went home. I wasn't making assumptions as such merely asking how it got to that stage from first to fifth floor without anybody else in the block being aware, or attempting to stop and help him.
And you are correct, I do not know anything about this man nor his situation, except of his sad ending. As you rightly say, never believe what a newspaper has to say, but that was why I asked the question, because of the circumstances reported.
Finally I can understand you're being upset and on the defensive, but with your offensive tone on the last remark made, maybe that's one reason why people don't look out for people with these type of diseases because they kind of get a 'kick in the face' by the relatives/friends such as you've just made for showing concern or posing questions that may not have entered their heads at the time.
I will say no more on this matter, but hope that you can find peace within yourself soon over this sad incident. I once again apologize for upsetting you and wish you well.
[quote][p][bold]summer75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]summer75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote: Such a sad story. Poor fella. RIP. Cant help but say though, if he was seen regularly smoking a cigarette on his balcony on the first floor, who;s balcony on the fifth floor was he on then?[/p][/quote]Actually you "could help but say" and NOT SAY. what business of yours is it as to where he was?[/p][/quote]You are right it is not my business at all, but then again, what business is it of yours as to what question I put forth? I think it's a valid question. The report states: One minute he is seen on a first floor balcony smoking, within minutes he has been stated as jumping off a fifth floor balcony. Perhaps the balconies are communal, I don't know the block or the area. But it could well be that they have personal balconies, it wasn't stated in the story. Perhaps you might know? You could then put me straight. Also, whilst I am on here, I agree with and appalud the H.D. group with their enlightenment of the disease on this thread, I can also see the two sides to the comments on here but I have to say in defence of the H.D. group that I believe they were merely stating that if people were or could be made more aware of the conditions and its effects, that it would maybe go someway to understanding people who suffer from this and perhaps looking out for them. I don't believe that they were personally accusing N.S. of this mans death (in a general way) by not publishing an article on their behalf. Instead of printing worthless stories about so called influential people modelling for M&S and kids flying around in helicopters - all the time, try giving educational facts such as these different cases every so often, but dont be too selective on the types of diseases will you N.S..Perhaps you could have a medical health page dedicated to these stories.[/p][/quote]What business is it of mine? HE IS FAMILY THATS WHAT! Where does it say "within minutes he has has been stated as jumping off a fifth floor balcony" maybe you should re read the statement. As to putting you straight, i will. You know nothing about this man or his situation so DO NOT go round making assumptions and NEVER believe what a newspaper has to say. Where he was, what he was doing has got sfa to do with anybody[/p][/quote]Have taken your comment on board, Apologies sent if you felt offended in this way. My reason for asking was because part of the paper reported when speaking to Mr Sinfield - ' He said: "Yesterday afternoon he was sitting out on his patio having a cigarette. I went home about half past three and apparently it happened about 10 past five. ' Then it goes on to say - A spokesman for Bexley Police said: "Police, London Ambulance Service, London Fire Brigade and the London Air Ambulance were called to Town Hall Square, Crayford at approximately 5pm on Thursday after reports of a male falling from a fifth floor balcony. Yes it would seem minutes was a slight exaggeration, more like an hour and a half from when the caretaker went home. I wasn't making assumptions as such merely asking how it got to that stage from first to fifth floor without anybody else in the block being aware, or attempting to stop and help him. And you are correct, I do not know anything about this man nor his situation, except of his sad ending. As you rightly say, never believe what a newspaper has to say, but that was why I asked the question, because of the circumstances reported. Finally I can understand you're being upset and on the defensive, but with your offensive tone on the last remark made, maybe that's one reason why people don't look out for people with these type of diseases because they kind of get a 'kick in the face' by the relatives/friends such as you've just made for showing concern or posing questions that may not have entered their heads at the time. I will say no more on this matter, but hope that you can find peace within yourself soon over this sad incident. I once again apologize for upsetting you and wish you well. sarfflondonbird
  • Score: -58

6:40pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Marty1979 says...

the wall wrote:
Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease wrote:
It was the caretaker of the flats that told the NS that the man was suffering from HD, so he , at least was aware. And had the NS covered the event
Which was organised raise funds and AWARENESS for the HDA,
Then MAYBE just Maybe someone may have reached out to him, or befriended him or just made a difference to his life.
I am not trying to be smug or clever, this is a human tragedy, one that happens far too often in HD world through lack of awareness, dont shoot me down, help me raise AWARENESS, it saves lives.
I really hope you are not the official spokes person.
The title & comments suggest he/she might be
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease[/bold] wrote: It was the caretaker of the flats that told the NS that the man was suffering from HD, so he , at least was aware. And had the NS covered the event Which was organised raise funds and AWARENESS for the HDA, Then MAYBE just Maybe someone may have reached out to him, or befriended him or just made a difference to his life. I am not trying to be smug or clever, this is a human tragedy, one that happens far too often in HD world through lack of awareness, dont shoot me down, help me raise AWARENESS, it saves lives.[/p][/quote]I really hope you are not the official spokes person.[/p][/quote]The title & comments suggest he/she might be Marty1979
  • Score: 6

8:02pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease says...

No , I am not the "official " spokesperson for the HDA . I was not even aware of the existance of Huntington's Disease until June 2013 when we learned that my husbands 2 elder sisters, from whom we were estranged had both been diagnosed. My husband was diagnosed in November 2013 when we realised that he too was showing symptoms.This means that our 2 children are each at 50% risk of inheriting it.
My husbands mother was never officially diagnosed but died some 20 years ago after suffering years of mental torment. It is obvious now that she too was suffering from the disease it being a genetic disease which does not "skip" generations.Her brother had committed suicide several years earlier and was almost certain to have also had the disease.there was no genetic test available when they died.
Our whole lives been turned upside down by this disease and our future snatched away. That is why I am so passionate about raising awareness.
You have made it clear you dont agree with me, And I bowed out of further debate.
The Family of this poor gentleman asked that the arguements stop but still you find it necessary to keep chipping away at me. I am very hurt by what has been said on here. Please leave me alone now. I believe your behaviour is called Trolling, please stop.
To the family of the gentleman , please accept my sincere condolences. I have some insight into what your family may have suffered,and am sorry that my efforts to raise awareness were so badly recieved. My thoughts are with you all.
No , I am not the "official " spokesperson for the HDA . I was not even aware of the existance of Huntington's Disease until June 2013 when we learned that my husbands 2 elder sisters, from whom we were estranged had both been diagnosed. My husband was diagnosed in November 2013 when we realised that he too was showing symptoms.This means that our 2 children are each at 50% risk of inheriting it. My husbands mother was never officially diagnosed but died some 20 years ago after suffering years of mental torment. It is obvious now that she too was suffering from the disease it being a genetic disease which does not "skip" generations.Her brother had committed suicide several years earlier and was almost certain to have also had the disease.there was no genetic test available when they died. Our whole lives been turned upside down by this disease and our future snatched away. That is why I am so passionate about raising awareness. You have made it clear you dont agree with me, And I bowed out of further debate. The Family of this poor gentleman asked that the arguements stop but still you find it necessary to keep chipping away at me. I am very hurt by what has been said on here. Please leave me alone now. I believe your behaviour is called Trolling, please stop. To the family of the gentleman , please accept my sincere condolences. I have some insight into what your family may have suffered,and am sorry that my efforts to raise awareness were so badly recieved. My thoughts are with you all. Raising Awareness of Huntington's Disease
  • Score: 6

8:32pm Mon 7 Apr 14

DaintyT says...

First of all, can I convey my condolences to the family of the deceased man. Whatever the circumstances of his death, be it HD connected or not, it is a sad tragedy.
I am not an official spokesperson for the HDA but I am led to believe that those who have posted above are not either. I do have a connection with the Huntington’s Disease Association through being a Member, and with the disease itself having lost a loved one to it.
Whilst I am not a spokesperson, I would like to say that I have read through the posts above and can see things could have, and should have, been handled and worded better to cover HD awareness in places.
There has been an unfortunate display of emotions and anger. Anger is a symptom of grief and I suspect the original poster who called the NS to ‘shame’ was lashing out. Every time the HD community loses a person it’s like losing one of their own and I can imagine the poster felt they may just have made a difference had they been listened to by the NS, and an interest shown. The NS cannot cover every cause. They do their best I am sure. How sad though the HD interest was shown at all if it had to be in this way though, through the death of someone.
Chances are an article would not have saved the man. As so many have pointed out there would have needed to be a heap of coincidences (his/others’ reading and acknowledging and acting upon the knowledge etc). However, we will never know now.
I do hope that people who have a poor opinion of the HD fundraising community will rethink and look beyond the displays in here. The unfortunate language and accusation has no doubt come from frustration and, dare I say it, misinterpretations on many sides.
Ultimately, I hope the family of the deceased can take from the above exchanges that people DO care. Their loved one split the opinion and interpretation but that’s because people cared passionately about speaking out having taken the story, and the deceased into their hearts. Be it through direct experience of HD or not.
The media (not just the NS I hasten to add) could do so much to help others through taking note before tragedy, and not just after.
I hope the deceased is resting in peace now. Having watched my love one deteriorate to the point of needing full care it could be said the deceased has managed to beat HD in a way, and perhaps on his own terms.
First of all, can I convey my condolences to the family of the deceased man. Whatever the circumstances of his death, be it HD connected or not, it is a sad tragedy. I am not an official spokesperson for the HDA but I am led to believe that those who have posted above are not either. I do have a connection with the Huntington’s Disease Association through being a Member, and with the disease itself having lost a loved one to it. Whilst I am not a spokesperson, I would like to say that I have read through the posts above and can see things could have, and should have, been handled and worded better to cover HD awareness in places. There has been an unfortunate display of emotions and anger. Anger is a symptom of grief and I suspect the original poster who called the NS to ‘shame’ was lashing out. Every time the HD community loses a person it’s like losing one of their own and I can imagine the poster felt they may just have made a difference had they been listened to by the NS, and an interest shown. The NS cannot cover every cause. They do their best I am sure. How sad though the HD interest was shown at all if it had to be in this way though, through the death of someone. Chances are an article would not have saved the man. As so many have pointed out there would have needed to be a heap of coincidences (his/others’ reading and acknowledging and acting upon the knowledge etc). However, we will never know now. I do hope that people who have a poor opinion of the HD fundraising community will rethink and look beyond the displays in here. The unfortunate language and accusation has no doubt come from frustration and, dare I say it, misinterpretations on many sides. Ultimately, I hope the family of the deceased can take from the above exchanges that people DO care. Their loved one split the opinion and interpretation but that’s because people cared passionately about speaking out having taken the story, and the deceased into their hearts. Be it through direct experience of HD or not. The media (not just the NS I hasten to add) could do so much to help others through taking note before tragedy, and not just after. I hope the deceased is resting in peace now. Having watched my love one deteriorate to the point of needing full care it could be said the deceased has managed to beat HD in a way, and perhaps on his own terms. DaintyT
  • Score: 6

2:53pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Dr. Nick says...

Heh, I see that SLB is so 'sorry' that they have manipulated the votes to stupid amounts now - that just goes to prove the point that they are not sorry and are just interested in their own personal persona and popularity. Sure, 70 people were still reading this when you posted your 'but'-filled apology; pull the other one, you may be that stupid but the rest of us aren't. Vote manipulation just makes you the loser :) lol

NEWSFLASH: voting makes no odds, what you write is wrong and anyone who can read knows that - keep those negs flowing and boost yours up as high as you like.
Heh, I see that SLB is so 'sorry' that they have manipulated the votes to stupid amounts now - that just goes to prove the point that they are not sorry and are just interested in their own personal persona and popularity. Sure, 70 people were still reading this when you posted your 'but'-filled apology; pull the other one, you may be that stupid but the rest of us aren't. Vote manipulation just makes you the loser :) lol NEWSFLASH: voting makes no odds, what you write is wrong and anyone who can read knows that - keep those negs flowing and boost yours up as high as you like. Dr. Nick
  • Score: 42

5:14pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Gypo.Joe says...

Apology my arse. More like 'it's got the frighteners that another trolling name will be blocked.
I read the 'turds' comment yesterday and it's only that Dr Nick has commented I felt I should agree with him 100%.


Out of respect for the deceased family and friends I'm not going to comment any more on this story.
Apology my arse. More like 'it's got the frighteners that another trolling name will be blocked. I read the 'turds' comment yesterday and it's only that Dr Nick has commented I felt I should agree with him 100%. Out of respect for the deceased family and friends I'm not going to comment any more on this story. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 7

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