WATCH: Bromley driver 'annoyed' and 'upset' after video of altercation with cyclist becomes YouTube hit

News Shopper: Robert Lewis is upset that a video of his altercation with cyclingmikey is on YouTube Robert Lewis is upset that a video of his altercation with cyclingmikey is on YouTube

A Bromley driver is "annoyed" and "upset" after a video of an altercation he had with a cyclist found its way onto YouTube.

The incident happened last Thursday (March 20) as 56-year-old Robert Lewis drove down Bromley Common.

He attempted to overtake a recumbent bicycle, but ended up exchanging some heated words with the man riding it.

That man was 'CyclingMikey', a YouTube phenomenon who has uploaded numerous videos of his cycling experiences.

Mr Lewis, of Southborough Lane, said: "I didn't sleep very well over the weekend because it really upset me.

"I don't really get into confrontations with people on the road.

"I don't speed, I've never had a parking fine since I started driving in 1975.

"I'm annoyed he's put this thing about me on YouTube.

"He's given me this hand signal and I am thinking he's wanting me to pass.

"He says 'stay away from me' and he says he's going to put the video on YouTube which I think is an infringement of my privacy.

"I think he does normal cyclists a disservice by not using the cycle lanes for safety reasons, but happily using them if traffic impedes his progress."

Below the video CyclingMikey writes: "The real question is why can't you overtake me safely and normally?

"I'm an experienced driver, so I understand exactly what you should be doing.

"As an experienced cyclist with instructor training, I understand how I should be cycling too."

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11:14am Wed 26 Mar 14

white rabbit9 says...

Everything is on youtube. EVERYTHING!! cyclist's are barmey though, I think they cycle to get the abuse.
Everything is on youtube. EVERYTHING!! cyclist's are barmey though, I think they cycle to get the abuse. white rabbit9
  • Score: -14

11:24am Wed 26 Mar 14

blogger85 says...

I have seen these 'bikes' around Bromley Common for a while now, I think they are bloody nuisance! They are too low to see if you are driving and are all over the place, I think they should use the cycle lane on the pavement, it is there for a reason and cost enough to put there. Bromley Common is not the safest road as it is with buses, lorries, emergency vehicle not to mention people who speed down there, will only be a matter of time before one of the rider on these 'bikes' is squashed.
I have seen these 'bikes' around Bromley Common for a while now, I think they are bloody nuisance! They are too low to see if you are driving and are all over the place, I think they should use the cycle lane on the pavement, it is there for a reason and cost enough to put there. Bromley Common is not the safest road as it is with buses, lorries, emergency vehicle not to mention people who speed down there, will only be a matter of time before one of the rider on these 'bikes' is squashed. blogger85
  • Score: -48

11:29am Wed 26 Mar 14

the wall says...

IMHO cyclingmikey is a being a twunt.
IMHO cyclingmikey is a being a twunt. the wall
  • Score: -55

12:06pm Wed 26 Mar 14

MsChevious says...

I don't understand his 'safety reasons' for not using the bike lane?! Certainly cyclists aren't required to use them, just like pedestrians aren't required to be on the pavements; but surely by choosing not to use the designated area you are putting yourself in harm's way?

I agreed with blogger85 as well, recumbent cycles are very hard to see unless they have lots of flags attached - they're bloody dangerous, particularly at night or in the rain.
I don't understand his 'safety reasons' for not using the bike lane?! Certainly cyclists aren't required to use them, just like pedestrians aren't required to be on the pavements; but surely by choosing not to use the designated area you are putting yourself in harm's way? I agreed with blogger85 as well, recumbent cycles are very hard to see unless they have lots of flags attached - they're bloody dangerous, particularly at night or in the rain. MsChevious
  • Score: -19

12:22pm Wed 26 Mar 14

BickleyBoy says...

cyclingmikey strikes me as unnecessarily aggressive, my sympathies to Mr Lewis who has been outrageously maligned.
cyclingmikey strikes me as unnecessarily aggressive, my sympathies to Mr Lewis who has been outrageously maligned. BickleyBoy
  • Score: -25

1:00pm Wed 26 Mar 14

franksutton says...

Here we have a segregated cycle lane, which cyclists chose to ignore - but if there was an accident it would always be the car drivers fault

Same as on Sevemoaks Way in Orpington

So cyclists can chose to ride on the road, but car drivers cannot infringe cycle lanes
Here we have a segregated cycle lane, which cyclists chose to ignore - but if there was an accident it would always be the car drivers fault Same as on Sevemoaks Way in Orpington So cyclists can chose to ride on the road, but car drivers cannot infringe cycle lanes franksutton
  • Score: -30

1:09pm Wed 26 Mar 14

PoppyGreenLeaf says...

I walk along Sevenoaks way regularly and the amount of stick cyclists get for cycling along the cycle path whilst kids and mothers with push chairs walk /stand obliviously to the fact they are in the cycle lane and get all huffy when they go past them on said cycle path its no wonder they use the road as its safer then going up and down all the side roads. The cycle path goes through the bus stop up near the railway bridge. I am no cyclist but cycle paths on pavements are NOT a good idea.
I walk along Sevenoaks way regularly and the amount of stick cyclists get for cycling along the cycle path whilst kids and mothers with push chairs walk /stand obliviously to the fact they are in the cycle lane and get all huffy when they go past them on said cycle path its no wonder they use the road as its safer then going up and down all the side roads. The cycle path goes through the bus stop up near the railway bridge. I am no cyclist but cycle paths on pavements are NOT a good idea. PoppyGreenLeaf
  • Score: 92

1:15pm Wed 26 Mar 14

bnorther says...

The vast majority of cycle lanes on Bromley are next to useless tho, particularly if you are a bike commuter doing 15-20mph+.

Those on pavement ones, you will be lucky to do more than 5-8 mph as you have to avoid pedestrians and stop at every junction. The most likely place to have an accident is at one of these junctions, so going with the traffic flow is by far safer. Just because a lane is provided does not mean it is the safest place. A cyclist should ride in the middle of the main lane if they are travelling fast and the roads are narrow/

The cycle lane on the way to Farnborough hospital is so narrow it is dangerous and does not meet the 1.5m design guidance. Its probably about .5m.

Whilst the incident in the video is not horrific, it is the overtaking cars responsibility to ensure they have enough room, and it is safe to so so. Refer to the highway code if you are unsure, a cars width is what you need to give. You cannot do this if there is a traffic island up ahead.

And finally, everyone get on a bit more and show respect. Cyclists stop at reads etc. Car drivers put your phones down.

Car drivers, next time you are in a jam, look in front of you. What is slowing you down? More often than not its another car/bus/van etc. Cyclist are rarely the cause of any delay more than a few seconds. So everyone - be patient.
The vast majority of cycle lanes on Bromley are next to useless tho, particularly if you are a bike commuter doing 15-20mph+. Those on pavement ones, you will be lucky to do more than 5-8 mph as you have to avoid pedestrians and stop at every junction. The most likely place to have an accident is at one of these junctions, so going with the traffic flow is by far safer. Just because a lane is provided does not mean it is the safest place. A cyclist should ride in the middle of the main lane if they are travelling fast and the roads are narrow/ The cycle lane on the way to Farnborough hospital is so narrow it is dangerous and does not meet the 1.5m design guidance. Its probably about .5m. Whilst the incident in the video is not horrific, it is the overtaking cars responsibility to ensure they have enough room, and it is safe to so so. Refer to the highway code if you are unsure, a cars width is what you need to give. You cannot do this if there is a traffic island up ahead. And finally, everyone get on a bit more and show respect. Cyclists stop at reads etc. Car drivers put your phones down. Car drivers, next time you are in a jam, look in front of you. What is slowing you down? More often than not its another car/bus/van etc. Cyclist are rarely the cause of any delay more than a few seconds. So everyone - be patient. bnorther
  • Score: 102

1:59pm Wed 26 Mar 14

reasonable75 says...

Have to stop at junctions and avoid pedestrians - how terrible

Next we'll expect cyclists to stop at red lights and pedestrian crossings
Have to stop at junctions and avoid pedestrians - how terrible Next we'll expect cyclists to stop at red lights and pedestrian crossings reasonable75
  • Score: -52

2:08pm Wed 26 Mar 14

bnorther says...

reasonable75 wrote:
Have to stop at junctions and avoid pedestrians - how terrible

Next we'll expect cyclists to stop at red lights and pedestrian crossings
Equally - how terrible that a car dive has to wait a few seconds for pass a cyclist.

And next we will expect motorist to not use mobile phones and speed.

This argument is not about conflict and who does what wrong. All road uses do things wrong, look around. But its not cyclist who cause congestion. Its motorists.
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: Have to stop at junctions and avoid pedestrians - how terrible Next we'll expect cyclists to stop at red lights and pedestrian crossings[/p][/quote]Equally - how terrible that a car dive has to wait a few seconds for pass a cyclist. And next we will expect motorist to not use mobile phones and speed. This argument is not about conflict and who does what wrong. All road uses do things wrong, look around. But its not cyclist who cause congestion. Its motorists. bnorther
  • Score: 73

2:22pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

"I'm annoyed he's put this thing about me on YouTube."

Perhaps cyclingmikey is annoyed you feel the need to run to the local paper Lewis. I guess you'll be loosing more sleep over the coming nights over all this attention you have now bought on yourself.

Or is all the attention what you were really seeking ?
"I'm annoyed he's put this thing about me on YouTube." Perhaps cyclingmikey is annoyed you feel the need to run to the local paper Lewis. I guess you'll be loosing more sleep over the coming nights over all this attention you have now bought on yourself. Or is all the attention what you were really seeking ? Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -46

2:29pm Wed 26 Mar 14

bnorther says...

"I think is an infringement of my privacy."

Robert, I have some news for you. It's in a public place that it has been videoed, so there is no expectation of privacy, and it is perfectly legal. Your name was not published on the video either.

Now, however, everyone in Bromley knows that it was you, as you voluntarily went to the local paper and gave your name for publication, and the road you live on.

So how can you use the argument that it was an infringement of your privacy when you are happy for the story, your name, and most of your address to appear in the paper?
"I think is an infringement of my privacy." Robert, I have some news for you. It's in a public place that it has been videoed, so there is no expectation of privacy, and it is perfectly legal. Your name was not published on the video either. Now, however, everyone in Bromley knows that it was you, as you voluntarily went to the local paper and gave your name for publication, and the road you live on. So how can you use the argument that it was an infringement of your privacy when you are happy for the story, your name, and most of your address to appear in the paper? bnorther
  • Score: 92

2:39pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

bnorther wrote:
"I think is an infringement of my privacy."

Robert, I have some news for you. It's in a public place that it has been videoed, so there is no expectation of privacy, and it is perfectly legal. Your name was not published on the video either.

Now, however, everyone in Bromley knows that it was you, as you voluntarily went to the local paper and gave your name for publication, and the road you live on.

So how can you use the argument that it was an infringement of your privacy when you are happy for the story, your name, and most of your address to appear in the paper?
Exactly you have nailed it.
[quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: "I think is an infringement of my privacy." Robert, I have some news for you. It's in a public place that it has been videoed, so there is no expectation of privacy, and it is perfectly legal. Your name was not published on the video either. Now, however, everyone in Bromley knows that it was you, as you voluntarily went to the local paper and gave your name for publication, and the road you live on. So how can you use the argument that it was an infringement of your privacy when you are happy for the story, your name, and most of your address to appear in the paper?[/p][/quote]Exactly you have nailed it. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -25

3:12pm Wed 26 Mar 14

the wall says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
bnorther wrote:
"I think is an infringement of my privacy."

Robert, I have some news for you. It's in a public place that it has been videoed, so there is no expectation of privacy, and it is perfectly legal. Your name was not published on the video either.

Now, however, everyone in Bromley knows that it was you, as you voluntarily went to the local paper and gave your name for publication, and the road you live on.

So how can you use the argument that it was an infringement of your privacy when you are happy for the story, your name, and most of your address to appear in the paper?
Exactly you have nailed it.
So with have a pair of twunts.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: "I think is an infringement of my privacy." Robert, I have some news for you. It's in a public place that it has been videoed, so there is no expectation of privacy, and it is perfectly legal. Your name was not published on the video either. Now, however, everyone in Bromley knows that it was you, as you voluntarily went to the local paper and gave your name for publication, and the road you live on. So how can you use the argument that it was an infringement of your privacy when you are happy for the story, your name, and most of your address to appear in the paper?[/p][/quote]Exactly you have nailed it.[/p][/quote]So with have a pair of twunts. the wall
  • Score: -61

3:46pm Wed 26 Mar 14

wrightrkuk says...

I have no time for the driver's bizarre view that it's somehow an infringement of his rights to have the video published. He was in a public place and behaving poorly.

I'm alarmed, however, at this website's specific request to readers whether they've had an altercation with this cyclist. That seems to me to be at least potentially a breach of section four part one of the Press Complaints Commission's editors' code, which says this:

i) Journalists must not engage in intimidation, harassment or persistent pursuit.

Did you consider that before you asked readers to report experiences with this individual, who appears to have done nothing at all wrong?
I have no time for the driver's bizarre view that it's somehow an infringement of his rights to have the video published. He was in a public place and behaving poorly. I'm alarmed, however, at this website's specific request to readers whether they've had an altercation with this cyclist. That seems to me to be at least potentially a breach of section four part one of the Press Complaints Commission's editors' code, which says this: i) Journalists must not engage in intimidation, harassment or persistent pursuit. Did you consider that before you asked readers to report experiences with this individual, who appears to have done nothing at all wrong? wrightrkuk
  • Score: 62

4:09pm Wed 26 Mar 14

the wall says...

Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'.

It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.
Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'. It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming. the wall
  • Score: -45

4:26pm Wed 26 Mar 14

bnorther says...

the wall wrote:
Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'.

It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.
I'm interested on which videos his he breaking the rules?
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'. It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.[/p][/quote]I'm interested on which videos his he breaking the rules? bnorther
  • Score: 31

4:38pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Mushymat says...

I assume those saying he only has himself to blame for not being in the cycle lane (not a legal requirement) are the same sort of people who excuse rape because "she wore something sexy"?
I assume those saying he only has himself to blame for not being in the cycle lane (not a legal requirement) are the same sort of people who excuse rape because "she wore something sexy"? Mushymat
  • Score: 27

4:40pm Wed 26 Mar 14

tomandlola says...

the wall wrote:
Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'.

It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.
I'm sure Mikey is delighted that you have spent so much time watching his videos, It's just a shame that you haven't watched them very carefully. His roadcraft is far better than many of the drivers he videos.
By the way, when he shouts "Give it some welly" the boy on the bmx is on the road not the pavement. It's always good to get your facts right.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'. It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Mikey is delighted that you have spent so much time watching his videos, It's just a shame that you haven't watched them very carefully. His roadcraft is far better than many of the drivers he videos. By the way, when he shouts "Give it some welly" the boy on the bmx is on the road not the pavement. It's always good to get your facts right. tomandlola
  • Score: 31

4:43pm Wed 26 Mar 14

the wall says...

bnorther wrote:
the wall wrote:
Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'.

It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.
I'm interested on which videos his he breaking the rules?
905 to pick from, so knock yourself out.

This is one of them. See if you can spot the rules broken?

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=fAKpooFEQ
lE

There is also the 'do as I say not as I do' attitude. In one of the videos there is a warning about using mobile phones/ concentrating on two things at once. Yet here with have mikey doing two things at once. One rule for one and one for another.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=EoeOoJAiV
bs


The road is a share space.
[quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'. It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.[/p][/quote]I'm interested on which videos his he breaking the rules?[/p][/quote]905 to pick from, so knock yourself out. This is one of them. See if you can spot the rules broken? http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=fAKpooFEQ lE There is also the 'do as I say not as I do' attitude. In one of the videos there is a warning about using mobile phones/ concentrating on two things at once. Yet here with have mikey doing two things at once. One rule for one and one for another. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=EoeOoJAiV bs The road is a share space. the wall
  • Score: -43

4:43pm Wed 26 Mar 14

hayeslane says...

Seems to me there's plenty of room for both parties and waving your hands around really doesn't help anyone.
Seems to me there's plenty of room for both parties and waving your hands around really doesn't help anyone. hayeslane
  • Score: -18

4:44pm Wed 26 Mar 14

the wall says...

tomandlola wrote:
the wall wrote:
Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'.

It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.
I'm sure Mikey is delighted that you have spent so much time watching his videos, It's just a shame that you haven't watched them very carefully. His roadcraft is far better than many of the drivers he videos.
By the way, when he shouts "Give it some welly" the boy on the bmx is on the road not the pavement. It's always good to get your facts right.
There are two people on bikes.... what was that about 'It's always good to get your facts right'???????
[quote][p][bold]tomandlola[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'. It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Mikey is delighted that you have spent so much time watching his videos, It's just a shame that you haven't watched them very carefully. His roadcraft is far better than many of the drivers he videos. By the way, when he shouts "Give it some welly" the boy on the bmx is on the road not the pavement. It's always good to get your facts right.[/p][/quote]There are two people on bikes.... what was that about 'It's always good to get your facts right'??????? the wall
  • Score: -49

4:45pm Wed 26 Mar 14

the wall says...

Mushymat wrote:
I assume those saying he only has himself to blame for not being in the cycle lane (not a legal requirement) are the same sort of people who excuse rape because "she wore something sexy"?
Oh please do one will ya!
[quote][p][bold]Mushymat[/bold] wrote: I assume those saying he only has himself to blame for not being in the cycle lane (not a legal requirement) are the same sort of people who excuse rape because "she wore something sexy"?[/p][/quote]Oh please do one will ya! the wall
  • Score: -46

5:00pm Wed 26 Mar 14

tomandlola says...

BickleyBoy wrote:
cyclingmikey strikes me as unnecessarily aggressive, my sympathies to Mr Lewis who has been outrageously maligned.
If you actually bothered to watch the video you are commenting on then you will see that Mr Lewis is the one being "unnecessarily aggressive". All the other drivers managed to overtake Mikey safely and Mr Lewis was the only one being a threat to a vulnerable road user in his 1.5 tonne car.
I think Mr Lewis should google "The Streisand Effect" before he goes complaining to the press and he should be maligned over the standard of his driving in this instance.
[quote][p][bold]BickleyBoy[/bold] wrote: cyclingmikey strikes me as unnecessarily aggressive, my sympathies to Mr Lewis who has been outrageously maligned.[/p][/quote]If you actually bothered to watch the video you are commenting on then you will see that Mr Lewis is the one being "unnecessarily aggressive". All the other drivers managed to overtake Mikey safely and Mr Lewis was the only one being a threat to a vulnerable road user in his 1.5 tonne car. I think Mr Lewis should google "The Streisand Effect" before he goes complaining to the press and he should be maligned over the standard of his driving in this instance. tomandlola
  • Score: 28

5:09pm Wed 26 Mar 14

bnorther says...

tomandlola wrote:
BickleyBoy wrote:
cyclingmikey strikes me as unnecessarily aggressive, my sympathies to Mr Lewis who has been outrageously maligned.
If you actually bothered to watch the video you are commenting on then you will see that Mr Lewis is the one being "unnecessarily aggressive". All the other drivers managed to overtake Mikey safely and Mr Lewis was the only one being a threat to a vulnerable road user in his 1.5 tonne car.
I think Mr Lewis should google "The Streisand Effect" before he goes complaining to the press and he should be maligned over the standard of his driving in this instance.
Not just the Streisand Effect, but many insurance companies are now building profiles of their drivers using Social Media and the WWW etc. Mr Lewis has potentially just highlighted his driving standards and attitude to his insurance company now.
[quote][p][bold]tomandlola[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BickleyBoy[/bold] wrote: cyclingmikey strikes me as unnecessarily aggressive, my sympathies to Mr Lewis who has been outrageously maligned.[/p][/quote]If you actually bothered to watch the video you are commenting on then you will see that Mr Lewis is the one being "unnecessarily aggressive". All the other drivers managed to overtake Mikey safely and Mr Lewis was the only one being a threat to a vulnerable road user in his 1.5 tonne car. I think Mr Lewis should google "The Streisand Effect" before he goes complaining to the press and he should be maligned over the standard of his driving in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not just the Streisand Effect, but many insurance companies are now building profiles of their drivers using Social Media and the WWW etc. Mr Lewis has potentially just highlighted his driving standards and attitude to his insurance company now. bnorther
  • Score: 26

5:13pm Wed 26 Mar 14

tomandlola says...

the wall wrote:
tomandlola wrote:
the wall wrote:
Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'.

It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.
I'm sure Mikey is delighted that you have spent so much time watching his videos, It's just a shame that you haven't watched them very carefully. His roadcraft is far better than many of the drivers he videos.
By the way, when he shouts "Give it some welly" the boy on the bmx is on the road not the pavement. It's always good to get your facts right.
There are two people on bikes.... what was that about 'It's always good to get your facts right'???????
The boy he was shouting at was on the road.......
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomandlola[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'. It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Mikey is delighted that you have spent so much time watching his videos, It's just a shame that you haven't watched them very carefully. His roadcraft is far better than many of the drivers he videos. By the way, when he shouts "Give it some welly" the boy on the bmx is on the road not the pavement. It's always good to get your facts right.[/p][/quote]There are two people on bikes.... what was that about 'It's always good to get your facts right'???????[/p][/quote]The boy he was shouting at was on the road....... tomandlola
  • Score: 14

5:27pm Wed 26 Mar 14

the wall says...

tomandlola wrote:
the wall wrote:
tomandlola wrote:
the wall wrote:
Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'.

It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.
I'm sure Mikey is delighted that you have spent so much time watching his videos, It's just a shame that you haven't watched them very carefully. His roadcraft is far better than many of the drivers he videos.
By the way, when he shouts "Give it some welly" the boy on the bmx is on the road not the pavement. It's always good to get your facts right.
There are two people on bikes.... what was that about 'It's always good to get your facts right'???????
The boy he was shouting at was on the road.......
Wrong. They are both on the road and mikeys words are come on 'guys' (Plural) give it some welly. One of the lads (in blue) then goes up on to the pavement. Also the video is called 'Give it some welly lads' (Plural).
[quote][p][bold]tomandlola[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomandlola[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'. It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Mikey is delighted that you have spent so much time watching his videos, It's just a shame that you haven't watched them very carefully. His roadcraft is far better than many of the drivers he videos. By the way, when he shouts "Give it some welly" the boy on the bmx is on the road not the pavement. It's always good to get your facts right.[/p][/quote]There are two people on bikes.... what was that about 'It's always good to get your facts right'???????[/p][/quote]The boy he was shouting at was on the road.......[/p][/quote]Wrong. They are both on the road and mikeys words are come on 'guys' (Plural) give it some welly. One of the lads (in blue) then goes up on to the pavement. Also the video is called 'Give it some welly lads' (Plural). the wall
  • Score: -40

5:45pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Stretch1976 says...

It's all getting a bit silly now!

I think if Robert Lewis of Southborough Lane was annoyed and upset at being a YouTube hit then Robert Lewis of Southborough Lane should have thought twice before going to the media with it.

This has only resulted in more YouTube views and more coverage from this News Shopper story.
It's all getting a bit silly now! I think if Robert Lewis of Southborough Lane was annoyed and upset at being a YouTube hit then Robert Lewis of Southborough Lane should have thought twice before going to the media with it. This has only resulted in more YouTube views and more coverage from this News Shopper story. Stretch1976
  • Score: 30

5:52pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Ferdy54 says...

What a selfish idiot that bloke is on a so called bike!!

So councils are wasting thousands of pounds making cycle lanes that a minority of people want and idiots like him don't even use them!!! The guy in the car is right, he should get on the cycle lane. Looks perfectly ok.

I assume he's one of the many colour blind cyclists around that don't know that the top light on traffic lights are red and means stop!!!

I feel sorry for the driver being persecuted by this maniac. I hope he can find some way of suing the idiot cyclist. I think the video can be reported to You Tube to be taken off there.
What a selfish idiot that bloke is on a so called bike!! So councils are wasting thousands of pounds making cycle lanes that a minority of people want and idiots like him don't even use them!!! The guy in the car is right, he should get on the cycle lane. Looks perfectly ok. I assume he's one of the many colour blind cyclists around that don't know that the top light on traffic lights are red and means stop!!! I feel sorry for the driver being persecuted by this maniac. I hope he can find some way of suing the idiot cyclist. I think the video can be reported to You Tube to be taken off there. Ferdy54
  • Score: -41

6:11pm Wed 26 Mar 14

london10 says...

Cyclist was in the right, he doesnt by law have to use the cycle lane and was on a recumbent bike , so have 2 wheels at the back ans some have 1. either way they are difficult to use especially in a cycle lane.

Even if people think the cyclist is a pain in the backside, the driver was wrong to try and over take where he did. Hes shouldve waited, and by law the cyclist can use a cam.
Cyclist was in the right, he doesnt by law have to use the cycle lane and was on a recumbent bike , so have 2 wheels at the back ans some have 1. either way they are difficult to use especially in a cycle lane. Even if people think the cyclist is a pain in the backside, the driver was wrong to try and over take where he did. Hes shouldve waited, and by law the cyclist can use a cam. london10
  • Score: 33

6:14pm Wed 26 Mar 14

bnorther says...

Ferdy54 wrote:
What a selfish idiot that bloke is on a so called bike!!

So councils are wasting thousands of pounds making cycle lanes that a minority of people want and idiots like him don't even use them!!! The guy in the car is right, he should get on the cycle lane. Looks perfectly ok.

I assume he's one of the many colour blind cyclists around that don't know that the top light on traffic lights are red and means stop!!!

I feel sorry for the driver being persecuted by this maniac. I hope he can find some way of suing the idiot cyclist. I think the video can be reported to You Tube to be taken off there.
Ohh please, please do let us know which law the cyclist has broken here that means he could be sued?
[quote][p][bold]Ferdy54[/bold] wrote: What a selfish idiot that bloke is on a so called bike!! So councils are wasting thousands of pounds making cycle lanes that a minority of people want and idiots like him don't even use them!!! The guy in the car is right, he should get on the cycle lane. Looks perfectly ok. I assume he's one of the many colour blind cyclists around that don't know that the top light on traffic lights are red and means stop!!! I feel sorry for the driver being persecuted by this maniac. I hope he can find some way of suing the idiot cyclist. I think the video can be reported to You Tube to be taken off there.[/p][/quote]Ohh please, please do let us know which law the cyclist has broken here that means he could be sued? bnorther
  • Score: 24

6:27pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Mushymat says...

Ferdy54 wrote:
What a selfish idiot that bloke is on a so called bike!!

So councils are wasting thousands of pounds making cycle lanes that a minority of people want and idiots like him don't even use them!!! The guy in the car is right, he should get on the cycle lane. Looks perfectly ok.

I assume he's one of the many colour blind cyclists around that don't know that the top light on traffic lights are red and means stop!!!

I feel sorry for the driver being persecuted by this maniac. I hope he can find some way of suing the idiot cyclist. I think the video can be reported to You Tube to be taken off there.
People don't use cycle lanes because there are many problems with them. The main one is they are not joined up (like roads) or they cause problems when wanting to turn right across traffic (unlike roads) Point is, if motorists had to put up with such inconveniences they wouldn't use them either.

As for your red light jumping comment. I can assume you believe in guilt by association?. I therefore assume you speed, tailgate, use your phone, act and drive aggressively. Is that right or fair that I make that assumption?
[quote][p][bold]Ferdy54[/bold] wrote: What a selfish idiot that bloke is on a so called bike!! So councils are wasting thousands of pounds making cycle lanes that a minority of people want and idiots like him don't even use them!!! The guy in the car is right, he should get on the cycle lane. Looks perfectly ok. I assume he's one of the many colour blind cyclists around that don't know that the top light on traffic lights are red and means stop!!! I feel sorry for the driver being persecuted by this maniac. I hope he can find some way of suing the idiot cyclist. I think the video can be reported to You Tube to be taken off there.[/p][/quote]People don't use cycle lanes because there are many problems with them. The main one is they are not joined up (like roads) or they cause problems when wanting to turn right across traffic (unlike roads) Point is, if motorists had to put up with such inconveniences they wouldn't use them either. As for your red light jumping comment. I can assume you believe in guilt by association?. I therefore assume you speed, tailgate, use your phone, act and drive aggressively. Is that right or fair that I make that assumption? Mushymat
  • Score: 29

6:34pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Mushymat says...

Oh, anyone who says cyclist or recumbent are hard to see are driving to fast or to close to the car in front.

It's shameful that some look to blame others for faults of their own making.


And before anyone assumes I'm wrong. I can tell you with absolute certainty that if you use the excuse "I just didn't see them" in any case involving a collision with a cyclist/pedestrians the book will be thrown at you, as it's as good as an admitting you're to blame.
Oh, anyone who says cyclist or recumbent are hard to see are driving to fast or to close to the car in front. It's shameful that some look to blame others for faults of their own making. And before anyone assumes I'm wrong. I can tell you with absolute certainty that if you use the excuse "I just didn't see them" in any case involving a collision with a cyclist/pedestrians the book will be thrown at you, as it's as good as an admitting you're to blame. Mushymat
  • Score: 21

6:40pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ADDIKS181 says...

The comments about cyclists using cycle lanes are all very valid so long as the cyclist is riding a small pink bicycle with stabilisers, ribbons and plenty of flags! Cycle lanes on roads are 1 thing but the ridiculous paintings on the pavements are as much use as a marshmallow aeroplane. Pedestrians are oblivious to their presence and wander in and out of them aimlessly. Even if the cycle lane is painted a separate colour there is no way that this will dissuade a 3 year old from running into it and becoming a target for the nasty cyclist that is doing 15 or 20 mph on the part of the highway that is made especially for them. This is without even mentioning the fact that they appear to be a dumping ground for gig mess and broken glass. Until the local authorities and the GLA properly invest in cycling, these situations will persist. Bicycle lanes need to be properly segregated and designed with modern bikes in mind, which do travel at speed and so should not be mixed with pedestrians. There is no doubt that a bike travelling at 20mph that is in collision with a child on a mixed pedestrian / cycle way, could end up with a fatality. So yes, I can see why the subject of this story was not using the lane, for safety reasons. The difficulty is that too many drivers sit in that metal box of theirs, too idle to go out peddling themselves, and never give a thought as to why a cyclist is doing what they are doing. Then again, when so many cyclists go belting through red lights and ride like complete half whits, it is little surprise. We cyclists will never fully have the respect of the motorist until we fully respect the rules of the road (cycle lanes on pavements excluded naturally)
The comments about cyclists using cycle lanes are all very valid so long as the cyclist is riding a small pink bicycle with stabilisers, ribbons and plenty of flags! Cycle lanes on roads are 1 thing but the ridiculous paintings on the pavements are as much use as a marshmallow aeroplane. Pedestrians are oblivious to their presence and wander in and out of them aimlessly. Even if the cycle lane is painted a separate colour there is no way that this will dissuade a 3 year old from running into it and becoming a target for the nasty cyclist that is doing 15 or 20 mph on the part of the highway that is made especially for them. This is without even mentioning the fact that they appear to be a dumping ground for gig mess and broken glass. Until the local authorities and the GLA properly invest in cycling, these situations will persist. Bicycle lanes need to be properly segregated and designed with modern bikes in mind, which do travel at speed and so should not be mixed with pedestrians. There is no doubt that a bike travelling at 20mph that is in collision with a child on a mixed pedestrian / cycle way, could end up with a fatality. So yes, I can see why the subject of this story was not using the lane, for safety reasons. The difficulty is that too many drivers sit in that metal box of theirs, too idle to go out peddling themselves, and never give a thought as to why a cyclist is doing what they are doing. Then again, when so many cyclists go belting through red lights and ride like complete half whits, it is little surprise. We cyclists will never fully have the respect of the motorist until we fully respect the rules of the road (cycle lanes on pavements excluded naturally) ADDIKS181
  • Score: 18

8:37pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Slonik says...

I suggest car drivers get hold of a dashcam with which they can record the antics of some of these lunatics and protect themselves in the event of a legal dispute. The cycle-mafia have long exploited the fact that they are hard to identify and call to account whereas drivers can be easily traced via headcam footage. When footage of the stunts they like to pull appears on YouTube, we'll all be able to see just how appalling some of their behaviour is.
I suggest car drivers get hold of a dashcam with which they can record the antics of some of these lunatics and protect themselves in the event of a legal dispute. The cycle-mafia have long exploited the fact that they are hard to identify and call to account whereas drivers can be easily traced via headcam footage. When footage of the stunts they like to pull appears on YouTube, we'll all be able to see just how appalling some of their behaviour is. Slonik
  • Score: -15

8:45pm Wed 26 Mar 14

downfader says...

I'd like to know why motorists like Mr Lewis think they can:
- ignore well known hand signals (does he also overtake other drivers who are signalling right?)?
- Overtake where the Highway Code specifically states it is unsafe to do so (pinch points)
- "police" cyclists themselves and dictate new rules out of thin air? The Highway Code ITSELF actually says "use the road" if your speed is fast - Official Department for Transport guidelines state if you're riding above 15mph this is unsafe for sharing paths with pedestrians and you should be on the road.

If Mr Lewis walked along such a path and a rider came past at this speed he would be apoplectic.
I'd like to know why motorists like Mr Lewis think they can: - ignore well known hand signals (does he also overtake other drivers who are signalling right?)? - Overtake where the Highway Code specifically states it is unsafe to do so (pinch points) - "police" cyclists themselves and dictate new rules out of thin air? The Highway Code ITSELF actually says "use the road" if your speed is fast - Official Department for Transport guidelines state if you're riding above 15mph this is unsafe for sharing paths with pedestrians and you should be on the road. If Mr Lewis walked along such a path and a rider came past at this speed he would be apoplectic. downfader
  • Score: 23

9:26pm Wed 26 Mar 14

lewistucket says...

Slonik wrote:
I suggest car drivers get hold of a dashcam with which they can record the antics of some of these lunatics and protect themselves in the event of a legal dispute. The cycle-mafia have long exploited the fact that they are hard to identify and call to account whereas drivers can be easily traced via headcam footage. When footage of the stunts they like to pull appears on YouTube, we'll all be able to see just how appalling some of their behaviour is.
So you've never seen the silly cyclists series on YouTube then, which is pretty much what you describe.

That's edited by another camera carrying cyclist, because unlike you their interest isn't tribal, it's about bad road users of any kind.
[quote][p][bold]Slonik[/bold] wrote: I suggest car drivers get hold of a dashcam with which they can record the antics of some of these lunatics and protect themselves in the event of a legal dispute. The cycle-mafia have long exploited the fact that they are hard to identify and call to account whereas drivers can be easily traced via headcam footage. When footage of the stunts they like to pull appears on YouTube, we'll all be able to see just how appalling some of their behaviour is.[/p][/quote]So you've never seen the silly cyclists series on YouTube then, which is pretty much what you describe. That's edited by another camera carrying cyclist, because unlike you their interest isn't tribal, it's about bad road users of any kind. lewistucket
  • Score: 22

10:43pm Wed 26 Mar 14

mainman says...

this bloke should get off and milk it. in the park
this bloke should get off and milk it. in the park mainman
  • Score: -19

10:43pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Stop_Whining says...

All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk. Stop_Whining
  • Score: -26

10:53pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

I know its only Wednesday ( almost Thursday) but I'd like to nominate this weeks Newsshopper Darwin Award for Twunt of the week to Mister Bob Lewis.

A little roll on the drums maestro if you please and .........

Da Dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhh.
I know its only Wednesday ( almost Thursday) but I'd like to nominate this weeks Newsshopper Darwin Award for Twunt of the week to Mister Bob Lewis. A little roll on the drums maestro if you please and ......... Da Dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhh. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -19

11:29pm Wed 26 Mar 14

reasonable75 says...

Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Just wait for the flood of comments about how cyclists do pay taxes, they're entitled to ride anywhere they want etc etc
[quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Just wait for the flood of comments about how cyclists do pay taxes, they're entitled to ride anywhere they want etc etc reasonable75
  • Score: -22

11:32pm Wed 26 Mar 14

lewistucket says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
I know its only Wednesday ( almost Thursday) but I'd like to nominate this weeks Newsshopper Darwin Award for Twunt of the week to Mister Bob Lewis.

A little roll on the drums maestro if you please and .........

Da Dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hhh.
And a Pullitzer for Mr Patrick Grafton-Green, for breaking this exclusive story of a driver who was upset.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: I know its only Wednesday ( almost Thursday) but I'd like to nominate this weeks Newsshopper Darwin Award for Twunt of the week to Mister Bob Lewis. A little roll on the drums maestro if you please and ......... Da Dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhh.[/p][/quote]And a Pullitzer for Mr Patrick Grafton-Green, for breaking this exclusive story of a driver who was upset. lewistucket
  • Score: 9

6:20am Thu 27 Mar 14

Dr. Nick says...

Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Doh! "Road Tax" .. here we go again... lol

It never takes long does it :)
[quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Doh! "Road Tax" .. here we go again... lol It never takes long does it :) Dr. Nick
  • Score: 18

7:58am Thu 27 Mar 14

PaulErith says...

I find most cyclists to be a real pest. They don't stick to the laws and then moan about cars.
I find most cyclists to be a real pest. They don't stick to the laws and then moan about cars. PaulErith
  • Score: -21

8:13am Thu 27 Mar 14

Tim Sowter says...

reasonable75 wrote:
Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Just wait for the flood of comments about how cyclists do pay taxes, they're entitled to ride anywhere they want etc etc
I assume you don't drive a Toyota Prius then?
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Just wait for the flood of comments about how cyclists do pay taxes, they're entitled to ride anywhere they want etc etc[/p][/quote]I assume you don't drive a Toyota Prius then? Tim Sowter
  • Score: 14

8:15am Thu 27 Mar 14

Tim Sowter says...

franksutton wrote:
Here we have a segregated cycle lane, which cyclists chose to ignore - but if there was an accident it would always be the car drivers fault

Same as on Sevemoaks Way in Orpington

So cyclists can chose to ride on the road, but car drivers cannot infringe cycle lanes
Unfortunately this is one of the most dangerous and badly designed cycle lanes anywhere and most cyclists consider it safer not to use it. Also it is regularly used by Topps Tiles as their loading bay
[quote][p][bold]franksutton[/bold] wrote: Here we have a segregated cycle lane, which cyclists chose to ignore - but if there was an accident it would always be the car drivers fault Same as on Sevemoaks Way in Orpington So cyclists can chose to ride on the road, but car drivers cannot infringe cycle lanes[/p][/quote]Unfortunately this is one of the most dangerous and badly designed cycle lanes anywhere and most cyclists consider it safer not to use it. Also it is regularly used by Topps Tiles as their loading bay Tim Sowter
  • Score: 35

8:29am Thu 27 Mar 14

Tim Sowter says...

bnorther wrote:
The vast majority of cycle lanes on Bromley are next to useless tho, particularly if you are a bike commuter doing 15-20mph+.

Those on pavement ones, you will be lucky to do more than 5-8 mph as you have to avoid pedestrians and stop at every junction. The most likely place to have an accident is at one of these junctions, so going with the traffic flow is by far safer. Just because a lane is provided does not mean it is the safest place. A cyclist should ride in the middle of the main lane if they are travelling fast and the roads are narrow/

The cycle lane on the way to Farnborough hospital is so narrow it is dangerous and does not meet the 1.5m design guidance. Its probably about .5m.

Whilst the incident in the video is not horrific, it is the overtaking cars responsibility to ensure they have enough room, and it is safe to so so. Refer to the highway code if you are unsure, a cars width is what you need to give. You cannot do this if there is a traffic island up ahead.

And finally, everyone get on a bit more and show respect. Cyclists stop at reads etc. Car drivers put your phones down.

Car drivers, next time you are in a jam, look in front of you. What is slowing you down? More often than not its another car/bus/van etc. Cyclist are rarely the cause of any delay more than a few seconds. So everyone - be patient.
Absolutely spot on. I could add that the cycle lane that takes you round the roundabout by the Ambulance Station is lethal as it takes cyclists out of the line of sight of drivers, and then once you are past the roundabout there is no cycle lane and you are forced to ride in a narrow section of road where most vehicles do 40mph and there is absolutely no space for them to overtake. The problem here is badly designed cycle lanes creating conflict
[quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: The vast majority of cycle lanes on Bromley are next to useless tho, particularly if you are a bike commuter doing 15-20mph+. Those on pavement ones, you will be lucky to do more than 5-8 mph as you have to avoid pedestrians and stop at every junction. The most likely place to have an accident is at one of these junctions, so going with the traffic flow is by far safer. Just because a lane is provided does not mean it is the safest place. A cyclist should ride in the middle of the main lane if they are travelling fast and the roads are narrow/ The cycle lane on the way to Farnborough hospital is so narrow it is dangerous and does not meet the 1.5m design guidance. Its probably about .5m. Whilst the incident in the video is not horrific, it is the overtaking cars responsibility to ensure they have enough room, and it is safe to so so. Refer to the highway code if you are unsure, a cars width is what you need to give. You cannot do this if there is a traffic island up ahead. And finally, everyone get on a bit more and show respect. Cyclists stop at reads etc. Car drivers put your phones down. Car drivers, next time you are in a jam, look in front of you. What is slowing you down? More often than not its another car/bus/van etc. Cyclist are rarely the cause of any delay more than a few seconds. So everyone - be patient.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. I could add that the cycle lane that takes you round the roundabout by the Ambulance Station is lethal as it takes cyclists out of the line of sight of drivers, and then once you are past the roundabout there is no cycle lane and you are forced to ride in a narrow section of road where most vehicles do 40mph and there is absolutely no space for them to overtake. The problem here is badly designed cycle lanes creating conflict Tim Sowter
  • Score: 20

9:32am Thu 27 Mar 14

bnorther says...

Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Even if the "Road Tax" argument was valid (which if you do any form of checking isn't), would the amount you pay dictate your priority?

If so, you would have to give way to all buses and trucks. Any 4x4 that had a bigger engine would have priority over any smaller car. And if you had an electric car - forget it. Any rich Tory bigwig (assuming they pay taxes, big assumption I agree!) would have priority over anyone in a normal job, as they pay more for the upkeep.

Most road funds come out of general taxation and council tax. So anyone who pays more tax and council tax has absolute priority over anyone who does not. What a load of rubbish!
[quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Even if the "Road Tax" argument was valid (which if you do any form of checking isn't), would the amount you pay dictate your priority? If so, you would have to give way to all buses and trucks. Any 4x4 that had a bigger engine would have priority over any smaller car. And if you had an electric car - forget it. Any rich Tory bigwig (assuming they pay taxes, big assumption I agree!) would have priority over anyone in a normal job, as they pay more for the upkeep. Most road funds come out of general taxation and council tax. So anyone who pays more tax and council tax has absolute priority over anyone who does not. What a load of rubbish! bnorther
  • Score: 16

9:58am Thu 27 Mar 14

toomush2drink says...

I drive,ride a scooter and i cycle.

BAD road users everywhere.

Ive lost count of how many numpties ive filmed on their phones in their cars or how many have pulled out in front of me from side roads. All while on my scooter.

Ive also filmed idiot cyclists cutting in front of me as the lights change and im accelerating away.
In my car ive had them come up the indide as im turning left.

As a cyclist ive had numerous car drivers cut me up and shout abuse (funny when you challenge them to stop)

All in all ALL road users need to chill out and realise it isnt their personal road and other people use it too, but if you hit someone on two wheels you have a good chance of causing serious injuries to them.

So car drivers bear that thought or get out on two wheels yourself to see what its like from that roadusers perspective.
I drive,ride a scooter and i cycle. BAD road users everywhere. Ive lost count of how many numpties ive filmed on their phones in their cars or how many have pulled out in front of me from side roads. All while on my scooter. Ive also filmed idiot cyclists cutting in front of me as the lights change and im accelerating away. In my car ive had them come up the indide as im turning left. As a cyclist ive had numerous car drivers cut me up and shout abuse (funny when you challenge them to stop) All in all ALL road users need to chill out and realise it isnt their personal road and other people use it too, but if you hit someone on two wheels you have a good chance of causing serious injuries to them. So car drivers bear that thought or get out on two wheels yourself to see what its like from that roadusers perspective. toomush2drink
  • Score: 20

10:26am Thu 27 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

In all seriousness ( for a change ) both these clowns need to GROW the F UP.

1 ..Bob Lewis you have had more than enough attention for one week, enough is enough.


2..'cyclingmikey BEHAVE. If you get into a collision with a vehicle who gets hurt you or the vehicle ? Get it ?
In all seriousness ( for a change ) both these clowns need to GROW the F UP. 1 ..Bob Lewis you have had more than enough attention for one week, enough is enough. 2..'cyclingmikey BEHAVE. If you get into a collision with a vehicle who gets hurt you or the vehicle ? Get it ? Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -27

10:32am Thu 27 Mar 14

the wall says...

Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Road Tax or Vehicle Excise Duty. Excise duty is based on engine size or CO2 emission rates per kilometre.

So what size engine is in a peddled bike? How about horses they use the road.

'If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk'. Our roads as in the public highway. I have 3 cars 1 motorbike and two bicycles. I pay enough Vehicle Excise Duty.
[quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Road Tax or Vehicle Excise Duty. Excise duty is based on engine size or CO2 emission rates per kilometre. So what size engine is in a peddled bike? How about horses they use the road. 'If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk'. Our roads as in the public highway. I have 3 cars 1 motorbike and two bicycles. I pay enough Vehicle Excise Duty. the wall
  • Score: 18

2:05pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Mushymat says...

PaulErith wrote:
I find most cyclists to be a real pest. They don't stick to the laws and then moan about cars.
Had it occurred to you that maybe those ones not sticking to the law are not the ones moaning about cars?
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: I find most cyclists to be a real pest. They don't stick to the laws and then moan about cars.[/p][/quote]Had it occurred to you that maybe those ones not sticking to the law are not the ones moaning about cars? Mushymat
  • Score: 26

4:12pm Thu 27 Mar 14

flea_in_ear says...

Posting the video on YouTube is a form of bullying. A dispute between two people inviting the public to take sides. I realise there are many bad drivers out there. Unfortunately there seem to be a similar number of appalling cyclists who ignore all rules of the road and who expect everything else on the road which is bigger than them to look after them, and anyone who is frailer than them to hop out the way.

Perhaps a video of the increasing numbers of groups of cyclists preventing anyone from overtaking them for miles, two or three abreast. Or the grinning idiot who overtook a car which had stopped to wait for me as it did not have right of way. The car driver was civil anyway.
Posting the video on YouTube is a form of bullying. A dispute between two people inviting the public to take sides. I realise there are many bad drivers out there. Unfortunately there seem to be a similar number of appalling cyclists who ignore all rules of the road and who expect everything else on the road which is bigger than them to look after them, and anyone who is frailer than them to hop out the way. Perhaps a video of the increasing numbers of groups of cyclists preventing anyone from overtaking them for miles, two or three abreast. Or the grinning idiot who overtook a car which had stopped to wait for me as it did not have right of way. The car driver was civil anyway. flea_in_ear
  • Score: -12

4:17pm Thu 27 Mar 14

flea_in_ear says...

the wall wrote:
Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Road Tax or Vehicle Excise Duty. Excise duty is based on engine size or CO2 emission rates per kilometre.

So what size engine is in a peddled bike? How about horses they use the road.

'If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk'. Our roads as in the public highway. I have 3 cars 1 motorbike and two bicycles. I pay enough Vehicle Excise Duty.
But without paying tax if you have your car on the road you are not insured, and it is illegal to do so. People pay road tax to get their car on the road, and then are held up by a cycling club. The roads are not actually racing tracks. Ramblers and many horseriders will step in as quickly as possible to let traffic pass. So do SOME cyclists. I think the issue is the lack of insurance. Relatively few of the London Boris Bikes have been involved in accidents. I see two possible reasons for this. They are not racing bikes, the rider is seated so that they are looking ahead, not at the ground. A credit card will have been used to pay for them - the bike is expected to come back in reasonable condition, and if it doesn't the person who hired it may be held responsible.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Road Tax or Vehicle Excise Duty. Excise duty is based on engine size or CO2 emission rates per kilometre. So what size engine is in a peddled bike? How about horses they use the road. 'If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk'. Our roads as in the public highway. I have 3 cars 1 motorbike and two bicycles. I pay enough Vehicle Excise Duty.[/p][/quote]But without paying tax if you have your car on the road you are not insured, and it is illegal to do so. People pay road tax to get their car on the road, and then are held up by a cycling club. The roads are not actually racing tracks. Ramblers and many horseriders will step in as quickly as possible to let traffic pass. So do SOME cyclists. I think the issue is the lack of insurance. Relatively few of the London Boris Bikes have been involved in accidents. I see two possible reasons for this. They are not racing bikes, the rider is seated so that they are looking ahead, not at the ground. A credit card will have been used to pay for them - the bike is expected to come back in reasonable condition, and if it doesn't the person who hired it may be held responsible. flea_in_ear
  • Score: -13

5:03pm Thu 27 Mar 14

the wall says...

flea_in_ear wrote:
the wall wrote:
Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Road Tax or Vehicle Excise Duty. Excise duty is based on engine size or CO2 emission rates per kilometre.

So what size engine is in a peddled bike? How about horses they use the road.

'If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk'. Our roads as in the public highway. I have 3 cars 1 motorbike and two bicycles. I pay enough Vehicle Excise Duty.
But without paying tax if you have your car on the road you are not insured, and it is illegal to do so. People pay road tax to get their car on the road, and then are held up by a cycling club. The roads are not actually racing tracks. Ramblers and many horseriders will step in as quickly as possible to let traffic pass. So do SOME cyclists. I think the issue is the lack of insurance. Relatively few of the London Boris Bikes have been involved in accidents. I see two possible reasons for this. They are not racing bikes, the rider is seated so that they are looking ahead, not at the ground. A credit card will have been used to pay for them - the bike is expected to come back in reasonable condition, and if it doesn't the person who hired it may be held responsible.
That is a myth about not being insured.

Excise duty is based on engine size or CO2 emission rates per kilometre depending on the year of the Vehicle.

What size engine does a bicycle have?
[quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Road Tax or Vehicle Excise Duty. Excise duty is based on engine size or CO2 emission rates per kilometre. So what size engine is in a peddled bike? How about horses they use the road. 'If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk'. Our roads as in the public highway. I have 3 cars 1 motorbike and two bicycles. I pay enough Vehicle Excise Duty.[/p][/quote]But without paying tax if you have your car on the road you are not insured, and it is illegal to do so. People pay road tax to get their car on the road, and then are held up by a cycling club. The roads are not actually racing tracks. Ramblers and many horseriders will step in as quickly as possible to let traffic pass. So do SOME cyclists. I think the issue is the lack of insurance. Relatively few of the London Boris Bikes have been involved in accidents. I see two possible reasons for this. They are not racing bikes, the rider is seated so that they are looking ahead, not at the ground. A credit card will have been used to pay for them - the bike is expected to come back in reasonable condition, and if it doesn't the person who hired it may be held responsible.[/p][/quote]That is a myth about not being insured. Excise duty is based on engine size or CO2 emission rates per kilometre depending on the year of the Vehicle. What size engine does a bicycle have? the wall
  • Score: 10

5:49pm Thu 27 Mar 14

biker98 says...

Robert Lewis should be prosecuted for dangerous driving the police have evidence from mikeys camera

How long before another cyclist is MURDERED by a driver who will get off scott free

These people should be BANNED from the road and locked up
Robert Lewis should be prosecuted for dangerous driving the police have evidence from mikeys camera How long before another cyclist is MURDERED by a driver who will get off scott free These people should be BANNED from the road and locked up biker98
  • Score: 4

7:36pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Mushymat says...

flea_in_ear wrote:
the wall wrote:
Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Road Tax or Vehicle Excise Duty. Excise duty is based on engine size or CO2 emission rates per kilometre.

So what size engine is in a peddled bike? How about horses they use the road.

'If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk'. Our roads as in the public highway. I have 3 cars 1 motorbike and two bicycles. I pay enough Vehicle Excise Duty.
But without paying tax if you have your car on the road you are not insured, and it is illegal to do so. People pay road tax to get their car on the road, and then are held up by a cycling club. The roads are not actually racing tracks. Ramblers and many horseriders will step in as quickly as possible to let traffic pass. So do SOME cyclists. I think the issue is the lack of insurance. Relatively few of the London Boris Bikes have been involved in accidents. I see two possible reasons for this. They are not racing bikes, the rider is seated so that they are looking ahead, not at the ground. A credit card will have been used to pay for them - the bike is expected to come back in reasonable condition, and if it doesn't the person who hired it may be held responsible.
No true, many cars are tax free, they simply have a tax disc to make life easier for the police to check the status of the car. The same is not needed for cycles because all cycles are exempt.

But ultimately the road is free to use, it's called the public highway for a reason. And you know if you don't want to pay to use a car don't, you have the option to cycle like everyone else. And that is what makes it fair.

But even if you feel that's not good enough, consider that 90% of adults have access to or own a car. I for example own two. They remain fully pad up with VED yet they hardly get used, so they don't damage the road as much, they don't pollute as much, they don't run the risk of killing someone, they don't cause congestion. In real world terms I pay more than most, and use my cars far far less than most. Do I moan about it? No.

Regarding your comment on insurance. Many/most cyclists are in fact insured via their house hold cover, and those cyclists you see in groups will also be covered via their membership to their club that almost everyone of them will be a member off.

Not that insurance is needed. Fact remains if cars caused as little damage as cycles they would not need to be insured either. Statistics show cars kill and typically right off cars all the time, they literally cause £1000-£10,000+ damage all the time. The most a cyclist does is scratch a door panel. The requirement for costly system to insure every person who owns a bike for the occasional scratch is madness that will never happen. And let's not mistake lack of insurance for lack of responsibility because it's not.

And finally...people with race bikes don't race on public roads. They simply move in groups because it's faster, but it's not racing. Only a small fraction of riders can maintain a speed of 25mph which is lower than most roads speed limits.

The day cyclists start killing in numbers even close to cars do I might start to agree with you, but considering cyclists kill between 0-2 people a year I don't think we are in any danger of that.
[quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Road Tax or Vehicle Excise Duty. Excise duty is based on engine size or CO2 emission rates per kilometre. So what size engine is in a peddled bike? How about horses they use the road. 'If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk'. Our roads as in the public highway. I have 3 cars 1 motorbike and two bicycles. I pay enough Vehicle Excise Duty.[/p][/quote]But without paying tax if you have your car on the road you are not insured, and it is illegal to do so. People pay road tax to get their car on the road, and then are held up by a cycling club. The roads are not actually racing tracks. Ramblers and many horseriders will step in as quickly as possible to let traffic pass. So do SOME cyclists. I think the issue is the lack of insurance. Relatively few of the London Boris Bikes have been involved in accidents. I see two possible reasons for this. They are not racing bikes, the rider is seated so that they are looking ahead, not at the ground. A credit card will have been used to pay for them - the bike is expected to come back in reasonable condition, and if it doesn't the person who hired it may be held responsible.[/p][/quote]No true, many cars are tax free, they simply have a tax disc to make life easier for the police to check the status of the car. The same is not needed for cycles because all cycles are exempt. But ultimately the road is free to use, it's called the public highway for a reason. And you know if you don't want to pay to use a car don't, you have the option to cycle like everyone else. And that is what makes it fair. But even if you feel that's not good enough, consider that 90% of adults have access to or own a car. I for example own two. They remain fully pad up with VED yet they hardly get used, so they don't damage the road as much, they don't pollute as much, they don't run the risk of killing someone, they don't cause congestion. In real world terms I pay more than most, and use my cars far far less than most. Do I moan about it? No. Regarding your comment on insurance. Many/most cyclists are in fact insured via their house hold cover, and those cyclists you see in groups will also be covered via their membership to their club that almost everyone of them will be a member off. Not that insurance is needed. Fact remains if cars caused as little damage as cycles they would not need to be insured either. Statistics show cars kill and typically right off cars all the time, they literally cause £1000-£10,000+ damage all the time. The most a cyclist does is scratch a door panel. The requirement for costly system to insure every person who owns a bike for the occasional scratch is madness that will never happen. And let's not mistake lack of insurance for lack of responsibility because it's not. And finally...people with race bikes don't race on public roads. They simply move in groups because it's faster, but it's not racing. Only a small fraction of riders can maintain a speed of 25mph which is lower than most roads speed limits. The day cyclists start killing in numbers even close to cars do I might start to agree with you, but considering cyclists kill between 0-2 people a year I don't think we are in any danger of that. Mushymat
  • Score: 30

7:38pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Redvee says...

Ferdy54 wrote:
What a selfish idiot that bloke is on a so called bike!!

So councils are wasting thousands of pounds making cycle lanes that a minority of people want and idiots like him don't even use them!!! The guy in the car is right, he should get on the cycle lane. Looks perfectly ok.

I assume he's one of the many colour blind cyclists around that don't know that the top light on traffic lights are red and means stop!!!

I feel sorry for the driver being persecuted by this maniac. I hope he can find some way of suing the idiot cyclist. I think the video can be reported to You Tube to be taken off there.
Have a look through ALL of CyclingMikey's videos to see if he is a disambiguous cyclist. There is no way of having this video removed from YT cause of the driver's stupidity, if it is I'm sure that Robert Lewis will find out about the streisand effect pretty quickly.
[quote][p][bold]Ferdy54[/bold] wrote: What a selfish idiot that bloke is on a so called bike!! So councils are wasting thousands of pounds making cycle lanes that a minority of people want and idiots like him don't even use them!!! The guy in the car is right, he should get on the cycle lane. Looks perfectly ok. I assume he's one of the many colour blind cyclists around that don't know that the top light on traffic lights are red and means stop!!! I feel sorry for the driver being persecuted by this maniac. I hope he can find some way of suing the idiot cyclist. I think the video can be reported to You Tube to be taken off there.[/p][/quote]Have a look through ALL of CyclingMikey's videos to see if he is a disambiguous cyclist. There is no way of having this video removed from YT cause of the driver's stupidity, if it is I'm sure that Robert Lewis will find out about the streisand effect pretty quickly. Redvee
  • Score: 12

9:14pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Dr. Nick says...

Maybe now is a good time to mention all those Uninsured Drivers out there who make -everyones- life a misery. They now feature in insurance company adverts... they make car drivers pay more and more for their insurance... Uninsured Drivers, are they hated more or less than the cyclists "who don't pay road tax"

MINUS me if you "Like Uninsured Drivers" or PLUS me if you "Like Cyclists"

Vote now!
Maybe now is a good time to mention all those Uninsured Drivers out there who make -everyones- life a misery. They now feature in insurance company adverts... they make car drivers pay more and more for their insurance... Uninsured Drivers, are they hated more or less than the cyclists "who don't pay road tax" MINUS me if you "Like Uninsured Drivers" or PLUS me if you "Like Cyclists" Vote now! Dr. Nick
  • Score: 16

4:59am Fri 28 Mar 14

Stop_Whining says...

Dr. Nick wrote:
Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Doh! "Road Tax" .. here we go again... lol

It never takes long does it :)
Touché Touché
[quote][p][bold]Dr. Nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Doh! "Road Tax" .. here we go again... lol It never takes long does it :)[/p][/quote]Touché Touché Stop_Whining
  • Score: 3

5:01am Fri 28 Mar 14

Stop_Whining says...

bnorther wrote:
Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Even if the "Road Tax" argument was valid (which if you do any form of checking isn't), would the amount you pay dictate your priority?

If so, you would have to give way to all buses and trucks. Any 4x4 that had a bigger engine would have priority over any smaller car. And if you had an electric car - forget it. Any rich Tory bigwig (assuming they pay taxes, big assumption I agree!) would have priority over anyone in a normal job, as they pay more for the upkeep.

Most road funds come out of general taxation and council tax. So anyone who pays more tax and council tax has absolute priority over anyone who does not. What a load of rubbish!
Shut up old boy and get back on your electric scooter.
[quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Even if the "Road Tax" argument was valid (which if you do any form of checking isn't), would the amount you pay dictate your priority? If so, you would have to give way to all buses and trucks. Any 4x4 that had a bigger engine would have priority over any smaller car. And if you had an electric car - forget it. Any rich Tory bigwig (assuming they pay taxes, big assumption I agree!) would have priority over anyone in a normal job, as they pay more for the upkeep. Most road funds come out of general taxation and council tax. So anyone who pays more tax and council tax has absolute priority over anyone who does not. What a load of rubbish![/p][/quote]Shut up old boy and get back on your electric scooter. Stop_Whining
  • Score: -1

6:19am Fri 28 Mar 14

Dr. Nick says...

Stop_Whining wrote:
Dr. Nick wrote:
Stop_Whining wrote:
All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.
Doh! "Road Tax" .. here we go again... lol

It never takes long does it :)
Touché Touché
I didn't realised you fenced too... where do you practice your assaults? We may have even met... I use a Estramaçon. You?
[quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr. Nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: All this pointing the finger at one another is pointless, at times the driver is at fault and at times the cyclist is at fault. On a different note it infuriates me to the bone how cyclists don't have to pay MOT or road tax. If they want to use our roads then they should be prepared to fork out like the rest of us folk.[/p][/quote]Doh! "Road Tax" .. here we go again... lol It never takes long does it :)[/p][/quote]Touché Touché[/p][/quote]I didn't realised you fenced too... where do you practice your assaults? We may have even met... I use a Estramaçon. You? Dr. Nick
  • Score: -13

9:14am Fri 28 Mar 14

Rich41 says...

If this idiot was in the cycle lane then the car wouldn't get that close to him,the car driver has done nothing wrong,at the end if the day this is another case of scumbag cyclist with too much to say
If this idiot was in the cycle lane then the car wouldn't get that close to him,the car driver has done nothing wrong,at the end if the day this is another case of scumbag cyclist with too much to say Rich41
  • Score: -17

9:47am Fri 28 Mar 14

Dr. Nick says...

Given that we know there are uninsured drivers out on our roads and given that lots of people think that no cyclist has insurance to be on the road - I think it would be equally as stupid to say no car driver has insurance. You gotta love those sweeping statements.
Given that we know there are uninsured drivers out on our roads and given that lots of people think that no cyclist has insurance to be on the road - I think it would be equally as stupid to say no car driver has insurance. You gotta love those sweeping statements. Dr. Nick
  • Score: 11

10:47am Fri 28 Mar 14

Toolbox69 says...

I don't think I hav ever seen a cyclist do wrong. Well, that's the impression they give anyway. Of course there are many decent cyclists as there are motorists, but the bad cyclists are far worse than bad motorists in my opinion - jumping red lights, riding at speed on pavements, shouting abuse when they are at fault.

In this case, I get the impression this cyclist waits for an opportunity to put up such posts, almost like a road safety campaigner from years ago who used to step out on zebra crossings just as cars were approaching (and I don't mean cross the road in a safe way).
I don't think I hav ever seen a cyclist do wrong. Well, that's the impression they give anyway. Of course there are many decent cyclists as there are motorists, but the bad cyclists are far worse than bad motorists in my opinion - jumping red lights, riding at speed on pavements, shouting abuse when they are at fault. In this case, I get the impression this cyclist waits for an opportunity to put up such posts, almost like a road safety campaigner from years ago who used to step out on zebra crossings just as cars were approaching (and I don't mean cross the road in a safe way). Toolbox69
  • Score: -14

11:09am Fri 28 Mar 14

Mushymat says...

Toolbox69 wrote:
I don't think I hav ever seen a cyclist do wrong. Well, that's the impression they give anyway. Of course there are many decent cyclists as there are motorists, but the bad cyclists are far worse than bad motorists in my opinion - jumping red lights, riding at speed on pavements, shouting abuse when they are at fault.

In this case, I get the impression this cyclist waits for an opportunity to put up such posts, almost like a road safety campaigner from years ago who used to step out on zebra crossings just as cars were approaching (and I don't mean cross the road in a safe way).
"bad cyclists are far worse than bad motorists in my opinion"

Cycles are around 50x less likely to kill, and many many more times less likely to cause serious injury when compared to driving/cars/motor vehicles.

Not opinion, its a fact. All the figures are out there, only have to look.


And all your anecdotal evidence of cyclists doing wrong apply to drivers to - speeding, tailgating, phone use, red light jumping all at speed all in a vehicle that weighs a ton.
[quote][p][bold]Toolbox69[/bold] wrote: I don't think I hav ever seen a cyclist do wrong. Well, that's the impression they give anyway. Of course there are many decent cyclists as there are motorists, but the bad cyclists are far worse than bad motorists in my opinion - jumping red lights, riding at speed on pavements, shouting abuse when they are at fault. In this case, I get the impression this cyclist waits for an opportunity to put up such posts, almost like a road safety campaigner from years ago who used to step out on zebra crossings just as cars were approaching (and I don't mean cross the road in a safe way).[/p][/quote]"bad cyclists are far worse than bad motorists in my opinion" Cycles are around 50x less likely to kill, and many many more times less likely to cause serious injury when compared to driving/cars/motor vehicles. Not opinion, its a fact. All the figures are out there, only have to look. And all your anecdotal evidence of cyclists doing wrong apply to drivers to - speeding, tailgating, phone use, red light jumping all at speed all in a vehicle that weighs a ton. Mushymat
  • Score: 13

11:13am Fri 28 Mar 14

Mushymat says...

Rich41 wrote:
If this idiot was in the cycle lane then the car wouldn't get that close to him,the car driver has done nothing wrong,at the end if the day this is another case of scumbag cyclist with too much to say
I hope that if you ever get caught on camera you will repeat that to the judge...Please say you will?
[quote][p][bold]Rich41[/bold] wrote: If this idiot was in the cycle lane then the car wouldn't get that close to him,the car driver has done nothing wrong,at the end if the day this is another case of scumbag cyclist with too much to say[/p][/quote]I hope that if you ever get caught on camera you will repeat that to the judge...Please say you will? Mushymat
  • Score: 29

11:30am Fri 28 Mar 14

Rich41 says...

Mushymat wrote:
Rich41 wrote:
If this idiot was in the cycle lane then the car wouldn't get that close to him,the car driver has done nothing wrong,at the end if the day this is another case of scumbag cyclist with too much to say
I hope that if you ever get caught on camera you will repeat that to the judge...Please say you will?
All day long
[quote][p][bold]Mushymat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich41[/bold] wrote: If this idiot was in the cycle lane then the car wouldn't get that close to him,the car driver has done nothing wrong,at the end if the day this is another case of scumbag cyclist with too much to say[/p][/quote]I hope that if you ever get caught on camera you will repeat that to the judge...Please say you will?[/p][/quote]All day long Rich41
  • Score: -12

11:47pm Fri 28 Mar 14

ADDIKS181 says...

Rich41 wrote:
If this idiot was in the cycle lane then the car wouldn't get that close to him,the car driver has done nothing wrong,at the end if the day this is another case of scumbag cyclist with too much to say
A really intelligent contribution.
[quote][p][bold]Rich41[/bold] wrote: If this idiot was in the cycle lane then the car wouldn't get that close to him,the car driver has done nothing wrong,at the end if the day this is another case of scumbag cyclist with too much to say[/p][/quote]A really intelligent contribution. ADDIKS181
  • Score: 6

8:28am Sat 29 Mar 14

Meehir says...

Rich41 wrote:
If this idiot was in the cycle lane then the car wouldn't get that close to him,the car driver has done nothing wrong,at the end if the day this is another case of scumbag cyclist with too much to say
Another idiotic, ill-thought comment. You should try reading all of the comments above. It is quite clear that the the cyclist was riding within the law and to the guidance of the Highway Code, whereas the driver was driving in a dangerous manner,against the guidance of the Highway Code. I will not call you a scumbag as I do not know you (I hope). Having said that, your comment does lead me to concur that you may have onanistic tendencies.
[quote][p][bold]Rich41[/bold] wrote: If this idiot was in the cycle lane then the car wouldn't get that close to him,the car driver has done nothing wrong,at the end if the day this is another case of scumbag cyclist with too much to say[/p][/quote]Another idiotic, ill-thought comment. You should try reading all of the comments above. It is quite clear that the the cyclist was riding within the law and to the guidance of the Highway Code, whereas the driver was driving in a dangerous manner,against the guidance of the Highway Code. I will not call you a scumbag as I do not know you (I hope). Having said that, your comment does lead me to concur that you may have onanistic tendencies. Meehir
  • Score: 6

9:37am Sat 29 Mar 14

Rich41 says...

If there was no cyclists on the road then they wouldn't get knocked off by cars and lorries,as I've said on here before we need snipers on every junction and when a cyclist jumps a red light or doesn't use a cycle lane then they should be shot it will only take a couple of them to be taken out then the rest will obey the laws of the road
If there was no cyclists on the road then they wouldn't get knocked off by cars and lorries,as I've said on here before we need snipers on every junction and when a cyclist jumps a red light or doesn't use a cycle lane then they should be shot it will only take a couple of them to be taken out then the rest will obey the laws of the road Rich41
  • Score: -8

10:50am Sat 29 Mar 14

Meehir says...

Rich41 wrote:
If there was no cyclists on the road then they wouldn't get knocked off by cars and lorries,as I've said on here before we need snipers on every junction and when a cyclist jumps a red light or doesn't use a cycle lane then they should be shot it will only take a couple of them to be taken out then the rest will obey the laws of the road
Ah. I said in my previous post, that you appeared to have onanistic tendencies.
I apologise, I was wrong. You are an onanist of the highest order. So much so, that I am surprised that you can use as keyboard.
Perhaps you are dicktating.
[quote][p][bold]Rich41[/bold] wrote: If there was no cyclists on the road then they wouldn't get knocked off by cars and lorries,as I've said on here before we need snipers on every junction and when a cyclist jumps a red light or doesn't use a cycle lane then they should be shot it will only take a couple of them to be taken out then the rest will obey the laws of the road[/p][/quote]Ah. I said in my previous post, that you appeared to have onanistic tendencies. I apologise, I was wrong. You are an onanist of the highest order. So much so, that I am surprised that you can use as keyboard. Perhaps you are dicktating. Meehir
  • Score: 4

4:08pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Chelyabinsk says...

So why isn't this "cyclist" in the designated cycle lane?
What he's riding is not a bicycle at all.

Does he do this to deliberately wind-up other road users
filming their reactions and posting them on YouTube?

Also:
In a 1.47sec video 2 London Ambulances are pictured narrowly flying by Mike the Bike at very high speed.
So why isn't this "cyclist" in the designated cycle lane? What he's riding is not a bicycle at all. Does he do this to deliberately wind-up other road users filming their reactions and posting them on YouTube? Also: In a 1.47sec video 2 London Ambulances are pictured narrowly flying by Mike the Bike at very high speed. Chelyabinsk
  • Score: -6

7:12pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Redvee says...

Mr Robert Lewis, of Southborough Lane has now put in a privacy complaint on the YT video. Will he be doing the same for this 'news' article? I doubt it. As previously mentioned the Streisand Effect will kick in now for Mr Lewis.
Mr Robert Lewis, of Southborough Lane has now put in a privacy complaint on the YT video. Will he be doing the same for this 'news' article? I doubt it. As previously mentioned the Streisand Effect will kick in now for Mr Lewis. Redvee
  • Score: 6

8:52pm Sat 29 Mar 14

ADDIKS181 says...

Chelyabinsk wrote:
So why isn't this "cyclist" in the designated cycle lane?
What he's riding is not a bicycle at all.

Does he do this to deliberately wind-up other road users
filming their reactions and posting them on YouTube?

Also:
In a 1.47sec video 2 London Ambulances are pictured narrowly flying by Mike the Bike at very high speed.
She with the inbuilt speedo. They are hardly close. Any further away and they would be on the wrong side of the road careering recklessly at oncoming traffic. You need to make your mind up.
[quote][p][bold]Chelyabinsk[/bold] wrote: So why isn't this "cyclist" in the designated cycle lane? What he's riding is not a bicycle at all. Does he do this to deliberately wind-up other road users filming their reactions and posting them on YouTube? Also: In a 1.47sec video 2 London Ambulances are pictured narrowly flying by Mike the Bike at very high speed.[/p][/quote]She with the inbuilt speedo. They are hardly close. Any further away and they would be on the wrong side of the road careering recklessly at oncoming traffic. You need to make your mind up. ADDIKS181
  • Score: -4

9:11pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Chelyabinsk says...

ADDIKS181 wrote:
Chelyabinsk wrote:
So why isn't this "cyclist" in the designated cycle lane?
What he's riding is not a bicycle at all.

Does he do this to deliberately wind-up other road users
filming their reactions and posting them on YouTube?

Also:
In a 1.47sec video 2 London Ambulances are pictured narrowly flying by Mike the Bike at very high speed.
She with the inbuilt speedo. They are hardly close. Any further away and they would be on the wrong side of the road careering recklessly at oncoming traffic. You need to make your mind up.
ADDICKS181

The NS resident troll.
[quote][p][bold]ADDIKS181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chelyabinsk[/bold] wrote: So why isn't this "cyclist" in the designated cycle lane? What he's riding is not a bicycle at all. Does he do this to deliberately wind-up other road users filming their reactions and posting them on YouTube? Also: In a 1.47sec video 2 London Ambulances are pictured narrowly flying by Mike the Bike at very high speed.[/p][/quote]She with the inbuilt speedo. They are hardly close. Any further away and they would be on the wrong side of the road careering recklessly at oncoming traffic. You need to make your mind up.[/p][/quote]ADDICKS181 The NS resident troll. Chelyabinsk
  • Score: 0

9:14pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Chelyabinsk says...

What kind of contraption is Mike the "Bike" riding?
What kind of contraption is Mike the "Bike" riding? Chelyabinsk
  • Score: -1

11:12pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Dr. Nick says...

Chelyabinsk wrote:
What kind of contraption is Mike the "Bike" riding?
Its called a recumbent bike - they are faster than your standard bike, in fact the human powered land speed record was set on one. Mike has a some aero-molding on it to make it more streamline. Recumbents are really nice bikes, very fast, so fast they make a good racing bike look slow. You can get recumbent trikes too - those are fun as you get the same lateral G-forces you get in racing cars when going round corners.

Bike come on more than just 'mountain' and 'road', recumbents are just the tip of the iceberg. Don't knock them until you have tried one :)
[quote][p][bold]Chelyabinsk[/bold] wrote: What kind of contraption is Mike the "Bike" riding?[/p][/quote]Its called a recumbent bike - they are faster than your standard bike, in fact the human powered land speed record was set on one. Mike has a some aero-molding on it to make it more streamline. Recumbents are really nice bikes, very fast, so fast they make a good racing bike look slow. You can get recumbent trikes too - those are fun as you get the same lateral G-forces you get in racing cars when going round corners. Bike come on more than just 'mountain' and 'road', recumbents are just the tip of the iceberg. Don't knock them until you have tried one :) Dr. Nick
  • Score: 4

11:24pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Dr. Nick says...

Chelyabinsk wrote:
So why isn't this "cyclist" in the designated cycle lane?
What he's riding is not a bicycle at all.

Does he do this to deliberately wind-up other road users
filming their reactions and posting them on YouTube?

Also:
In a 1.47sec video 2 London Ambulances are pictured narrowly flying by Mike the Bike at very high speed.
If you read the Highway Code it states that cyclists don't have to use the cycle lanes and are also instructed to do so when if they feel it is safe to do so. As has been pointed out earlier, these cycle lanes on this bit of road are particularly unsafe to use - therefore it is wise -not- to use them and to stay a part of the traffic.

It is a popular misconception that just because there is cycle lane, cyclists -must- or should use it; this is wrong. Cyclists are part of the 'traffic' and are safer when they stay part of the traffic and not jump in and out of it. More people are injured whilst using a cycle lane as it makes them harder to see for other road users. The highway is a shared space so we all must share it - rather simple really.
[quote][p][bold]Chelyabinsk[/bold] wrote: So why isn't this "cyclist" in the designated cycle lane? What he's riding is not a bicycle at all. Does he do this to deliberately wind-up other road users filming their reactions and posting them on YouTube? Also: In a 1.47sec video 2 London Ambulances are pictured narrowly flying by Mike the Bike at very high speed.[/p][/quote]If you read the Highway Code it states that cyclists don't have to use the cycle lanes and are also instructed to do so when if they feel it is safe to do so. As has been pointed out earlier, these cycle lanes on this bit of road are particularly unsafe to use - therefore it is wise -not- to use them and to stay a part of the traffic. It is a popular misconception that just because there is cycle lane, cyclists -must- or should use it; this is wrong. Cyclists are part of the 'traffic' and are safer when they stay part of the traffic and not jump in and out of it. More people are injured whilst using a cycle lane as it makes them harder to see for other road users. The highway is a shared space so we all must share it - rather simple really. Dr. Nick
  • Score: 4

3:30pm Mon 31 Mar 14

marc8888 says...

A lot said above, but as a keen driver and cyclist.... recumbent bikes are crazy things to use on the open road with other vehicles, flag or no flag. I hate driving near them and if I rode one, I would be terrified near trucks and buses as you lose all the visibility advantages (in both directions) of conventional bikes . And IMHO, riding one makes you look like a bit of a pillock, especially with a flag.
A lot said above, but as a keen driver and cyclist.... recumbent bikes are crazy things to use on the open road with other vehicles, flag or no flag. I hate driving near them and if I rode one, I would be terrified near trucks and buses as you lose all the visibility advantages (in both directions) of conventional bikes . And IMHO, riding one makes you look like a bit of a pillock, especially with a flag. marc8888
  • Score: -2

7:48pm Mon 31 Mar 14

kevint1972 says...

Cyclists are one of the growing number of groups in this country that consider themselves Victims and are on permanent lookout for any offence against them. I don't drive myself but as a pedestrian I find them easily the most selfish and inconsiderate road users - the only ones who will ignore red lights, drive through pedestrian crossings that are in use and mount the pavement whenever they feel like it. Criticise them though and they will cry like spoiled children.
Cyclists are one of the growing number of groups in this country that consider themselves Victims and are on permanent lookout for any offence against them. I don't drive myself but as a pedestrian I find them easily the most selfish and inconsiderate road users - the only ones who will ignore red lights, drive through pedestrian crossings that are in use and mount the pavement whenever they feel like it. Criticise them though and they will cry like spoiled children. kevint1972
  • Score: -6

8:46pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Dr. Nick says...

marc8888 wrote:
A lot said above, but as a keen driver and cyclist.... recumbent bikes are crazy things to use on the open road with other vehicles, flag or no flag. I hate driving near them and if I rode one, I would be terrified near trucks and buses as you lose all the visibility advantages (in both directions) of conventional bikes . And IMHO, riding one makes you look like a bit of a pillock, especially with a flag.
Yes, the same effect cars like Morgans, Ferraris, Lamborghini and Porsche 911s have on people when you drive them in city traffic (generally laughter), but then who are we really to criticise other peoples choice in mode of transport - there is enough room for all on our roads in the UK; some people (car drivers and cyclists included) just need to be a little more careful and consider other road users when using them. After all we have a law which states we must drive/ride with due care and attention with consideration for other road users (that includes pedestrians).
[quote][p][bold]marc8888[/bold] wrote: A lot said above, but as a keen driver and cyclist.... recumbent bikes are crazy things to use on the open road with other vehicles, flag or no flag. I hate driving near them and if I rode one, I would be terrified near trucks and buses as you lose all the visibility advantages (in both directions) of conventional bikes . And IMHO, riding one makes you look like a bit of a pillock, especially with a flag.[/p][/quote]Yes, the same effect cars like Morgans, Ferraris, Lamborghini and Porsche 911s have on people when you drive them in city traffic (generally laughter), but then who are we really to criticise other peoples choice in mode of transport - there is enough room for all on our roads in the UK; some people (car drivers and cyclists included) just need to be a little more careful and consider other road users when using them. After all we have a law which states we must drive/ride with due care and attention with consideration for other road users (that includes pedestrians). Dr. Nick
  • Score: 3

8:47pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Dr. Nick says...

kevint1972 wrote:
Cyclists are one of the growing number of groups in this country that consider themselves Victims and are on permanent lookout for any offence against them. I don't drive myself but as a pedestrian I find them easily the most selfish and inconsiderate road users - the only ones who will ignore red lights, drive through pedestrian crossings that are in use and mount the pavement whenever they feel like it. Criticise them though and they will cry like spoiled children.
lol, in some ways you are so right.
[quote][p][bold]kevint1972[/bold] wrote: Cyclists are one of the growing number of groups in this country that consider themselves Victims and are on permanent lookout for any offence against them. I don't drive myself but as a pedestrian I find them easily the most selfish and inconsiderate road users - the only ones who will ignore red lights, drive through pedestrian crossings that are in use and mount the pavement whenever they feel like it. Criticise them though and they will cry like spoiled children.[/p][/quote]lol, in some ways you are so right. Dr. Nick
  • Score: 1

8:58am Tue 1 Apr 14

keith.jafrato@btconnect.com says...

In defence of the cyclists and to some extent the driver - these cycle lane which is on the pavement along Bromley common is a death trap and as a regular cyclist I never USE IT.
Firstly its on the pavement and pedestrians regularly don't realise its there an get in the way and its up and down continuously so you naturally drift out to the road. Either clearly make a separate curb type cycle lane or make the road wider - the pavement here is about 3 - 4 meters wide!!
In defence of the cyclists and to some extent the driver - these cycle lane which is on the pavement along Bromley common is a death trap and as a regular cyclist I never USE IT. Firstly its on the pavement and pedestrians regularly don't realise its there an get in the way and its up and down continuously so you naturally drift out to the road. Either clearly make a separate curb type cycle lane or make the road wider - the pavement here is about 3 - 4 meters wide!! keith.jafrato@btconnect.com
  • Score: 12

10:34am Thu 3 Apr 14

Cycling_Mikey says...

keith.jafrato@btconn
ect.com
wrote:
In defence of the cyclists and to some extent the driver - these cycle lane which is on the pavement along Bromley common is a death trap and as a regular cyclist I never USE IT.
Firstly its on the pavement and pedestrians regularly don't realise its there an get in the way and its up and down continuously so you naturally drift out to the road. Either clearly make a separate curb type cycle lane or make the road wider - the pavement here is about 3 - 4 meters wide!!
Thanks! I thought I'd go and ride this cycle path and show just how rubbish it is:

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=mqg33GJ0
_xE

It takes just over two minutes longer than the ride in the video with Robert Lewis. This implies to me that he might think that two seconds of waiting to safely pass me after a traffic island is unacceptable to him, and it's fine to force me to wait two minutes, and to accept considerably more danger on the cycle path.
[quote][p][bold]keith.jafrato@btconn ect.com[/bold] wrote: In defence of the cyclists and to some extent the driver - these cycle lane which is on the pavement along Bromley common is a death trap and as a regular cyclist I never USE IT. Firstly its on the pavement and pedestrians regularly don't realise its there an get in the way and its up and down continuously so you naturally drift out to the road. Either clearly make a separate curb type cycle lane or make the road wider - the pavement here is about 3 - 4 meters wide!![/p][/quote]Thanks! I thought I'd go and ride this cycle path and show just how rubbish it is: https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=mqg33GJ0 _xE It takes just over two minutes longer than the ride in the video with Robert Lewis. This implies to me that he might think that two seconds of waiting to safely pass me after a traffic island is unacceptable to him, and it's fine to force me to wait two minutes, and to accept considerably more danger on the cycle path. Cycling_Mikey
  • Score: 14

3:39pm Fri 11 Apr 14

BeckenhamCloud9 says...

Saw an interesting article

http://home.bt.com/l
ifestyle/motoring/mo
toringnews/cyclists-
bad-behaviour-caught
-on-camera-video-113
63891666224

But of course cyclists never break laws, and it's always the drivers fault
Saw an interesting article http://home.bt.com/l ifestyle/motoring/mo toringnews/cyclists- bad-behaviour-caught -on-camera-video-113 63891666224 But of course cyclists never break laws, and it's always the drivers fault BeckenhamCloud9
  • Score: -1

3:43pm Sat 19 Apr 14

pedestrianuk says...

the wall wrote:
bnorther wrote:
the wall wrote:
Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'.

It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.
I'm interested on which videos his he breaking the rules?
905 to pick from, so knock yourself out.

This is one of them. See if you can spot the rules broken?

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=fAKpooFEQ

lE

There is also the 'do as I say not as I do' attitude. In one of the videos there is a warning about using mobile phones/ concentrating on two things at once. Yet here with have mikey doing two things at once. One rule for one and one for another.

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=EoeOoJAiV

bs


The road is a share space.
Yes like a video where 'CyclingMikey', can be clearly doing something dangerouys and illegal by crossing the lines onto on coming traffic at 10 seconds and around 40 seconds

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=hsEXkVaM
nDc&feature=youtu.be


In other words, don't complain about drivers doing something dangerous and illegal when your own video has caught you out doing something dangerous and illegal.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'. It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.[/p][/quote]I'm interested on which videos his he breaking the rules?[/p][/quote]905 to pick from, so knock yourself out. This is one of them. See if you can spot the rules broken? http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=fAKpooFEQ lE There is also the 'do as I say not as I do' attitude. In one of the videos there is a warning about using mobile phones/ concentrating on two things at once. Yet here with have mikey doing two things at once. One rule for one and one for another. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=EoeOoJAiV bs The road is a share space.[/p][/quote]Yes like a video where 'CyclingMikey', can be clearly doing something dangerouys and illegal by crossing the lines onto on coming traffic at 10 seconds and around 40 seconds https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=hsEXkVaM nDc&feature=youtu.be In other words, don't complain about drivers doing something dangerous and illegal when your own video has caught you out doing something dangerous and illegal. pedestrianuk
  • Score: -9

3:44pm Sat 19 Apr 14

pedestrianuk says...

bnorther wrote:
the wall wrote:
Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'.

It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.
I'm interested on which videos his he breaking the rules?
For starters:

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=hsEXkVaM
nDc&feature=youtu.be
[quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: Funny how this mikey likes to pull up other people on the rules of the road, but in some of his videos he is breaking the rules. Also in one of them says nothing to a bloke cycling on the pavement. Infact shouts out 'give it some wellie'. It appears he maybe looking to put himself in some of these situations to get something interesting to film. Maybe mikey failed the exam to become a Policeman and feels he needs to Police the roads. He's just as bad a road user as some of the people he is filming.[/p][/quote]I'm interested on which videos his he breaking the rules?[/p][/quote]For starters: https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=hsEXkVaM nDc&feature=youtu.be pedestrianuk
  • Score: -8

3:49pm Sat 19 Apr 14

pedestrianuk says...

It seems those who are defending cyclingmikey looked passed him acting in a dangerous and illegal manner like the following:

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=hsEXkVaM
nDc&feature=youtu.be
It seems those who are defending cyclingmikey looked passed him acting in a dangerous and illegal manner like the following: https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=hsEXkVaM nDc&feature=youtu.be pedestrianuk
  • Score: -8

3:51pm Sat 19 Apr 14

pedestrianuk says...

pedestrianuk wrote:
It seems those who are defending cyclingmikey looked passed him acting in a dangerous and illegal manner like the following:

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=hsEXkVaM

nDc&feature=yout
u.be
What I meant to say, those defending mikey looked pass him.
[quote][p][bold]pedestrianuk[/bold] wrote: It seems those who are defending cyclingmikey looked passed him acting in a dangerous and illegal manner like the following: https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=hsEXkVaM nDc&feature=yout u.be[/p][/quote]What I meant to say, those defending mikey looked pass him. pedestrianuk
  • Score: -7

10:15am Mon 21 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

Please look at this video and ignore the bike and car... then look at the "cycle track"

At every junction it disappears or stops before the junction, making progress impossible

On a number of occasions it narrows to a ridiculous width as it slaloms around lampposts and street furniture

At 0:17 it disappears without notice or warning

Then there is a section of about 3 feet in length (not even big enough for a bicycle)

Then as a real challenge you are expected to negotiate a bus stop. (0\;24)

I for one would not use this poor excuse for a cycle facility and the dangers it represents to both cyclists and pedestrians
Please look at this video and ignore the bike and car... then look at the "cycle track" At every junction it disappears or stops before the junction, making progress impossible On a number of occasions it narrows to a ridiculous width as it slaloms around lampposts and street furniture At 0:17 it disappears without notice or warning Then there is a section of about 3 feet in length (not even big enough for a bicycle) Then as a real challenge you are expected to negotiate a bus stop. (0\;24) I for one would not use this poor excuse for a cycle facility and the dangers it represents to both cyclists and pedestrians DanWeston
  • Score: 8

6:22pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Cycling_Mikey says...

pedestrianuk wrote:
It seems those who are defending cyclingmikey looked passed him acting in a dangerous and illegal manner like the following:

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=hsEXkVaM

nDc&feature=yout
u.be
I think you're a little bit confused and perhaps haven't reviewed the highway code for many years. Nothing dangerous nor illegal about my riding in that video. It's safe careful and perfectly normal filtering.
[quote][p][bold]pedestrianuk[/bold] wrote: It seems those who are defending cyclingmikey looked passed him acting in a dangerous and illegal manner like the following: https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=hsEXkVaM nDc&feature=yout u.be[/p][/quote]I think you're a little bit confused and perhaps haven't reviewed the highway code for many years. Nothing dangerous nor illegal about my riding in that video. It's safe careful and perfectly normal filtering. Cycling_Mikey
  • Score: 8

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